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Eels Salary Cap MK III

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There are a lot of legal assertions I this thread which are just simply wrong.

The Contracts Review Act doesn't apply to corporations, or business related matters.

Our claim in the court is very likely for judicial review (based on the reports in the media - I haven't seen the court documents), which means it will be in the common law division, and not the equity division.

Mena rea is a criminal law concept which won't apply.

People should bear in mind too that the court action is not going to result In the court conducting a merits review ie making a decision on how many if any points should be deducted, or whether we are in breach.
Yeah contracts review was for grannies getting fleeced of life savings, not for dopes running businesses who should know better (or not be in business).

And as far as I am aware the court action so far is solely on NRL's ability to effectively stop part of club from running it's business (team playing for points - professional sports law can be funny) by refusing to continue business with directors of club.

Anyone in vicinity of law courts with time on hands? Hearing was scheduled to start at 10 and I think court was open for viewing?
 

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Yeah contracts review was for grannies getting fleeced of life savings, not for dopes running businesses who should know better (or not be in business).

And as far as I am aware the court action so far is solely on NRL's ability to effectively stop part of club from running it's business (team playing for points - professional sports law can be funny) by refusing to continue business with directors of club.

Anyone in vicinity of law courts with time on hands? Hearing was scheduled to start at 10 and I think court was open for viewing?

Surely the SMH court reporter will be there.
 

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Regardless of our innocence, Kate's article shows there are far worse dealings with TPA's than what we could ever be accused of.

The cat is out of the bag NRL, not that any rational person hasn't seen it for a long time. "Fall on your sword" and start harassing some other clubs Greenburg.

Or do you only have one mate that is willing to ruin a club?
 

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I cannot see the NRL making the decision for the penalty to be less than the 12 points that we have accumulated so far. It would be an extreme embarrassment for all concerned at the NRL. It would spell the immediate end for Greenberg, Weeks and L'frenchy. I really don't see the NRL putting themselves in that position.
 

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I cannot see the NRL making the decision for the penalty to be less than the 12 points that we have accumulated so far. It would be an extreme embarrassment for all concerned at the NRL. It would spell the immediate end for Greenberg, Weeks and L'frenchy. I really don't see the NRL putting themselves in that position.

Not really, it was just what was recommended not the final decision. They could just say,

"the eels have responded to the allegations and information they have provided shows only xx amount of TPA's were not compliant.......based on this information eels are only xx amount over the cap. The new information supports reducing the points penalty to ....... ."
 

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I cannot see the NRL making the decision for the penalty to be less than the 12 points that we have accumulated so far. It would be an extreme embarrassment for all concerned at the NRL. It would spell the immediate end for Greenberg, Weeks and L'frenchy. I really don't see the NRL putting themselves in that position.

I do. He kept saying that we cannot play for points until we are salary compliant. That was the crux for his reasoning. If Choc's retirement places us under combined with Schubert's findings what is he going to base it on? Pressure from Paul Kent and Ray Hadley? Greenberg has bitten off more than he can chew and relied upon amateurs to present his findings. I'd be going for the jugular if I was representing the Eels.
 

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The 12 point penalty will stand unless we can blow the NRLs case apart. I can't see any other scenario that would result in the penalty being reduced.
 

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The 12 point penalty will stand unless we can blow the NRLs case apart. I can't see any other scenario that would result in the penalty being reduced.

How about them miscalculating the breach? That's a good start.
 

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Obviously we don't know all the breach details, but this is a could be a good chance for Sharp to show some real good leadership.

If club thinks it has a good case against the NRL claims, Sharp should try to cut a deal with the NRL. A reduction in points ( and clearing DA / JB if they have done nothing wrong as they are career administrators) for him ( and other directors) standing down and putting in place some serious changes to board structure / governance model (within what ever boundaries the eels constitution allows).

If Sharp is smart changes to structure could prevent his distractors ever getting near the place.

Then we have a win/win for both the eels / NRL. And while Sharp may look like taking the fall, deep down he would know he did the right thing for long term positive change to the club.
 
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I do. He kept saying that we cannot play for points until we are salary compliant. That was the crux for his reasoning. If Choc's retirement places us under combined with Schubert's findings what is he going to base it on? Pressure from Paul Kent and Ray Hadley? Greenberg has bitten off more than he can chew and relied upon amateurs to present his findings. I'd be going for the jugular if I was representing the Eels.

Spot on.

A lot of other little things don't wash well with me in regards to Greenberg's heroics on Tuesday.

One is the fact that he was late to the press conference that was going to notify us loyal fans and the rugby league world about the punishment. Why was he late? Because he felt it was more important to go on Ray Hadleys morning show and speak to him first about the situation. That is a joke.

Then he fact he wanted to paint the picture he will not tolerate any backlash from the GO5 warning them on the channel 9 footy show to " think very wisely before making your next move Parramatta". It is now coming clearer with each passing day it was all a ploy.

If he is such an admirable leader you wouldn't be backing down within 72 hours of making that hardline stance.

He wanted to cheat us out of a fair trial, I am not saying we haven't done any wrong because I am sure we have but the way he has handled this situation deserves as much scrutiny as what we have done.
 
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