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Eels Salary Cap MK II

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Yeah i have no doubt we are not over he cap yet this year ... but he might just mean there is some dodginess in their contracts - raaaaaay's not to bright, might not know the difference

Yeh, the suggestion I presume is either undisclosed payments or undisclosed details of payments (e.g. related parties). But, I find it hard to believe too much of what is said....so much of it is contradictory.
 

Chipmunk

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:clap: Surprised so many on this forum bother to listen to the guy and his agendas.

His voice isn't heard in my house or car - never tune into his radio station, and I always mute the TV commentary and have the closed captions on.

So your happy to read his words, just not listen to his voice?
 

84 Baby

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He actually thinks he's a chance to get back in. I can't see it.

It's per candidate popular vote. He just needs to convince enough people to not vote for his opposition and hope then enough votes swing to one of his mates. I don't wish bad juju on anyone but sometimes I think perhaps we'd be better off if his footballing years drove him into complete senility
 

phantom eel

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So your happy to read his words, just not listen to his voice?
You see, I don't know whose words are whose in the captioned commentary or even who is calling each game. The words on screen all mix in together, and the beauty is that you don't have to hear them - or even look at them to read them.

Some of the live transcription errors can be quite funny though.
 

Gary Gutful

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:clap: Surprised so many on this forum bother to listen to the guy and his agendas.

His voice isn't heard in my house or car - never tune into his radio station, and I always mute the TV commentary and have the closed captions on.

This.

They have started broadcasting him in Brisbane but I would sooner cut off my c**k than listen to him.

He thrives on people being outraged by what he says. The reality is that most sensible people probably feel more pity than outrage.
 

El Diablo

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:clap: Surprised so many on this forum bother to listen to the guy and his agendas.

His voice isn't heard in my house or car - never tune into his radio station, and I always mute the TV commentary and have the closed captions on.

why would you have the closed captions on just because it's muted :?

they hog up the screen as they have that annoying black background
 

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...s/news-story/1553ab34d5db28af5b66b82ee6293a90

Eels consider response to possible points penalty for alleged salary cap breaches
an hour ago
DAVID RICCIOCHIEF SPORTS WRITERThe Daily Telegraph

PARRAMATTA would consider fielding an NRL side full of park footballers, immediately shedding players who have already signed with rival clubs and begin preparing for 2018.

In what could have a major and detrimental impact on TV ratings, crowds and interest, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal Eels powerbrokers have discussed how they plan to react, if the NRL rubs the club out of the finals race by docking them competition points for alleged salary cap breaches.

Having analysed more than 700,000 documents, the NRL are in the process of finalising their determination from the lengthy inquiry, with a decision on potential penalties expected to be handed down in the next 72 hours.

It has been widely reported that if found guilty of third-party deal cheating, the Eels face a multitude of penalties including the removal of key club figures caught up in the scandal, a huge monetary fine and the loss of points.

Currently sitting on 12-competition points, the Eels have won six of their nine matches this season.

12 wins — or 28-points — is considered the top-8 cut-off, meaning the Eels only need to win six of their remaining 15-games to remain in top-8 contention.

However, with speculation that the NRL are considering docking the Eels eight competition points for salary cap breaches, they would then need to win 10 of their final 15-matches — not an inconceivable task.

But should the Eels be docked more than eight-points, they will almost certainly miss the finals, ensuring that the remainder of the season is effectively a waste.

It’s why Eels heavyweights have spoken about resting their biggest names, as opposed to playing at the risk of injury.

Playing in front of 31,815 fans against Canterbury at ANZ Stadium last Friday night, the Eels desicion to preserve their best players for 2018 would undoubtedly impact their home crowd figures and TV interest.

The immediate release of players, including Junior Paulo, who has signed a deal to join Canberra next season, would also allow the Eels to save money on their salary cap for 2018.

NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg wouldn’t indicate when a decision would be made, saying only that his priority was putting the game first.

“This has been a thorough and diligent process but we are confident we will come up with the right resolution,’’ Greenberg said.

“This has been one of the toughest investigations we have undertaken ... the Integrity Unit has gone through more than 700,000 documents.

“So it has been an exhaustive process but the important thing is that we put the game first at all times.”
 

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http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-leag...thony-watmough-tpa-drama-20160430-goiwak.html

NRL poised to make call on fresh Parramatta Eels/Anthony Watmough TPA drama

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April 30, 2016 - 10:00PM

Adrian Proszenko
Chief Rugby League Reporter

EXCLUSIVE

The NRL is poised to rule whether a third-party agreement for star forward Anthony Watmough was sufficiently at arm's length from a club consultant to avoid constituting a salary cap breach.

Fairfax Media can reveal the governing body registered a TPA for Watmough with PJ Promotions, an events company that has now been wound up. It's alleged the Eels may not have fully disclosed the company's relationship with one of its consultants, Tracy McKelligott. McKelligott had been engaged as a brand marketing manager by the club, through her firm Eclipse Events and PR Group. McKelligott also had links to PJ Promotions, which was run by members of her family. McKelligott has been previously described as 'director of show organiser' in previous press reports on the company and was listed as the organiser contact for last year's Newcastle Home Show, an event run by PJ Promotions.

It is understood former Parramatta CFO Ed Farish raised concerns about potential conflicts of interests, fearing head office may frown upon a consultant on the club's books being so closely associated with the company entering into a TPA with a star player.

It was one of several issues Farish raised via email to Parramatta powerbrokers, including the club's dealing with firms including Black Citrus, Green Options, clothing label Zibara and Egroup Security. Farish implored officials to raise any potential issues with Rugby League Central, but their failure to do so on at least some occasions raises the prospect of heavy sanctions. The Eels are likely to be docked competition points and slugged with a massive fine, while any officials found to have contravened the NRL's code of conduct face the sack.

McKelligott's services were first engaged by former Eels CEO Ken Edwards and she continued to consult to the club under his successor, Scott Seward. The Watmough-PJ Promotions deal was registered with the NRL during Seward's tenure. When current CEO John Boulous took over, he decided not to continue to engage the Eclipse Agency, preferring to instead bring all of the club's marketing in-house.

It's understood when McKelligott was relieved of her services, PJ Promotions decided not to follow through with the third-party deal with Watmough and the former NSW and Australian backrower likely didn't benefit financially.

However, the NRL could still issue a breach notice and/or ensure the Eels include any mooted deal in their salary cap if they believe the club didn't properly disclose the arrangement.

McKelligott, currently on extended sick leave, didn't return calls. Boulos said the TPA pre-dated his time as CEO. "The issues relating to this old third party arrangement have been the subject of discussions between myself and the NRL," Boulous said. "The third party arrangement between PJ Promotions and the relevant player was registered with the NRL. "It has been confirmed that the agreement between PJ Promotions and the player, albeit registered with the NRL, had not commenced prior to its termination by PJ Promotions. "Further to that, in the current discussions with the NRL it may be deemed necessary that the third party agreement 'figure' should be included in the salary cap. Current management would make provision for this if it were required."

Watmough hasn't played this season due to a knee injury. Ironically, he may be able to solve some of Parramatta's cap issues if he is forced into premature retirement, as insurance will cover the remaining years of his contract and won't count against the club's salary cap.

Farish's email to Eels officials shapes as the smoking gun in the NRL's investigation into the club.

Fairfax Media revealed in February that Rugby League Central was probing another payment to Watmough from one of two companies of which Stephen Moss - the son of Eels tragic and former Macquarie Bank executive Bill Moss - is the sole director. The issue relates to TPAs from Scorecube - a wholly owned subsidiary of BlackCitrus - to Watmough that wasn't properly disclosed to head office. Former fullback Jarryd Hayne is believed to also be the beneficiary of a similar arrangement. There is no suggestion of any wrongdoing by either players or their managers.

Other issues to pique the interest of head office include Parramatta paying clothing provider Zibara a significant sum for merchandise, despite the club having no record of any goods ever being received.

"Mr Farish's email has also been discussed at great length with the NRL," Boulous said. "Current management has been able to provide important and revealing context to the NRL regarding this email. Current management has offered and delivered full transparency to the NRL as part of its investigation."

The latest revelations come as the NRL prepares to hand down its sanctions this week. Before they do so, the club will first stage a Parramatta Leagues Club annual general meeting that is likely to be the most volatile in its history.

A number of special and ordinary resolutions have been proposed for Monday's gathering, including proposed protections around the privatisation of the franchise. However, there is a feeling members will shoot down all of the resolutions in protest over the way the way the board and management have run the club.
 

Noise

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Why does the article keep saying 2018? Are they wiping 2017 too?

And I wouldn't be opposed to what they are suggesting.
 

El Diablo

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However, the NRL could still issue a breach notice and/or ensure the Eels include any mooted deal in their salary cap if they believe the club didn't properly disclose the arrangement.

so money that was never paid should be counted in the cap :crazy:
 

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"Mr Farish's email has also been discussed at great length with the NRL," Boulous said. "Current management has been able to provide important and revealing context to the NRL regarding this email. Current management has offered and delivered full transparency to the NRL as part of its investigation."

which no doubt the NRL have ignored

i wouldn't be surprised if the NRL has shred any approvals they gave to cover their arse
 

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700,000 documents... 700,000. I'm calling absolute BS on that number. How many people work in the integrity unit? Let's go with with 10, that's 70,000 documents read and analysed per person. Even at 100 a day per person (which would seem on high scale to me), that's 700 days... Unless the integrity unit has 1,000 investigators, it's all BS
 

Chipmunk

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700,000 documents... 700,000. I'm calling absolute BS on that number. How many people work in the integrity unit? Let's go with with 10, that's 70,000 documents read and analysed per person. Even at 100 a day per person (which would seem on high scale to me), that's 700 days... Unless the integrity unit has 1,000 investigators, it's all BS

Having previously been involved in fraud investigations involving extensive numbers of documents, you wouldn't go through every document and it's easy to search through multiple documents using keywords if its all stored electronically. Emails are piss easy to search through to find keywords actually.

I think the Integrity Unit is only a handful of people. Youd outsource this shit normally.
 
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phantom eel

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why would you have the closed captions on just because it's muted :?

they hog up the screen as they have that annoying black background
They don't take up too much of the screen... it's actually our default viewing mode for more than footy - works surprising quite well for news shows, stand-up comedy shows etc.
 
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