Fiji World Cup Stories

[Fufu Andronez]

Kem Seru from the dragons should be part of the squad to you'd think.

 

[deluded pom?]

That's what I was getting at hutch. Less automatics and more qualifiers.

 

[Evil Homer]

That's what I was getting at hutch. Less automatics and more qualifiers.

That's why I don't have any issue with the Italian team, guys like Minichiello, Mantellato and Ciraldo went to play in the qualifiers in Serbia and Russia and helped the nation to earn their spot. Proper qualifiers like in 2008 are a must next time, and there are probably twice as many nations that could be involved now compared to then.

 

[RedVee]

That's why I don't have any issue with the Italian team, guys like Minichiello, Mantellato and Ciraldo went to play in the qualifiers in Serbia and Russia and helped the nation to earn their spot. Proper qualifiers like in 2008 are a must next time, and there are probably twice as many nations that could be involved now compared to then.

Agree.
One Eg, Canada has emerged since the last qualifiers. A Canada/Jamaica/US plus Trinidad & Tobago, if they get up to speed, makes a better qualifying pool next time around.

 

[Evil Homer]

Agree.
One Eg, Canada has emerged since the last qualifiers. A Canada/Jamaica/US plus Trinidad & Tobago, if they get up to speed, makes a better qualifying pool next time around.

If we're using the same criteria as last time (affiliate RLEF members) then the European qualifying pool has already doubled and will probably have tripled by the time of the next qualifiers, not to mention that most of the automatic qualifiers last time will hopefully be required to qualify. We could realistically be looking at 15+ nations in the European qualifying tournament next time.

 

[bender]

If we're using the same criteria as last time (affiliate RLEF members) then the European qualifying pool has already doubled and will probably have tripled by the time of the next qualifiers, not to mention that most of the automatic qualifiers last time will hopefully be required to qualify. We could realistically be looking at 15+ nations in the European qualifying tournament next time.

If we assume that there are 16 teams wanting to qualify from Europe, what would everyone say is the best method of qualification. Do you think there should be one European Cup style qualifying tournament or do you think it would be better to have regional qualifying over a longer period presumably staggered towards the stronger nations.

 

[RedVee]

If we're using the same criteria as last time (affiliate RLEF members) then the European qualifying pool has already doubled and will probably have tripled by the time of the next qualifiers, not to mention that most of the automatic qualifiers last time will hopefully be required to qualify. We could realistically be looking at 15+ nations in the European qualifying tournament next time.

That's great.
I think there is a requirement on the standard of local competition? If so, to get such growth is hugely impressive.

Hopefully, Africa & Mid East will have more entrants eligible for quals next time around, as well as a couple of Asian nations (hopefully).

 

[deal.with.it]

We should also work to our strengths and not over extend the limited resources we have.
A canada, USA, Jamaica, South Africa pool with 1 qual and 1 repechage.
Then in the pacific, bump up the number of quals from the pool and have 1 repechage spot.
As for Europe, should every nation be up for qualification, minus England?

 

[Evil Homer]

^I reckon the semi-finalists from the previous tournament should qualify automatically, and the rest should go through qualifying.

If we assume that there are 16 teams wanting to qualify from Europe, what would everyone say is the best method of qualification. Do you think there should be one European Cup style qualifying tournament or do you think it would be better to have regional qualifying over a longer period presumably staggered towards the stronger nations.

If there's 15 teams in qualifying (assuming England qualify automatically) then there should be 3 seeded groups of 5, with the top two qualifying from each, similar to the FIFA World Cup http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)

 

[deal.with.it]

^^ I'd be happy with that.
So lets just take a stab and say that Aus, NZ, Eng and PNG make the semi finals (it could very well be Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, France instead).
On current RLIF rankings, what would the pools look like?
I like the idea of 3 pools of 5, maybe 2 qualifiers and 1 to the repechage from each pool.

 

[Springs]

I'm not going to keep repeating the same thing over and over. If you think having players such as Sutton and barba or even hayne play for Fiji every four years they miss out in the Australian squad only to switch back to nsw/qld and Australia in between world cups is good for the sport then good luck to you. But it is not the best way to develop our sport for the future. Not picking on Fiji who have actually been one of the better countries at developing rugby league over the last decade, other countries have been far more guilty of waiting until Australia and nz pick their squads before feeding on the scraps and it has backfired (think tonga in 2008).
Perhaps we aren't ready for a one nation for life rule just yet which has worked so well in union and soccer. Maybe we should allow a switch with an enforced stand down period but the constant switching of nations is nothing but a quick fix which holds us back in the long run. I can't deny that mini and petero havnt helped Italy and Fijian rugby league over the last couple of years so there is merit in allowing players one switch.

I will support international rugby league no matter what as it is my passion but it is damn frustrating that previous mistakes havnt been rectified and our sport is not even close to reaching its potential.

If you are happy with the way things are going then that's great, I want more.

lol I wish. You repeat yourself over and over in every single new thread,

 

[hutch]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/...ens/story-e6frf3ou-1226694457439#.Ugh_FaYazCQ

JARRYD Hayne has placed himself on standby to represent Fiji at the end-of-year World Cup, raising the prospect of switching allegiance during talks with Australian coach Tim Sheens.
Hayne has been in touch with Fiji coach Rick Stone about representing the Bati for the first time since his life-altering 2008 World Cup campaign.
At this stage, Hayne would only look to make the change if he's overlooked for the 24-man Kangaroos squad that will tour the UK and France in October.
Sheens spoke with Hayne earlier this week, ahead of the Parramatta superstar's return from a hamstring injury last night.
"Fiji did come up in our conversation, but my impression is that his preference is still to represent Australia," Sheens said.
"I was riding to see how his injury was and what his thoughts were about playing (in the World Cup).
"He told me he was making a comeback this week and wanted to be involved.
"He did mention the fact that he might like to play for Fiji, if he was wasn't selected for Australia."
Sheens would give no guarantee of Hayne's selection, but it's difficult to imagine the 17-game NSW Origin flyer missing-out if fit.
Nevertheless, insiders at Parramatta are adamant that Hayne is torn about possibly playing against Fiji.
It was during World Cup camp in Woy Woy with the Bati that Hayne found his religious calling after a turbulent year that saw him shot at in Kings Cross.
Stone revealed he'd also had several conversations with Hayne about the possibility of a second outing for Fiji.
"I've chatted with Jarryd a little bit and he is a bit torn," Stone said.
"I think he's smart enough to realise Australia has to be his first preference, but he could look to make an election change later-on if he's not picked for the Kangaroos."
Stone already has a host of talented backs to choose from, with Akuila Uate, Lote Tuqiri, Marika Koroibete and Wes Naqaima all in the selection frame.
The Knights NSW Cup coach also hopes to convince Rabbitohs star John Sutton to join the team.

 

[hutch]

lol I wish. You repeat yourself over and over in every single new thread,

Probably to correct people like you.

 

[roughyedspud]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/...ens/story-e6frf3ou-1226694457439#.Ugh_FaYazCQ

hate to say i told you so mate.....but i told you so

 

[hutch]

hate to say i told you so mate.....but i told you so

He will play for Australia, just too good to leave out these days.

 

[roughyedspud]

from a playing point of view im hope australia do select him...cos he's never done anything in a green & gold jumper lol..


the way i see it is if he's 100% fit then australia will have him....if he's not 100% fit fiji will get him..

 

[Springs]

Probably to correct people like you.

More like to whinge and whine and be negative about absolutely everything.

Hayne will play for Australia. But if he is eligible for Fiji I don't see how Uate could not be.

 

[roughyedspud]

uate should'nt be...he was'nt eligible to switch from fiji to australia because he played for fiji in the 2009 pacific cup...yet he illegally switched...


that single act rendered all the "switching" rules null & void...as a result its open season

 

[hutch]

More like to whinge and whine and be negative about absolutely everything.

Hayne will play for Australia. But if he is eligible for Fiji I don't see how Uate could not be.

It's not being negative you muppet. I just see the potential we have as an international sport and want the correct procedures put in place so we achieve it. I am completely for the international game and do my best to promote it whenever I get the chance.

As spud said, uate played tests for Fiji in the 2009 pacific cup and was then allowed to switch to Australia in 2010 before waiting 2 years. You are allowed one switch per World Cup cycle, he has already done this so shouldn't be allowed to switch again. Hayne has only played for australia this World Cup cycle and is yet to switch. But he would be allowed to if he misses out on Australia. So he will spend the final series with the Aussie train on squad (just as in 2008), but then switch to Fiji if not selected in the final 24 players. Good system hey!

 

[deal.with.it]

Isn't Uate able to swap once in a world cup cycle?
He played for Fiji, then swapped to Aus, using his "one swap" for that world cup cycle?
So he wouldn't be able to swap back, but until now he's done nothing "illegal"?