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Eels Salary Cap Mk V

Twizzle

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If you're the Chairman the buck stops with yourself. If you did not know, then you should have.

End of argument.
 

ash411

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If you're the Chairman the buck stops with yourself. If you did not know, then you should have.

End of argument.
Never a truer word spoken. And if he was as he claimed "a figurehead" and didn't have anything to do with the running of the club (paraphrasing) then what's the point of having a chairman at all? If the chairman isn't across all aspects of the business, and knows what's going on, then they shouldn't be there.
 

Gronk

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If you're the Chairman the buck stops with yourself. If you did not know, then you should have.

End of argument.
Agree and embarking on an Abbott/KRudd interview in a deluded attempt to "tell the truth" will only make him look more the fool and damage the club that he claims he loves.
 

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Even if Sharpie Shultz didn't know what going on(laughable i know) he was the one who hired Seaweed in the first place. Then after that clown was let go they get the best mate from a board member for the CEO's job. Talk about a shitfight.
 

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Never a truer word spoken. And if he was as he claimed "a figurehead" and didn't have anything to do with the running of the club (paraphrasing) then what's the point of having a chairman at all? If the chairman isn't across all aspects of the business, and knows what's going on, then they shouldn't be there.
Not defending Sharpy but you are slightly confusing the role of CEO and Chairman.

A good chair leaves the day to day shit to the CEO and focuses more the strategic direction of the business. That's what's supposed to happen in well run organisations but who the f**k knows what was happening at our shitty club.

However the magnitude of what Sharpy is claiming he had no knowledge of is something that would be quite hard to hide from a good chair.
 

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Not defending Sharpy but you are slightly confusing the role of CEO and Chairman.

A good chair leaves the day to day shit to the CEO and focuses more the strategic direction of the business. That's what's supposed to happen in well run organisations but who the f**k knows what was happening at our shitty club.

However the magnitude of what Sharpy is claiming he had no knowledge of is something that would be quite hard to hide from a good chair.
I'm not saying he should be doing to day to day work, but he should have knowledge of what is going on. It's not like a good chairman couldn't both focus on strategy and be briefed on the day to day operations, so they at least have a clue what is happening, after all, if for example, one of his employees starts massively cheating the cap. he's gonna go down for it too.

He didn't know because he didn't want to know. Assuming he's telling the truth about not knowing.
 

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Not defending Sharpy but you are slightly confusing the role of CEO and Chairman.

A good chair leaves the day to day shit to the CEO and focuses more the strategic direction of the business. That's what's supposed to happen in well run organisations but who the f**k knows what was happening at our shitty club.

However the magnitude of what Sharpy is claiming he had no knowledge of is something that would be quite hard to hide from a good chair.
Just shows how stupid it is that we continually vote in unqualified people to run the club. There should be mandatory requirements related to being a director that have no membership prerequisite.
 

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Not defending Sharpy but you are slightly confusing the role of CEO and Chairman.

A good chair leaves the day to day shit to the CEO and focuses more the strategic direction of the business. That's what's supposed to happen in well run organisations but who the f**k knows what was happening at our shitty club.

However the magnitude of what Sharpy is claiming he had no knowledge of is something that would be quite hard to hide from a good chair.

Hence the problem with voting in an ex-player with zero experience in running a gabillion dollar business. How dumb is he to think that he could do the job and how dumb are members for voting him in ?
 

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I'm not saying he should be doing to day to day work, but he should have knowledge of what is going on. It's not like a good chairman couldn't both focus on strategy and be briefed on the day to day operations, so they at least have a clue what is happening, after all, if for example, one of his employees starts massively cheating the cap. he's gonna go down for it too.

He didn't know because he didn't want to know. Assuming he's telling the truth about not knowing.
I did say that this is something he should have known about and agree with any criticism of him.

I just suggested that you were confusing the role of chair and CEO. I still think you are.
 

Gary Gutful

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Just shows how stupid it is that we continually vote in unqualified people to run the club. There should be mandatory requirements related to being a director that have no membership prerequisite.

Hence the problem with voting in an ex-player with zero experience in running a gabillion dollar business. How dumb is he to think that he could do the job and how dumb are members for voting him in ?

Yep, at the risk of getting Jake all fired up this is completely true.

Being a chair of a multimillion dollar business requires a level of skill and experience that is typically beyond a bozo ex-footballer.
 

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I did say that this is something he should have known about and agree with any criticism of him.

I just suggested that you were confusing the role of chair and CEO. I still think you are.

You are right of course. There is no way that a bank Chairman would be aware of rate collusion by his futures staff or systematic up-selling of financial services by unqualified financial advisers. However in our case we are talking about a small organisation of management staff of maybe a dozen. It's hard to maintain your position under those circumstances.
 

ash411

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I did say that this is something he should have known about and agree with any criticism of him.

I just suggested that you were confusing the role of chair and CEO. I still think you are.
I'm really not.

The Salary cap is not a mundane detail, he should be aware of it. It's probably the most important aspect of running an NRL team, as your teams success is tied to it. Look at what happens when you breach it.

If they were intentionally trying to subvert him and hid any dodginess from him that's a different story, but my feeling is that they didn't have to, cause he probably didn't even bother looking anyway.
 

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I'm really not.

The Salary cap is not a mundane detail, he should be aware of it. It's probably the most important aspect of running an NRL team, as your teams success is tied to it. Look at what happens when you breach it.

If they were intentionally trying to subvert him and hid any dodginess from him that's a different story, but my feeling is that they didn't have to, cause he probably didn't even bother looking anyway.

Agree with your second two paragraphs (I think we have both said as much at least three times) but it isn't evidence to support your first sentence.
 

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AUGUST 7 2016 - 1:17AM

Parramatta mayor John Chedid's expensive week after missing house revealed

James Robertson


A Sydney mayor facing an investigation over an apparently improper home renovation has also lost two jobs worth up to $175,000 and been ordered by his own council to shut down works on his home.

Fairfax Media published pictures of the Oatlands home of local Liberal player and emeritus mayor of Parramatta Council, John Chedid. They showed construction work seemed to far exceed the "alterations and additions" approved as there was no house left.

Expensive week: John Chedid has lost income worth up to $175,000 and been ordered to stop work on his home. Photo: Gene Ramirez GRA

A week from hell followed for Cr Chedid. On Monday, he was part of a clean out at Eels headquarters and sacked as the CEO of the Parramatta Eels' controversial Premiership Club, depriving him of a salary of $150,000 a year.

Mr Chedid was deprived of more income, up to $25,000, after he stood aside from a board designed to advise the council through the year-long process of merging with several neighbouring councils.

The construction site at Mr Chedid's home. Photo: Supplied

"I agree that it is in the best interests of the council for Mr Chedid to stand aside," said the administrator of Parramatta Council, Amanda Chadwick.

Cr Chedid declined to comment. The council said that, after a meeting with Ms Chadwick, Cr Chedid had chosen to stand aside while the investigation into his "renovations" ran its course.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/parramatta...05-gqmc80.html
 

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