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Farah or Buderus

Hooker for game 2?

  • Farah

    Votes: 59 70.2%
  • Bunderus

    Votes: 25 29.8%

  • Total voters
    84

Misanthrope

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Why are people assuming it's either/or? Why can't we have Buderus start where his defensive grit and intensity can staunch any early Queensland offence before injecting Farah from the bench where his superior attacking abilities can shine against a tiring Maroons' defence?
 

league

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LOL. The NSW selectors really do leave me in a state of confusion. Their selection policy needs to be reviewed.

Kurt Gidley was used in Origin 1 as a player to come on the field and replace Buderus as a Hooker. Kurt Gidley has NEVER played in the dummy-half role. Kurt Gidley is a specialist fullback. Never ever has Gidley played as a hooker. Gidley came on and looked lost. Also, our halves pairing were Mullen and Anasta, with the obvious weak link being the NSW kicking game. The best dummy-half in the NRL (available for NSW selection) who's kicking game is also second to none was left out of the side. Buderus had an attempt at one kick, and kicked it out on the full :crazy:

If NSW wanted someone to replace Danny Buderus at the 60th min mark, why on earth would they replace a hooker with a specialist fullback? Wouldn't it be easier to do a straight position swap?? (hooker for hooker) It seems to me that NSW must do all it can to pick as many Roosters and Knights players possible.....

More to the point, Farah MUST be the starting hooker, but there is no way Laurie big nose Daley and co will even consider dropping Buderus to the bench. Farah adds so much more to the NSW team that I bet Meninga and co will be praying Farah is left out......

Hope dies last.......
 

league

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Blues may beef up bench

NSW are considering employing a tactic they have never used before in Origin - four forwards on the bench.
Selector Laurie Daley admitted yesterday the panel would discuss the prospect with coach Graham Murray, following the injury to utility Kurt Gidley in the game-one defeat last Wednesday.
While Wests Tigers hooker Robbie Farah is favoured as the bench option, with Rooster Craig Wing in the running as well, selectors will also discuss picking a back-rower who could shift to the back line if a player is injured.
That would bring the likes of Greg Bird, Reni Maitua, Ryan Hoffman and Ben Creagh into strong contention.
While it is clearly only a matter of time before Farah becomes a NSW player, his inexperience outside of hooker may cost him at this stage.
All four forward options can play in the back row or centre, and in the case of Maitua and Bird, have played five-eighth in the NRL.
Wary of the punishment dished out by the Queensland forwards in game one, Daley admitted the option would give NSW extra grunt, only half-jokingly saying they might "look to bash them" at Telstra Stadium.
"That's something we could look at," Daley said. "It's something we'd like to discuss - do we look for a Gidley-type player or go for another forward? That'll be something I'd have to discuss with Muz and the other guys."
Under the four-man interchange rule, which came into effect in 1989, no NSW side has ever entered a game without a back or a hooker on the bench in a State of Origin contest.
What also needs to be considered is whether Murray wants incumbent hooker Danny Buderus to play an 80-minute role. One thing that seems clear is that the selectors are looking for more aggression from their players, although Daley made it clear it needed to be controlled.
"You've got to be careful with so-called aggression," Daley said. "You can't be giving away penalties all the time. You've got to be controlled in everything you do."
Murray added: "Back at home, we have to show a bit of that passion early in the football match."
Selectors also look likely to persist with Newcastle's young halfback Jarrod Mullen, although a calf injury has him in doubt for Saturday night's clash with the Roosters. Daley said Mullen had responded well to his horror five days, which included a loss in his first Origin and a record defeat against Brisbane for the Knights at the same ground last Sunday.
"I remember my first Origin, I got smashed 36-6 and I thought, 'I don't belong here'," he said. "But the second game was better, and then the third game was better again."

http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/origin/blues-may-beef-up-bench/2007/05/29/1180205252441.html

Why on earth are they doing all they can to keep the Dally M medal leader out of the side??? Wouldn't it be to NSW's benefit if they choose Farah???:oops:
 

Papa_smurf

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farah is the better play and is in form

buderus has experience and sh1t on a stick


bedsy is only getn picked cos the selectors dont have the balls to dump the nsw captain

bedsy should retire from rep footy, effective immediately, 2 rectify this injustice
 

league

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Papa_smurf said:
farah is the better play and is in form

buderus has experience and sh1t on a stick


bedsy is only getn picked cos the selectors dont have the balls to dump the nsw captain

bedsy should retire from rep footy, effective immediately, 2 rectify this injustice

Isn't that the quote by that soccer dude, Valdano on Liverpool F.C and Chelsea?:lol:
 

perverse

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didn't anyone notice our defence in game 1 when buderus went off the field?

if you don't think he's an integral part of the NSW team, you're deluded. farah will get his time.
 

dinko

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Dilmah said:

That was not his point, the point of his post was that if you were going to replace bedsy with gidley at hooker then it was a waste as farah is 5000 times the player gidley will ever be.
 

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Dilmah said:
Doesn't matter if it was his point or not. It was incorrect.

Sir, where was I incorrect? I stated that replacing Buderus (hooker) with Gidley (Fullback) was the wrong selection. Wouldn't it be easier to replace Buderus at the 60th min mark with a specialist hooker, and not a fullback?? A hooker that also offers so much more than Buderus???
 

osg

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Farah..... and the thought of that as a qld'r scares me........:shock: Sublime form this year so far, the form hooker in the world obviously.
 

TooheysNew

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league said:
Sir, where was I incorrect? I stated that replacing Buderus (hooker) with Gidley (Fullback) was the wrong selection. Wouldn't it be easier to replace Buderus at the 60th min mark with a specialist hooker, and not a fullback?? A hooker that also offers so much more than Buderus???
The part where you said Kidley was a specialist fullback, and the part where you said he had never played hooker. Neither is really true.
 

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Dilmah said:
The part where you said Kidley was a specialist fullback, and the part where you said he had never played hooker. Neither is really true.

So what position does he specialise in? Or is he a Jack of all Trades - Master of None??? If so, he looked VERY much out of place in Origin 1.........
 

TooheysNew

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He can play fullback, and play well - but he is not a specialist fullback.

He can also play right through the backline, lock, and hooker at a pinch.

He looked out of place in origin 1 because his coach had no idea how to utilize him best.
 

Grail

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Buderus' service from Dummy Half in the first game was a tad slow for mine, and was part of the reason why the NSW forwards were dominated. By the time they got the ball, the Defense was already in their face.

Buderus has been a great player for a long time, but really the team needs to be picked to win, and then a captain picked from that team. Buderus shouldn't be in the team because he is no longer the premier 9 that NSW has available. Farrah has surpased him dramatically this year and should get the nod.

If NSW had won the first game, then I'd say yeah, leave Buderus in the team, let this year be his swansong. But we lost, and it is now time for Buderus to "step aside" for the better player.
 

Ridders

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i actually thought he went well in origin 1. He was great in defense and his service from hooker wasn't too bad. Would really love to see the both in the team, as farah from the bench can add a bit of utility in terms of play-making, which he does for the tigers every week. Except if he were to come from the bench, i'd wanna see him used more than gidley was in SOOI.
 

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