Eels Salary Cap MK II

[hindy111]

To be fair if it was another club under investigation we would be saying strip them 10 points.....

It is a shame we did not get done last year thou. But what do you do.

 

[hindy111]

I guess be good time to blood guys like Fuimano - Twal - Alvaro. Offload guys who wont be part of our 2017 team. Give Kaysa more game time and try and develop a new style and combinations for 2017.

 

[Gronk]

Danny Weedler's article about Semi (can someone post paywalled article) is quite damning about the release of emails designed to damage the club.

He deserves our thanks TBH.

Can't believe I just said that.

 

[Delboy]

To be fair if it was another club under investigation we would be saying strip them 10 points.....

It is a shame we did not get done last year thou. But what do you do.

We would not do that unless it was the disgraceful Riff club led by Beesting Head, none of the innuendos indicate the are big amounts involved, more disclosure issues on TPAs

 

[El Diablo]

Danny Weedler's article about Semi (can someone post paywalled article) is quite damning about the release of emails designed to damage the club.

He deserves our thanks TBH.

Can't believe I just said that.

it's already been posted

 

[eels_fan]

Statement from Eels Chairman, Steve Sharp 10/04/16

The below is a statement from Parramatta Eels Chairman, Steve Sharp.
In order to address current rampant and misleading public commentary I advise Parramatta Eels Members, fans and the public of the following:
*The Eels have been assured by the NRL as late as Friday of last week (April 8) that the NRL has not reached a decision or determination in its current salary cap investigation;
*The Eels have also been assured by the NRL that the NRL investigation is proceeding unaffected by this speculation. Like all other clubs and broadcasters, we are completely reliant on the integrity of NRL processes;
*The Eels welcome these assurances from the NRL;
*As such, speculation as to findings of guilt or innocence, potential loss of points, fines, removal of Eels staff and the like is just that, speculation;
*The Eels have also been assured by the NRL the current Eels Directors, staff and I will be afforded the opportunity to assist the NRL’s investigators. We welcome this opportunity and look forward to assisting the NRL, especially given so much complex and historical material;
*Some current staff have already been interviewed and offered full assistance to the NRL;
*The Eels support the request of the NRL to interview the previous CEO Mr Scott Seward and any other former employees, officials or relevant parties they deem necessary;
*The Eels stand ready to further assist the NRL in any way moving forward; and
*We reassert our commitment to the ongoing reforms of the governance of the club made necessary by previous poor practices.

Much of the current speculation and misinformation is clearly being fuelled and driven by those opposed to these reforms.

We look forward to ongoing discussions in detail with the NRL in the proper forum to address each and every matter in detail. We are disclosing any and all relevant material within our knowledge to the NRL.

And we reject the wildly misleading and inaccurate comparisons between the current investigation into the Eels and the findings in respect of the Melbourne Storm and the Bulldogs in years gone by.

There has been much criticism of the Eels for not making more public comment as the investigation has proceeded.

We have chosen to be circumspect in any public commentary for this simple reason: public commentary has the effect of undermining confidence in the integrity of the NRL processes which every fan, every single NRL club and the game’s broadcasters rely upon.

If these processes are compromised, then the game and everyone who loves and is invested in the game are potentially diminished.

What we can say is that current Eels leadership is actively reforming the governance of the club in close association with the NRL. There have clearly been many serious previous problems at the club warranting this reform program.

http://www.parraeels.com.au/news/2016/04/10/statement_from_eels_.html

 

[Noise]

Good to see a statement from Sharp. The tone of it seems different to the previous ones where we were originally avoiding the 4 point suspended sentence. The previous ones Sharp was adamant we would not lose points. This one doesn't inspire that same confidence.

 

[hineyrulz]

Good to see him question that BS article from Roy Masters.

Strong statement from him, but I agree Noise sounds like we will lose points sadly.

 

[Snoochies]

If the talk of all these points being lost is coming from the ones leaking the so called info, then no one really knows what the situation is. Seems Sharp is doing all he can for the NRL and not giving in to the media and the opposers.

Parra losing points will be a disaster for Channel 9 and the media even though the story is generating clicks at the moment.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I wouldn't read too much into the lack of mention of losing points.

In the first set of interviews there was a suspended 4 point penalty hanging over us, so it was natural to comment on that issue.

With respect to the 'new' issues, there's no suspended 4 point penalty....the outcome could range from a congratulatory letter and set of steak knives to expulsion from the competition.

 

[Chipmunk]

Good to see a statement from Sharp. The tone of it seems different to the previous ones where we were originally avoiding the 4 point suspended sentence. The previous ones Sharp was adamant we would not lose points. This one doesn't inspire that same confidence.

Previously we had already been informed we would lose 4 points and less we complied with the NRL demands.

Why would he need to indicate his confidence about not losing points when no one who currently runs the game has indicated there will be any loss of points?

In case you've forgotten, the NRL is no longer owned by those associated with the Daily Telegraph.

 

[eels_fan]

a strong statement by Sharp, and needed. so is the media lying about having 'inside knowledge' or is the NRL lying to Sharp in saying they haven't made a decision

 

[eels_fan]

Also does anyone find it strange that the CEO, chairman or board are yet to be interviewed or even asked to comment by the NRL, now 3 weeks into the investigation??

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Also does anyone find it strange that the CEO, chairman or board are yet to be interviewed or even asked to comment by the NRL, now 3 weeks into the investigation??

Ummmm....why do you think that that is necessarily the case? Asking the Board would be pointless, unless particular directors were alleged to have been directly involved in a suspect transaction. I would have thought that the NRL would have spoken to the CEO and Sharp, in general terms, and in specific terms in regard to issues for which they have responsibility.

 

[El Diablo]

*The Eels have been assured by the NRL as late as Friday of last week (April 8) that the NRL has not reached a decision or determination in its current salary cap investigation;
*The Eels have also been assured by the NRL that the NRL investigation is proceeding unaffected by this speculation. Like all other clubs and broadcasters, we are completely reliant on the integrity of NRL processes;

this all sounds good but it's not like the NRL are going to tell Parra that they are leaking like a sieve and are not going to hand out a punishment that the media and high profile clubs aren't happy with

 

[Noise]

this all sounds good but it's not like the NRL are going to tell Parra that they are leaking like a sieve and are not going to hand out a punishment that the media and high profile clubs aren't happy with

Yep, just because they haven't finalised a punishment does not mean they are pretty sure what they will do and people from the NRL aren't leaking these things to the media.

 

[Suitman]

I wouldn't read too much into the lack of mention of losing points.

In the first set of interviews there was a suspended 4 point penalty hanging over us, so it was natural to comment on that issue.

With respect to the 'new' issues, there's no suspended 4 point penalty....the outcome could range from a congratulatory letter and set of steak knives to expulsion from the competition.

I completely agree.

I've sat idly by watching this scenario pan out, and I would like to ask some questions.

1. What is it that we have supposedly done?

2. Has there been any announcement from the NRL regarding what they are investigating?

3. It is my understanding, that there is some issues with TPA's. Is there anything else?

4. One particular TPA - that of Anthony Watmough's, has been reported to have been supplied by a subsidiary company of a parent company that has previously supplied services to the Parramatta Leagues Club.
If this is the case (and this might indeed be an issue) why didn't the previous investigation into the Eels by the NRL identify this issue? I would have thought this was entirely a simple trail through ASIC for the investigators. Weren't we employing (or contracting) Ian Schubert to oversee such issues?

5. Where have the potential penalties been coming from? As far as I see it, nothing has come from the NRL, so therefore, the penalties have all been purely media speculation. Over the past few weeks, these penalties have been increasing in size.
Why?
They started off at 4 points, and have now grown to a possible 16? Can someone please explain to me where these supposed possible penalties are coming from?

6. Has anyone in the media ever questioned where this "new information" is coming from?
It certainly hasn't come from the NRL. The best I can see is that it has come from "sources".
Sources of whom? Is this in itself, not questionable?



At this point, I would like to return to point No.1.
What is it that we have supposedly done?
I've seen nothing in the media of anything, substantiated or factual. It seems that EVERY MEDIA OUTLET has been running with the speculation that has been tabled (tabloid) by the Daily Telegraph. The very same information that has been provided by "sources".

Yes, we have had infractions in the past, and we have previously been penalised for those infractions, and are also, currently on a suspended sentence of a further 4 point loss of competition points for any further infraction.

I'm currently confused as to why there has been such an uproar in ALL forms of the media when it hasn't clearly been spelt out at all what the actual problems are.
This whole joke of the current situation has been the most appalling anti Eels media campaign I've ever seen.
If this is the way one of the three primary media advocates of our game wants to treat one of its major assets, the game can get f**ked.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Yes, that's about it Suity. There's probably enough smoke to suggest that something is amiss, but I'm happy to wait and see what actually happens when the dust settles before getting too dizzy.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

The media also talked up the Royal commission into unions!! There was plenty of smoke there if you read all the media reports and headlines, but gee there has been very few charges made or many found guilty. Media can definitely make thing seem worse then they are!!

 

[IFR33K]

I completely agree.

I've sat idly by watching this scenario pan out, and I would like to ask some questions.

1. What is it that we have supposedly done?

In a nutshell, we have problems with chocs tpa's. But there isn't enough to warrant points deduction, so now they're getting us for breaching the cap for several years.