Eels Salary Cap MK II

[Avenger]

Hindmarsh is a f**kwit Delboy. Just a clown that nobody takes seriously. So sad but he is a bit like Ray Price. Champion player but a complete dick in retirement.

 

[hineyrulz]

Couple of things

DA was appointed to ensure that the cap was in order, and has been known to tell people it's all in order

Schubert was then appointed to assist in ensuring there were no problems

Between them I understand that they receive between $450k/$500k pa, that's certainly a shed load more than the board in total, how about they get asked what the fc*k is going on and what they are doing

Seeing the team in the sheds after the game, my wife said it's heartbreaking to penalise them, also radio news made the point that the Dogs had 4 tries disallowed, FMD Raaaay even has a say in how news is broadcast

To add to this rant, Raaay and Nathan will be pleased, they got what they wanted, never been so disappointed in someone from the club, that on top of his disdain for Hayne just about does it for me

Nathan as in Hindy????? How will he be pleased if we lose points???

 

[The EELiminator]

Hindmarsh is a f**kwit Delboy. Just a clown that nobody takes seriously.

his IQ is dropping from being around those bellends matty johns and fletch on a regular basis quit before you become a window washer hindy

 

[Avenger]

his IQ is dropping from being around those bellends matty johns and fletch on a regular basis quit before you become a window washer hindy

Which is exactly what Sterlo did when he saw the expiry date on Vautin's footy show. Sterlo however is brighter than Hindy and despises Paul Kent which makes him instantly a top bloke.

 

[Delboy]

Nathan as in Hindy????? How will he be pleased if we lose points???

Hiney, on the Johns show he stated that they should lose enough points not to have a chance of making the finals. How's that for loyalty and a club stalwart, clown mode and paybcheck rules for him.

 

[strider]

Hiney, on the Johns show he stated that they should lose enough points not to have a chance of making the finals. How's that for loyalty and a club stalwart, clown mode and paybcheck rules for him.

He also said he hopes they dont lose points ... people choose to gloss over that

I am less and less a hindmarsh fan, but he's not the devil either

 

[hineyrulz]

Hiney, on the Johns show he stated that they should lose enough points not to have a chance of making the finals. How's that for loyalty and a club stalwart, clown mode and paybcheck rules for him.

He said if they have been found guilty of cheating, where does that mean he is pleased if we lose points??? He's been one of the few people that have been outspoken at what the Storm did against us so maybe he doesn't want to look like a hypocrite???

I'm disappointed he didn't come out and support the club more, and he makes a dick out of himself on that show but are you honestly comparing him to Raaaaaaaay??? Gee whiz.

 

[TheParraboy]

Hiney, on the Johns show he stated that they should lose enough points not to have a chance of making the finals. How's that for loyalty and a club stalwart, clown mode and paybcheck rules for him.

He actually said that the NRL would want us to lose enough points so we don't make the 8, otherwise it will be embarrassing for them

I don't ever remember him saying he wants us to miss the 8

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Any more then 4 is a disgrace for a cap compliant team, Warriors only lost 4 and they were 500k over when the cap was about half of what it is now.

We don't know that we are actually cap compliant, because undisclosed payments / deals initiated in early years can affect this year's cap. But regardless, if a club has been knowingly involved in making undisclosed payments to players outside the cap, I don't see any reason why there should be a limit on the points penalty applicable, or when that penalty is imposed. That is serious stuff, and there has to be a serious deterrent against that sort of behaviour. If we've done that we'll cop it. If we haven't, great.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

If we are a 50% chance barrt if losing points how do you explain the sharks 1.25 to finish top 4 and parra 9-1.
Prior to this week bith teams where even to win comp.Heck they scored less tries to penrith who lost there half and centre for most the game and played at home.
But its a 36-1 swing. If it was 50% you would see idds of about 1.80 Max.
They would not take the risk on Foran moving the market that much. Offer silly odds just incase Foran isnt better? Wtf woul they bother risk losing huge dollars

I'm not sure that you fully understand the maths behind this mate. Where does the 36-1 swing thing come from?


Let's say a team is paying $4 to make the Top 4. Ignoring the bookie's margin that equates to a probability of making the top 4 of 25% (1 / dividend). If something happens and the market then factors in a 50% chance that the team loses all their points, that makes the team 12.5% chance of making the top 4. That implies a dividend of $8 (7/1 odds). Which isn't too far off what we've seen.

The big issue here is the timing of the price adjustment, but again....that also coincides with the Foran news.

 

[strider]

So do you think they will see that we still beat a top 8 team despite being without foran and bring the odds back in? ... im betting not

I reckon they have probably been tipped off .... raaay has apparently been tipped off, avenger has a contact, im sure plenty of others have been tipped off too .... do we honestly think the nrl is squeaky clean with no one who might leak a bit of info? They are just humans like everyone else

 

[84 Baby]

Guys we all know the real reason for the market blowout.

Super Morgs to scum

 

[strider]

We don't know that we are actually cap compliant, because undisclosed payments / deals initiated in early years can affect this year's cap. But regardless, if a club has been knowingly involved in making undisclosed payments to players outside the cap, I don't see any reason why there should be a limit on the points penalty applicable, or when that penalty is imposed. That is serious stuff, and there has to be a serious deterrent against that sort of behaviour. If we've done that we'll cop it. If we haven't, great.

Yeah i dont really get why everyone uses the past as a justification of what we should get.

We dont yet know what we have supposedly done. And if our TPAs are to simply be not called TPAs and go on the cap then a) we are over the cap b) we did dodgy shit.

Every case is different. Hard to compare.

Having said that, NRL better f**king well convince me we have f**king cheated or i will go postal

 

[T-Boon]

If the NRL happen to find that we have been deceitful with TPA's in years 12-13-14 it doesn't necessarily follow that we should be punished severely.
I think they should factor in how bad we were in those years, how horrible the team looked on paper (it is almost impossible to comprehend that we were over the salary cap), how dysfunctional the club was in the board room. How desperate the fans were for some good news. We were a club on its knees in those years. A laughing stock. We were also entitled to be a bit disenchanted with the salary cap.
I would argue that around that time we were in fact the exact kind of team that the salary cap was designed and intended to help out. Lets remember we did the right thing and asked for help from the NRL in relation to Izzy and got stonewalled.
Our deceit (if any) was in a way out of need.
If there is deceit there probably does need to be some punishment (4 points) for deterrent purposes.
We are not in the same league as the Storm or Dogs. Those rosters were the exact kind of roster the cap was designed to even out. Their deceit was out of pure greed.

 

[strider]

Do we think no one is getting dodgy TPAs now?

I agree we better be considered to be doing dodgy shit recently for them to hammer us. If they can show that we are then fair enough. You dont build a team overnight, if we cheated to assemble this team then we need a kick where it hurts

 

[Gronk]

Do we think no one is getting dodgy TPAs now?

I agree we better be considered to be doing dodgy shit recently for them to hammer us. If they can show that we are then fair enough. You dont build a team overnight, if we cheated to assemble this team then we need a kick where it hurts

Agree. I worried over the summer that we seem to be accruing a team list which seemed expensive. Having said that we were only catching up to the rosters like Roosters, Sharks, Nth Qld and Broncos.

I'd love to know how the Sharks have all those players under their cap.

 

[BoneyBlake17]

Agree. I worried over the summer that we seem to be accruing a team list which seemed expensive. Having said that we were only catching up to the rosters like Roosters, Sharks, Nth Qld and Broncos.

I'd love to know how the Sharks have all those players under their cap.

Sharks dont cheat the cap. They dope their players instead

 

[strider]

Agree. I worried over the summer that we seem to be accruing a team list which seemed expensive. Having said that we were only catching up to the rosters like Roosters, Sharks, Nth Qld and Broncos.

I'd love to know how the Sharks have all those players under their cap.

Agree. I dont believe anything we get caught for will be different to what other clubs do, but we look like we got caught. And that shits me.

 

[Gronk]

Agree. I dont believe anything we get caught for will be different to what other clubs do, but we look like we got caught. And that shits me.

Yep, just like the merkin I saw that got booked by the police yesterday near Martin Place for jaywalking.

He was going off and pointing to merkins all around doing the same thing as he was being handed a ticket. :lol:

 

[yy_cheng]

Do we think no one is getting dodgy TPAs now?

I don't see any