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Eels Next Coach

Who will be Eels Next Coach

  • Hannay

    Votes: 30 29.4%
  • Hollbrook

    Votes: 12 11.8%
  • Ryles

    Votes: 33 32.4%
  • Morris

    Votes: 5 4.9%
  • Cheika

    Votes: 22 21.6%

  • Total voters
    102
  • Poll closed .

Gazzamatta

Coach
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15,647
Id love to get Wallace in our system. As a player he was so damn tough. Reminded me a lot of Hasler. Hes probably learnt much from Cleary. I believe hes their current D coach. Appears to have a lot of input in the coach's box.
I agree hes probably not ready as yet for the top gig but we need to develop a pathway for coach's as well as players. Another who could be a strong assistant is Rankin whos currently in charge of our Fleggers. We need a head coach who can delegate and develop. Again this seems to fall into Cheikas wheelhouse.
 

Avenger

Immortal
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34,041
So Madge has ruled himself out to concentrate on the Blues, tfft
And as an Eels supporting Queenslander I’ve got a smile from ear to ear :D TBH nothing against Madge but I feel he’d be fairly similar to BA and it’s time for something a little different.
Don’t forget this is the same coach who wanted to bring in a snake to a dressing room and demonstrate how it eats a mouse.

The guy is a f**king Neanderthal and we definitely dodged a bullet.
 

Delboy

First Grade
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7,551
Id love to get Wallace in our system. As a player he was so damn tough. Reminded me a lot of Hasler. Hes probably learnt much from Cleary. I believe hes their current D coach. Appears to have a lot of input in the coach's box.
I agree hes probably not ready as yet for the top gig but we need to develop a pathway for coach's as well as players. Another who could be a strong assistant is Rankin whos currently in charge of our Fleggers. We need a head coach who can delegate and develop. Again this seems to fall into Cheikas wheelhouse.
The Alan Jones union to league coach wasn’t a spectacular outcome, not sure even Cheika can make the jump into a full time position without a deep background in league. It’s a different animal to yawnion, would be interesting but the club needs a younger coach in touch with the game currently.
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
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91,401
Do you think it's possible that their tactics don't evolve as fast and other coaches work them out and expose them quicker.
No, I think if a bunch of deadshits on the internet can see what’s going on, so can the coaches.

As for how quickly their tactics evolve, it is limited by the roster. We play a heavy offloading style because it suits our squad. Our defence collapses when we don’t control the ball because we lack toilers in the pack. Tactics don’t fix that. ‘Tactics’ is the lazy fan’s excuse for every loss, so they can blame one scapegoat and hope everything will be better when he’s sacked.
Or that players become a little stale/comfortable hearing the same voice and ideas?
It’s possible for some players, but really, if this was a problem Bellamy wouldn’t still be at the Storm.
I would consider these plausible. It is why the game has evolved. Other teams will then try and copy and recruit players to suit the winning style. But sometimes a new side will develop a better formula so by the time you master that style successfully other sides have become to used to it and it no longer is a winning formula.
Obviously. Look how the Panthers went from shit to great when the NRL decided to make the game faster during Covid. Shame Cleary wasn’t such an innovator before Covid.
 

King-Gutho94

Coach
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15,546
Don’t forget this is the same coach who wanted to bring in a snake to a dressing room and demonstrate how it eats a mouse.

The guy is a f**king Neanderthal and we definitely dodged a bullet.
He took a baseball bat one night to brookie oval and started bashing the wall with it when speaking to the players at halftime at Souths.

Your right he sounds like a nutcase.

His intensity has a shelf life.

3 weeks at origin would be enough to deal with him. Instead of 50 weeks of the year in clubland.
 

Gazzamatta

Coach
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15,647
The Alan Jones union to league coach wasn’t a spectacular outcome, not sure even Cheika can make the jump into a full time position without a deep background in league. It’s a different animal to yawnion, would be interesting but the club needs a younger coach in touch with the game currently.
Not against any option but I wasnt keen on Madge
Im disappointed Holbrook isnt in the mix. Whoever, fingers crossed they get it right.
 

Tmars

Juniors
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101
I think Cheika would be great and would love the board to take a risk but I'm convinced Ryles will be given the job.
A massive push on the other site for McDermott but I just don't see them giving it to a guy who was sacked from Leeds and has had less time coaching in the nrl than Ryles.
 

Pazza

First Grade
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9,793
It's not about the Xs and the Os... it's about the Jimmy's and the Joe's

No matter who we pick, the board and CEO need to know the job is only half done. Gotta get the new coach as much talent on the roster and waiting in the wings as possible.
 

King-Gutho94

Coach
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15,546
I think Cheika would be great and would love the board to take a risk but I'm convinced Ryles will be given the job.
A massive push on the other site for McDermott but I just don't see them giving it to a guy who was sacked from Leeds and has had less time coaching in the nrl than Ryles.
The other site are clueless.

They couldn't spot a gigantic pimple if it was staring them in the face.

I see Ryles as a bigger risk then cheika.

You can learn all you like under Bellamy and Robbo but not many coaches have left Bellamy and Storm and replicated the success because Bellamy and Ponissei are still in Melbourne.

There the 2 key cogs that have them running like a well oiled wresting machine.
 

Cloeel

Juniors
Messages
859
Commercially for the club Cheika would be huge.

With his CV and network around the world. He is a household name.

Tbh the biggest decision to make out of all this is, if we do go the Cheika route - who will his assistants be?

If we can get proven/capable assistants we would be silly to pass up on Cheika.
 

King-Gutho94

Coach
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15,546
Going off that list.

There isn't much success stories

Madge is it and BA would be 2nd it's quite scary actually and reinforces my view.

Players and coaches don't necessarily translate success at other clubs because Melbourne is just a well built machine that is hard to replicate elsewhere. Especially if that's the coaches philosophy.

Dean Pay - Failed at the Bulldogs didn't really get close to the finals was probably hard done by. But he did have 3 years to turn things around.

Steve Kearney - Failed at the warriors and took Parramatta to there 1st spoon in 40 years.

Anthony Seibold - Took Brisbane to a wooden spoon and jury is out for his manly stint.

Adam O'Brien - An inferior version of BA won't survive the next 18 months.

Kevin Walters - Has the benefit of coaching a powerhouse in the Broncos and players have stated Adam Reynolds is the main driver at training at coaching. Players don't just let they slip accidentally on podcasts.

Michael Maguire - Won a comp at Souths with a gold plated roster built for him by Russell and Richo. Got punted 3 years after winning a comp and reinforced at the Tigers he has a shelf life and can't develop talent.
 

King-Gutho94

Coach
Messages
15,546
If you want to understand the revolution Michael Maguire is bringing to the Wests Tigers — and why dropping club legends Benji Marshall and Chris Lawrence is just the start of it — you need to go back to the dressing-rooms at Brookvale Oval a few years ago.

Maguire, who was coaching South Sydney, wanted his team to belt the Sea Eagles into the middle of next week. To underline his point, he whipped out a baseball bat and started bashing up the dressing-room.

Swiiiiiing batter, batter, swing!

Manly fired in a bill for the repairs a few days later.

Then there's the story about "roadkill". According to his former players, Maguire would identify an opposition forward who needed to be stopped, and then a photo of the player's head would appear on the walls of the rooms with the word "roadkill" written under it.

The forward pack's job was to run him over. Turn him into roadkill, figuratively speaking of course.

Maguire was apparently so big on imagery there's an unconfirmed story he wanted to bring a boa constrictor into the rooms before one match. Strangle the opposition like a snake crushing a possum before devouring it.

The idea was rejected because, firstly, Sam Burgess was petrified of snakes and, secondly, BECAUSE IT WAS A SNAKE.

 

Noise

Coach
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18,176
If you want to understand the revolution Michael Maguire is bringing to the Wests Tigers — and why dropping club legends Benji Marshall and Chris Lawrence is just the start of it — you need to go back to the dressing-rooms at Brookvale Oval a few years ago.

Maguire, who was coaching South Sydney, wanted his team to belt the Sea Eagles into the middle of next week. To underline his point, he whipped out a baseball bat and started bashing up the dressing-room.

Swiiiiiing batter, batter, swing!

Manly fired in a bill for the repairs a few days later.

Then there's the story about "roadkill". According to his former players, Maguire would identify an opposition forward who needed to be stopped, and then a photo of the player's head would appear on the walls of the rooms with the word "roadkill" written under it.

The forward pack's job was to run him over. Turn him into roadkill, figuratively speaking of course.

Maguire was apparently so big on imagery there's an unconfirmed story he wanted to bring a boa constrictor into the rooms before one match. Strangle the opposition like a snake crushing a possum before devouring it.

The idea was rejected because, firstly, Sam Burgess was petrified of snakes and, secondly, BECAUSE IT WAS A SNAKE.

Yep his whole coaching philosophy is on feelings and emotion. There’s only so long before it wears thin.
 

Cloeel

Juniors
Messages
859
If you want to understand the revolution Michael Maguire is bringing to the Wests Tigers — and why dropping club legends Benji Marshall and Chris Lawrence is just the start of it — you need to go back to the dressing-rooms at Brookvale Oval a few years ago.

Maguire, who was coaching South Sydney, wanted his team to belt the Sea Eagles into the middle of next week. To underline his point, he whipped out a baseball bat and started bashing up the dressing-room.

Swiiiiiing batter, batter, swing!

Manly fired in a bill for the repairs a few days later.

Then there's the story about "roadkill". According to his former players, Maguire would identify an opposition forward who needed to be stopped, and then a photo of the player's head would appear on the walls of the rooms with the word "roadkill" written under it.

The forward pack's job was to run him over. Turn him into roadkill, figuratively speaking of course.

Maguire was apparently so big on imagery there's an unconfirmed story he wanted to bring a boa constrictor into the rooms before one match. Strangle the opposition like a snake crushing a possum before devouring it.

The idea was rejected because, firstly, Sam Burgess was petrified of snakes and, secondly, BECAUSE IT WAS A SNAKE.



People love to overcomplicate the role of a head coach.

Like anything in the life the key is in mastering the fundamentals through consistency - not looking for outrageous silver bullets.

If you are incapable of doing boring things day in day out (Like mid season Fiji holidays) - head coach of an NRL side is not for you.
 

Tmars

Juniors
Messages
101
That article is 2 years old. And most of those coaches turned out to be average to well below average head coaches.
Yep that's true.
So what's it all mean?
Bellemy will go down in the top 3 coaches of all time and his assistants have struggled to get success.
Well they are all different personalities who coached teams with different rosters, so we can't really compare them to Belly.
Not every coach gets to coach Smith, Slater, Inglis, Cronk and Munster in a roster.
Belly also by the way could not coach state of origin with any success (9 games, 7 loses)
The law of averages say a Storm assistant will have success as a head coach soon so maybe it will be Ryles.
 

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