F@ck we were good tonight!

[Suitman]

Geez Suity ...](*,)

It's the common consensus around here though, isn't it?

Suity

 

[eel01s]

Funny no mention of all the soft burt errors that led up to all the tries we conceded.

Yeah I thought that might have been it for Burt in first grade after those errors in the first half, but he did right those wrongs IMO.

Burt will struggle to play in firsts when Blair, Sio, Loko, W. Tonga are all available.

 

[Gronk]

It's the common consensus around here though, isn't it?

Suity

What are you saying that we can't be happy that we won our 8th game in two years because some may not support the coach like you ? WTF ?

 

[born an eel]

It's the common consensus around here though, isn't it?

Suity

I think you will find that the common consensus is that if Kearney wants to play his "structured" style of play we wont go anywhere but if he lets them play like last night he may have a future.

Will he adapt the style of play for the rest of the year or will he go back to his prefered style?

 

[Suitman]

I think you will find that the common consensus is that if Kearney wants to play his "structured" style of play we wont go anywhere but if he lets them play like last night he may have a future.

Will he adapt the style of play for the rest of the year or will he go back to his prefered style?

That's the thing. Does Kearney have a 'preferred" style? Who would know?
I think he'd just like us to do the basics right, but there have been more than a few occassions this season where we have been able to do both. Last night was a mixture. Difference being we did it for 80, not 20.

Suity

 

[The Engineers Room]

We did enough to win. They will need to improve and look at what is working in attack from last night.

 

[yy_cheng]

we have always been a confidence team. Sandow and Roberts is no different.

For us, when things stick, things stick. It gets their adrenalin up and they play off instinct.

I agree we need structure in particular in defense but not structured to the point it hobbles your players.

Our defensive structure is what we need to work on more.

It will get better with Benny back and Reni. However, someone has to teach Sandow to change his tackling technique. He did some really good around the legs tackles.

They changed Fui's tackling style and he hasn't been suspended for ages.

 

[The EELiminator]

I think you will find that the common consensus is that if Kearney wants to play his "structured" style of play we wont go anywhere but if he lets them play like last night he may have a future.

Will he adapt the style of play for the rest of the year or will he go back to his prefered style?

one works the other doesnt all he has to do is look at the tapes

 

[barney gumble]

Difference being we did it for 80, not 20.

Suity

80 minutes, really? The game I was at was 20 to 6 at half time and the team got booed off.

We did get the mixture right for 40 minutes though, and it was the important 40 minutes. Can't be giving teams 14 point head starts.

 

[Suitman]

80 minutes, really? The game I was at was 20 to 6 at half time and the team got booed off.

We did get the mixture right for 40 minutes though, and it was the important 40 minutes. Can't be giving teams 14 point head starts.

We did well to keep their lead to 14 considering they had 65% of the ball in the first half.
I say 80 because generally, the first half defensive effort was excellent.

Suity

 

[hineyrulz]

We did well to keep their lead to 14 considering they had 65% of the ball in the first half.
I say 80 because generally, the first half defensive effort was excellent.

Suity

Agreed, they has 68% of the ball in the first half and completed 21 of 22 of their sets. To be only down by 14 at half time is what one us the game. We did play for the full 80mins IMHO.

 

[Gronk]

Agreed, they has 68% of the ball in the first half and completed 21 of 22 of their sets. To be only down by 14 at half time is what one us the game. We did play for the full 80mins IMHO.

The 68% possession occurred because of :-

(a) Carney's ability to get repeat sets with his kicking game, and equally
(b) Our lack of discipline by dropping the pill and giving away silly penalties.

The 6-20 scoreline was as much our own fault as it was the Sharks faultless game IMHO.

 

[hineyrulz]

The 68% possession occurred because of :-

(a) Carney's ability to get repeat sets with his kicking game, and equally
(b) Our lack of discipline by dropping the pill and giving away silly penalties.

The 6-20 scoreline was as much our own fault as it was the Sharks faultless game IMHO.

True but if we hadn't of defended our butts of we would have been down by 30 at least. They had a dig for the whole game IMO. They weren't perfect but they did have a dig for the whole 80.

 

[Bigfella]

Yeah I thought that might have been it for Burt in first grade after those errors in the first half, but he did right those wrongs IMO.

Burt will struggle to play in firsts when Blair, Sio, Loko, W. Tonga are all available.

I agree about him making it up. They were very good tries he scored.

The pass from Hayne was not easy to take and required some finishing. That was an astonishing piece of skill. There was no real overlap. He just made everyone pause momentarily and used that time and space to beat the defence with the speed and accuacy of the pass. He basically created a non existent overlap.

One of the cameras couldn't follow it so Burt did well.

The goal kicking was top shelf too.

Big chance that Morgan plays left Wing when tonga returns though surely?

 

[Forty20]

We made something around 107 more tackles than the Sharkies in the first half, which makes the second half effort pretty huge.

This is the sort of game we have been looking for to build on. We need to bottle the aggression and commitment in the ruck from last night (massive shout out to Blair here, angry merkins for life), add a dash more discipline and the rest of our game develops naturally.

We saw, IMO, the best combination of Hayne and Sandow so far last night where neither tried to overplay their hands and subsequently played with a much better flow. The one simple improvement with Sandow is that he now takes on the line with speed. This is the rock that we need to build our attack on. When Sandow zips around, Reni, Paulo, Smith and Ryan all become legitimate attacking options against a sliding or retreating defence. This leads to faster rucks, offloads, linebreaks and ultimately points and in general snowballs our attack.

His clearance kicks still feel like they are either excellent stabs into the corner or rushed punts straight down the gullets of the back 3 but our 5th tackle rucks can often be guilty of putting pressure on him.

Hayne and Roberts were quite simple down the left, working mostly on the second man play but that was plenty, as it opened up the option for Roberts to run...which is pretty much universally agreed upon as his strongest card.

Obviously the backs and forwards were crucial in the victory but everyone puts the spotlight on the million odd dollars we have playing in the 1,6 and 7.

To put a bit of a damper on it, as OMC has roughly mentioned elsewhere, Kearney needs to uncork this bottle before round 10+ of the competition.

 

[zipzip man]

Burt goes nowhere in my opinion. He has done enough in the last few games and his kicking has been a bonus.

We still have a few mistakes in us at crucial times that we really need to address. I'm puzzled with the kick Ben Roberts put in with about 6 mins to go, we're only leading by 8 at the time and he put a kick in on the 4th near their line and it didn't look like a try and get a repeat set kick, it just gave them possesition.... I would have been dirty if they go the legnth of the field and score and then get themselves back in the game with like 3-4 minutes still left. While on it I'd like to see us try and get more repeat sets and apply pressure we seem to get near the line and go for the hail mary.

We were on the attack in that first half and Ben Smith dropped it on his first touch not far from their line. I don't like some of the shockers that J Paulo gives either... I'd like to see him just run the ball, he has some good footwotk at the line and maybe can create from there - but I hate when he passes the ball, I still ahve nightmares of that pass from Dummy half against the Raiders (I think) when we were attacking the line and it was like 2nd tackle... he reminds me so much of Feleti when he runs.

 

[SDM]

Every time we win it will be because Kearney allows them to play their natural game that week....

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I can't argue with that. He has the agro of Hodges and the defence of Cooper. He defensive reads last night were great. Loved the way he menaced his opp number. He's a long term centre now and Willie, Loko and Co will need to fight for the other spot.

I reckon Willie Tonga is still the number 1 centre at our club, and he will remain so at least until his contract is up.

The others will fight for the other spot, though Blair looks like he has it well covered at the moment. It will take more than one or two shit performances (and they will happen, because he's a rookie) for him to be replaced.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Every time we win it will be because Kearney allows them to play their natural game that week....

But when we lose it will be because he made them play structured and everyone (except him) knows that doesn't work.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Impersonations of a fat kid chasing the Mr Whippy Van = 8 for 73m

Nine metres per carry is pretty good though.

We went into the game with the plan to not run at the Sharks central defence, which is why our only prop to make 100 metres was Fui, and that was only off 12 runs.

Tim Mannah made the same amount of metres as Poore, but he did it in two extra runs.