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Eels release Kieran Foran

ash411

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I have been keeping an eye on this one. He appears to have now deleted everything up to and including 2011. He is stopping for a short lunch break and will then get back into it.

What happened to trigger it? I must have missed something...
 

Poupou Escobar

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Avenger accidentally posted information about Nick Politis signing Mitch Moses. He intended it to go in a private message.
 

Kornstar

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That's not what I meant, Hayne had to prove himself in training camps and exhibition games to make the squad but it definitely gave him the chance to sell/market himself as the best player in the game by winning that award for a second time.

Hayne left at an opportune for himself when his star was the brightest and certainly not for the club.

To be fair it was probably the absolute latest he could have left it to give it a crack.

Also I would suggest that the workouts he did in Seattle when he went over there would have been the trigger because he scored very well and probably had some of the guys who have a clue over there tell him he had a great chance, 2 time Dally M medal winner or not.

He never used that as a marketing tool either, the Australian and American media did, never him. He gave up everything for a very slim chance, he just happened to work hard enough and beat the odds.

The only thing that confuses me is that all the talk out of the 49ers was that he had a real shot at making the roster again and he has left it. I do get the Olympic dream angle but it still seems odd to me.

Maybe it's just that I don't like Union so I don't know why anyone would want to play it :lol:
 

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To be fair it was probably the absolute latest he could have left it to give it a crack.

Also I would suggest that the workouts he did in Seattle when he went over there would have been the trigger because he scored very well and probably had some of the guys who have a clue over there tell him he had a great chance, 2 time Dally M medal winner or not.

He never used that as a marketing tool either, the Australian and American media did, never him. He gave up everything for a very slim chance, he just happened to work hard enough and beat the odds.

The only thing that confuses me is that all the talk out of the 49ers was that he had a real shot at making the roster again and he has left it. I do get the Olympic dream angle but it still seems odd to me.

Maybe it's just that I don't like Union so I don't know why anyone would want to play it :lol:

Just my opinion of course but I reckon it could quite simply have come down to boredom... he proved to himself he was good enough to make it. But when you come from a sport where you are the focus throughout the entire game, you get your hands on the ball and are involved non stop compared to the role he was playing in NFL, then an athlete with the ego, for wont of a better word, like Hayne's I think would have found it hard to limit himself to a couple of runs per game etc

Different if you grow up in that country and play it your whole life, you don't know any different and more inclined to accept your role as part of the set up etc

Hayne would know that he ain't getting any younger and that his body is just about in peak physical shape right now and want s to explore the option of making the most of that right now rather than sitting on the sideline for 3 and half hours on game day seeing approximately 53 secinds of on field action in the NFL...

That's my take anyway...
 
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Just my opinion of course but I reckon it could quite simply have come down to boredom... he proved to himself he was good enough to make it. But when you come from a sport where you are the focus throughout the entire game, you get your hands on the ball and are involved non stop compared to the role he was playing in NFL, then an athlete with the ego, for wont of a better word, like Hayne's I think would have found it hard to limit himself to a couple of runs per game etc

Different if you grow up in that country and play it your whole life, you don't know any different and more inclined to accept your role as part of the set up etc

Hayne would know that he ain't getting any younger and that his body is just about in peak physical shape right now and want s to explore the option of making the most of that right now rather than sitting on the sideline for 3 and half hours on game day seeing approximately 53 secinds of on field action in the NFL...

That's my take anyway...

and in this case I think you might not be incorrect.
 

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When Kieran Foran eventually tells the story of his battle with depression, which resulted in his prescription drug overdose, it will leave the sporting world gobsmacked. But he has to do it when he is ready and on his terms.
He has to be in the right place mentally, and while he is moving towards a better place, he is not there yet. He is dealing with flak and innuendo, and there are some tough days ahead.
What Foran didn't need were the heartless and irresponsible actions of a media organisation, which sank to a new low after the Eels game on Monday night.

The Eels had asked media to respect Foran as he recovers. The television networks struck a deal to allow Parramatta to film his first training session back with the club and distribute the vision for everyone to use to ease Foran in. Despite one network showing up, no one shot a frame of footage.
However, on Monday night things got rugged for Foran when a network tried to pull a swifty post-match. They sent young reporters to speak to Foran as he walked to his car after the game. The first one fronted him with a mobile phone, under the guise he wanted a selfie. It was a tactic to allow a cameraman, who was lagging behind in the pursuit of Foran, to get in position.
At first, Foran said no to the selfie request with a "not tonight mate", but then he agreed to pose for a photo. At that point, the punter who asked for the selfie turned "journalist" and started videoing the encounter. Then he stared asking questions of Foran. At that point, the cameraman came rushing towards Foran's car. Foran twigged that he had been set up and got out of there.
To say that his blood was boiling is an understatement.
Parramatta's media people quickly found out about it. It is thought Foran called them to report the matter. The Eels complained to the network, who did a quick backtrack. An apology was sent to the Eels from the head of sport but, as far as the club and Foran are concerned, the damage is done.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...or-network-20160528-gp68f0.html#ixzz4At7ttklu

F**king disgraceful.

Just realised how old the article is (May 28), but I hadn't seen it yet, and thought I'd share my outrage, sorry if it had been posted already.
 

Chipmunk

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To be honest, and unfortunately, I think Foran and Parra continuing together is just going to be one long waste of time in the long run. The media is going to continue to hound Foran and continue to hound the Club on many different fronts and I don't see this ending at all well for either party.
 

Ratchy

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To be fair it was probably the absolute latest he could have left it to give it a crack.

Also I would suggest that the workouts he did in Seattle when he went over there would have been the trigger because he scored very well and probably had some of the guys who have a clue over there tell him he had a great chance, 2 time Dally M medal winner or not.

He never used that as a marketing tool either, the Australian and American media did, never him. He gave up everything for a very slim chance, he just happened to work hard enough and beat the odds.

The only thing that confuses me is that all the talk out of the 49ers was that he had a real shot at making the roster again and he has left it. I do get the Olympic dream angle but it still seems odd to me.

Maybe it's just that I don't like Union so I don't know why anyone would want to play it :lol:

The 49'ers drafted another RB in this years draft not to mention there's 4 running backs in their current 90 squad picked in front of him last season. He would've been lucky to be 4 or 5 in the depth chart which generally is a cut. At best Hayne would've been the punt returner and franchises generally don't pick players who can just one thing. Hayne achieved alot but honestly he was long odds to make the 53 man squad so he ran.

And no Hayne didn't personally use it as a marketing tool in the media but your kidding yourself if you don't think his representatives didn't.
 

Kornstar

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The 49'ers drafted another RB in this years draft not to mention there's 4 running backs in their current 90 squad picked in front of him last season. He would've been lucky to be 4 or 5 in the depth chart which generally is a cut. At best Hayne would've been the punt returner and franchises generally don't pick players who can just one thing. Hayne achieved alot but honestly he was long odds to make the 53 man squad so he ran.

And no Hayne didn't personally use it as a marketing tool in the media but your kidding yourself if you don't think his representatives didn't.

They drafted a RB last year too.

I don't think it was any secret that he would be a returner if he made the squad and on the RB depth chart. If they thought he could gain them an advantage in returning and anywhere on special teams and used on package plays during snaps then they absolutely would have him on the 53 man roster. Teams do that more than is reported.

He achieved the seemingly un-achievable but it wouldn't surprise me if he realised he may make that roster (and the talk was he had a really good shot) but it wasn't going to be at a position he preferred it would be a position that didn't give him much game time at all. So he found a new opportunity to possibly gain an Olympic medal.

His representatives would be sacked if they weren't looking after their client, so of course they would have used it, but it wasn't the reason he left and the reason he made it. That's all I was saying.
 

Dibs

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The 49'ers drafted another RB in this years draft not to mention there's 4 running backs in their current 90 squad picked in front of him last season. He would've been lucky to be 4 or 5 in the depth chart which generally is a cut. At best Hayne would've been the punt returner and franchises generally don't pick players who can just one thing. Hayne achieved alot but honestly he was long odds to make the 53 man squad so he ran.

And no Hayne didn't personally use it as a marketing tool in the media but your kidding yourself if you don't think his representatives didn't.

What if you don't think his representatives did?
 

Avenger

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For Kieran's and our sake it is good news but it's creepy that even this leaked to the media. However with social media these days nothing can be a secret for too long.
 

Dibs

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Look, Foran played for manly once.

Some people think that means he, his family, and all of his pets are fair game.

Sounds like it. Can't see how this is good news. I'm sure if the only reason he was allowed back in the family home is due to his son's ill health then he would rather not be back in the home
 

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