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Eels Salary Cap MK II

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phantom eel

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A few more weeks will kill these flog journos. So will a no point deduction.
I'd love this to play out for a few more weeks now. The journos have really played all their cards and have nothing left!

If the NRL takes its time with the investigation - which indicates they haven't yet found a clear breach impacting this season - then the journos will have no choice but to start writing about something else, or even simply reporting on the games themselves. :lol:

A delayed outcome will serve to make the media hysteria of the past month look like a "storm" in a teacup, and the average punter will start to realise how full of shit the media really are. This is the media's nightmare, because if their readers start to see through their agenda... then they won't be able to continue to sell clicks or papers at present rates on the back of their sloppy opinionated coverage.
 
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you'd think so

she has accused every board member and CEO over the last decade salary cap cheats

how many people is that?

Yeh, she'll get away with it because she hasn't been specific as to identity (and possibly because a sliver of it might be true). Slander (or libel as it is potentially here) gets a lot harder to make stick when you don't name individuals.....
 

Gary Gutful

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I'd love this to play out for a few more weeks now. The journos have really played all their cards and have nothing left!

If the NRL takes its time with the investigation - which indicates they haven't yet found a clear breach impacting this season - then the journos will have no choice but to start writing about something else, or even simply reporting on the games themselves. :lol:

A delayed outcome will serve to make the media hysteria of the past month look like a "storm" in a teacup, and the average punter will start to realise how full of shit the media really are. This is the media's nightmare, because if their readers start to see through their agenda... then they won't be able to continue to sell clicks or papers at present rates on the back of their sloppy opinionated coverage.

Until a decision is made and there is another tidal wave of faeces heading our way.

Best if we get all that out of the way sooner rather than later.
 

Gary Gutful

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Yeh, she'll get away with it because she hasn't been specific as to identity (and possibly because a sliver of it might be true). Slander (or libel as it is potentially here) gets a lot harder to make stick when you don't name individuals.....

Agreed. She wouldn't have any case to answer.
 

Johnny88

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Kieran Foran praises Eels players for shutting out salary cap saga
PARRAMATTA captain Kieran Foran has praised his players’ ability to keep winning despite the threat of losing competition points, saying of the salary cap saga: “It really is nothing to us”.

Undeterred by the prospect of playing for zero points this season, Eels players remain ­focused on driving the club into a finals series for the first time in six years.
Switching from Manly over summer, Foran stressed he had no regrets about joining a club whose fairytale start could yet be derailed by the cap saga.
After beating the Sea Eagles at Brookvale Oval on Thursday night, Foran praised the way his teammates were handling the circus engulfing Parramatta headquarters.
“I couldn’t be more proud of how the boys are able to just block it out and get on with footy,’’ he said.
“They just do it ... it’s nothing to them.
“A few times I’ve rocked up to training and wondered if the boys have looked at things in the paper or listened to the news. But it doesn’t faze them.
“There’s a real resilience in this club at the moment. We’re winning games on effort.”
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Kieran Foran has praised his Parramatta teammates. Picture: Gregg Porteous
Halves partner Corey Norman agreed, saying the team remained “hopeful” of being allowed to play finals footy by the NRL should they prove themselves good enough.

Asked how they kept winning, despite the distractions, Norman laughed: “I have no idea. I guess we keep it simple. Don’t talk about it.
“A lot of the boys keep their head out of the papers so we’ve got nothing to do with it. But whatever happens, we’ll deal with it then.”
While Foran’s return to Brookvale wasn’t without drama — “I almost drove into my old car park” — he was pleased the Sea Eagles faithful had gone easy on him.
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Kieran Foran made a triumphant return to Brookvale Oval with Parramatta. Picture: Gregg Porteous
Despite a few boos that greeted his early touches, the 25-year-old Kiwi international was treated no worse than any other visiting player.
“And I guess that’s what you hope for,’’ Foran said.
“I hold no hard feelings against the club and I’d like to think the fans and the club see it the same way.
“I wear my heart on my sleeve. And I like to think I played my heart and soul out for this joint.’’
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...a/news-story/ecacdd9a66a3212f75803b78bbea1afc
 

Chipmunk

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So the NRL has leaked it? Not much integrity in that unit then is there?

As a paying member I will want answers from the NRL as to how they leaked details of an investigation that is still ongoing to the media. You can't have an integrity unit if your organisation has no integrity!

I'd love to see someone like Gus make a comment publicly like this. We need someone like Gus to help our agenda.
 

Johnny88

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Another Paul Kent Bash up.
Parramatta’s Anthony Watmough request a test for NRL CEO Todd Greenberg
ONE of the great reasons Todd Greenberg was appointed chief executive was because, to quote, he “knew football”.

Now comes the test.
The NRL is considering whether to permit Parramatta’s request for Anthony Watmough to retire and collect career-ending insurance.
It would mean the remaining three years of Watmough’s four-year deal with Parramatta, including this season where he is yet to appear, would be paid out in full but not included in the salary cap.
Around the game the clubs are watching, interested and ready. The potential implications of an insurance payout will be monumental, and they know it.
For those who dispute this, let’s remember the circumstances Watmough arrived at Parramatta. In football terms.
He was offered a four-year deal that dwarfed everything Manly could offer.
They privately wondered how he would ever see the deal out and were not prepared to risk Watmough’s troublesome knee lasting four more seasons as Parramatta were.
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Anthony Watmough watches on from the sidelines. Picture: Gregg Porteous
So Watmough became the first link to break the chain, leaving a close bond of premiership winners as others, like Glenn Stewart and Kieran Foran, also left.
You could argue Watmough’s presence at Parramatta was an added encouragement for Foran to link with the club.
It left Manly in a rebuild. They admit they had to pay overs to retain Daly Cherry-Evans, offering the longest contract, and therefore job security, in the game’s history.
Alas, as Manly believed, Watmough’s knee was hurting and so they saved themselves the burden of an injured player on their salary cap. The Eels claim, though, that Watmough suffered fresh injury to it over the summer and therefore it was not pre-existing.
So it’s off for assessment.
If Watmough’s injury is approved the Eels will pay him out and claim it under ­career-ending insurance. The moment the injury is claimed, and therefore excluded from the salary cap, every NRL club will search for players not far off retirement.

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Kieran Foran left Manly and joined Anthony Watmough at Parramatta. Picture: Gregg Porteous
A simple offer will be put to them. They will offer low-end money up front with a balloon payment in the final two contracted years. Under the current agreement, insurance covers the final two years of a playing contract up to $500,000 a year. It will also pay 75 per cent of it for a season beyond the contract end.
Few clubs will care about the amounts because they know they will never have to pay it or count it against their salary cap — because it will be written off under insurance.
It won’t be hard to prove. There is hardly a player in the game not carrying some sort of chronic injury. But it will get the player at their club for the short term, which might be enough to turn the club around.
Let’s remember, Watmough’s arrival at Parramatta certainly encouraged others to think blue and gold. Talk to Manly fans watching Foran on Thursday night.
Such a move has the capacity to distort the salary cap completely out of shape.
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Manly signed Daly Cherry-Evans to the longest contract in the game’s history. Picture: Gregg Porteous
Until now, when players began to age, a club’s best action would be to do what they all do, which was try to offload him to the English Super League at a reduced contract and be encumbered with just a percentage of his contract on the cap, offsetting the rest in England. Not anymore.
Every NRL contract is now guaranteed for its duration. If a player retires prematurely through injury it puts the onus on the club to recoup their money from the insurer.
Poor clubs cannot afford to risk an extra half million dollars a year on a player who might not pass the insurance test.
Rich clubs can though. And they will.
They already are stocked full of ways to navigate the cap. Many already use ex-players in ambassador roles, not because they are ­particularly friendly with the sponsors but because it is a way to delay contract payments on the cap but still reward the player.
You need to look at this for only five minutes to see we now have another way to test the cap.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...g/news-story/1c49ab5bd30fe893acda4157c32f6335
 

Chipmunk

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Another Paul Kent Bash up.

The NRL had no issue in registering the terms of the Watmough contract. Good luck in any court in the country with then later saying that there was an issue with the length of the contract.

Everything to do with the media reporting of this club at the moment is simply farcical.
 
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Chipmunk

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I'd laugh if nothing comes out of this investigation and the DT journalist ask Greenberg "but what about all this information reported in the media?" And Greenberg just simply responded with "Well last time I looked News Linited no longer runs the NRL"
 

Johnny88

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Yeah its a joke Chipmunk, Kent was upset last week because he heard the NRL were going to take a softer option with us. The NRL cleared us before the season that should be it. Can they keep going back to change things because the media or leakers want us to burn.
 

IFR33K

Coach
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There's two delayed announcements out there. Watmoughs retirement and the eels penalty. Are these two issues somehow related??? Is the NRL trying to see if we offered choc a four deal, with the possibility of him retiring,with his payments not effecting the cap. Wish they'd hurry up.
 

Redback71

First Grade
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If the Eels do loose points do you think having a successful year would cost a more than an unsuccessful one.

like if we were struggling to win games and had only won a single game not much use deducting 12 points. but because where already on 10pts they might decide to penalise us more.
 
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