Eels Salary Cap Mk V

[Gronk]

Yeah but why did they choose to talk? In Seward's case was it because his mentor, who also happens to be the prosecutor and the judge, told him to? And if so, is that fair?

It isn't "fair" that Gee chose not to give evidence, but little we can do about it. If the NRL had any balls they would have found a way to punish/sanction the Broncos until such time that Gee did talk.

I bet if Seward and Irvine chose to STFU the NRL would not have simply shrugged their shoulders and moved on with us.

 

[El Diablo]

If it proven Nolan did pass on cash then his new employer needs to be fully investigated. Kate could bring down the Broncos as well. Wonder if the NRL will give us leniency then to keep the Broncos out of trouble.

it seems people are untouchable no matter what they did wrong if employed by certain clubs http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/emp...rm-chairman-says/story-e6frf3ou-1226055097101

 

[Kornstar]

I can imagine the way league is there could even be a few strip joints etc paying TPAs in services rendered...

Eberything has a financial value even services offered in kind - time the NRL cracked down across the game on allowable TPAs and how they are paid/reported.

Ultimately centralised salary payments is the only way to go. Instead of giving clubs grants to cover the salary cap, the NRL pays clubs directly. And for the course of their registration players agree that any additional income (secondary employment) be declared, invoiced and paid by the TPA/sponsor via the NRL accounts and onto the player.

NRL audits clubs and registered TPA sponsors to (try and) ensure there are no dodgy post-retirement inducements that are hidden in a player's final contract... thus last bit's a work un progress and the potential loophole.

Yep, there has to be a better way and if the NRL actually had any leadership or clue it would be something they sort out.

Centralising and having a process for approving TPAs through the NRL is essential for clarity. If they are not club generated then the NRL needs to accommodate the entire process. TPA providers go to the NRL, not the clubs. Keep them seperate and the clubs don't have an extra thing to worry about.

Having the onus on all parties to abide by the rules and how you will receive any payments won't get rid of cheating but it will ensure that any payments outside of the NRL bank account relating to playing footy will be the admission of guilt that is required. There can be no playing dumb on anyone's part.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

It isn't "fair" that Gee chose not to give evidence, but little we can do about it. If the NRL had any balls they would have found a way to punish/sanction the Broncos until such time that Gee did talk.

I bet if Seward and Irvine chose to STFU the NRL would not have simply shrugged their shoulders and moved on with us.

I suppose what I was getting at was, does greenberg's relationship with Seward make his evidence in any way tainted or even inadmissible? Or were the pair of them so wracked with guilt that they just had to get it all off their chest?

 

[Oscarman]

I suppose what I was getting at was, does greenberg's relationship with Seward make his evidence in any way tainted or even inadmissible? Or were the pair of them so wracked with guilt that they just had to get it all off their chest?

It doesn't, but surely Greenberg would take the word of a mate over the evil board of directors? The things they made poor Scott do.

 

[T.S Quint]

I am completely resigned to the fact that we have lost our points for this year, and we won't be getting them back.
I am ok with the sanctions being brought on the club - we did wrong and deserve to be punished.
Losing points? I'm used to not playing Finals and finishing down the bottom of the ladder. This is just one more year in a long line of years.
Big fine? Who gives a shit! We can afford it. Doesn't affect me at all.

But I do want us to do everything we can to appeal and bring down those who seem to be ACTUALLY responsible for the club being in this predicament.
If the board members, CEO and Football Manager are to be de-registered, never to be a part of the game again, then the same should be happening to Seward, Irvine and Nolan.
From the testimony published, it seems that those three are the ringleaders in all this, responsible for all the dodgy payments, while the board are only guilty of ignorance.

I want these three brought down....and if Greenberg has anything to do with it then he needs to be brought down too.
And the other clubs that are no doubt cheating as well....BRING THEM ALL DOWN!!!!!

 

[El Diablo]

and f**k their eyes!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ash411]

If the board members, CEO and Football Manager are to be de-registered, never to be a part of the game again, then the same should be happening to Seward, Irvine and Nolan.

Ultimately, what does that achieve? Nolan yeah, I understand cause he is still in the game.

But the other two, for all we know, have no intention of working in Rugby League again anyway, so lifetime de-registration won't mean anything to them anyway.

I personally, don't want them to appeal, not because I want Seward, Irvine and Nolan to get away with it, but because an appeal will only drag this whole mess on a few more months, with no different result.

If Greenberg was going to do anything about Seward, Irvine and Nolan, he would have already, It's not like he didn't know about everything that has happened, the recent media stories have come directly from Sewards testimony.

So, we appeal, we still lose 12 points, get fined, the Go5 de-registered, and we spend another 8 weeks getting dragged through the mud in the media, for what?

 

[T.S Quint]

Ultimately, what does that achieve? Nolan yeah, I understand cause he is still in the game.

But the other two, for all we know, have no intention of working in Rugby League again anyway, so lifetime de-registration won't mean anything to them anyway.

I personally, don't want them to appeal, not because I want Seward, Irvine and Nolan to get away with it, but because an appeal will only drag this whole mess on a few more months, with no different result.

If Greenberg was going to do anything about Seward, Irvine and Nolan, he would have already, It's not like he didn't know about everything that has happened, the recent media stories have come directly from Sewards testimony.

So, we appeal, we still lose 12 points, get fined, the Go5 de-registered, and we spend another 8 weeks getting dragged through the mud in the media, for what?

Being de-registered from a sport is a pretty big deal, even if they aren't a part of it at the time.
I'm not sure what Seward and Irvine are doing now, but I can't see them getting a job in sports administration anytime soon, at least not at the top level.

I want all the information brought to light. An Appeal will likely do that. I want every avenue looked down by our club, and if the rats get exposed to an extent that can't be ignored (either by the NRL, the police or whoever) then even better.
I want the salary cap put under a microscope. I want the other clubs to be afraid. This shit has been going on at too many clubs for too long and we might as well be the ones to try and bring it to a head.
The NRL needs to change the system. And the scumbag in charge needs to go. Why is Seward not being held accountable despite seemingly being the one who has done the most damage? Greenberg is saving his own arse I bet. And he's afraid of an appeal, you can bet on that.

 

[strider]

deregister that slimey prick Greenburg

 

[Gronk]

I might just put this here

• • THE AUSTRALIAN
  • 1:35PM OCTOBER 16, 2014

  FORMER Brisbane player Andrew Gee has effectively been handed a life ban by the NRL over his refusal to cooperate with a salary cap investigation into the Broncos.
  
  And former Gold Coast captain Scott Prince will not have his ambassador role renewed after the NRL found he was paid substantially more than the amount in his contract lodged with the game’s governing body.
  
  The NRL failed to identify any breaches of the cap in Brisbane, but made it clear its investigation into the game’s flagship club was hindered by an inability to access information from the Broncos Leagues Club as well as former officials.
  
  Gee, who was general manager of football operations at the Broncos until resigning earlier this year in the wake of the cap investigation, refused to comply with NRL requests.
  
  The NRL still had the power to sanction the Broncos on the balance of probabilities but opted not to do so.
  
  The Titans were nowhere near as fortunate after being slugged with a $300,000 fine and docked four competition points. The loss of points and $75,000 of the fine were suspended for a two-year period
  
  Four other clubs have been issued with fines totalling more than $90,000 for less serious salary cap breaches.
  
  General Manager of Integrity Nick Weeks said the Titans penalty was issued following an investigation by the integrity unit which was instigated by the new management of the club.
  
  It found that Prince was paid substantially more than the contract lodged with the NRL by a previous Titans administration.
  
  The NRL said the difference in remuneration was never disclosed by the previous Titans administration or Prince and was only unearthed by the new management.
  
  The NRL added that Prince’s role as a One Community Ambassador expires this month and would not be renewed.
  
  “I am satisfied that clubs are generally attempting to meet their salary cap duties,” Weeks said.
  
  “But all clubs are on notice that we have drawn a line in the sand. If clubs breach the salary cap in the future they will face heavy penalties, including the loss of competition points.”

  http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...l/news-story/2eafa542da693abc0209db825967e525

 

[Gazzamatta]

It boggles the mind how Seward,Nolan and Irvine have got out of this scott free. And after their dodgy practices how can anyone take anything they say seriously???

Exactly and the fact that all 3 were shown the door obviously means The Board supported their dubious actions. Not. Am I missing something here?

 

[strider]

I might just put this here

• http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...l/news-story/2eafa542da693abc0209db825967e525

f**k the NRL's eyes!!!!

 

[strider]

Exactly and the fact that all 3 were shown the door obviously means The Board supported their dubious actions. Not. Am I missing something here?

Well I don't know if you can straight up say they were pissed off cos they were dodgy ... though obviously none of us know what happens behind closed doors

Perhaps Nolan just chose to leave???

I'd say Sewards complete and utter cock up of Foran and Hoppa's deals (and christ knows what else) might have been more a part of him getting the ass

Irvine - I wouldn't have a f**kin clue who that merkin is

 

[T.S Quint]

Exactly and the fact that all 3 were shown the door obviously means The Board supported their dubious actions. Not. Am I missing something here?

Seward and Irvine were shown the door.
I think Nolan may have left of his own accord.

 

[ash411]

Well I don't know if you can straight up say they were pissed off cos they were dodgy ... though obviously none of us know what happens behind closed doors

Perhaps Nolan just chose to leave???

I'd say Sewards complete and utter c**k up of Foran and Hoppa's deals (and christ knows what else) might have been more a part of him getting the ass

Irvine - I wouldn't have a f**kin clue who that merkin is

Football Operations guy, right?

 

[Gazzamatta]

Seward and Irvine were shown the door.
I think Nolan may have left of his own accord.

Yep and the cry from the bleachers was heard by one and all. Nobody could understand why we didnt work harder to keep Nolan. I think we now know why?

 

[IFR33K]

Yep and the cry from the bleachers was heard by one and all. Nobody could understand why we didnt work harder to keep Nolan. I think we now know why?

Apparently nolans kids and their families were based in QLD, and nolans wife wanted to head back home.

 

[Jake the snake]

Here's a napkin for you, merkin.
View attachment 8616

Classic lol

 

[Gazzamatta]

Apparently nolans kids and their families were based in QLD, and nolans wife wanted to head back home.

Yep. Apparently.