Finals schedule

[Walt Flanigan]

6052... both your scores against tigers... and also around the mark for one of your early home crowd totals.

Which home game "early" in the year might you be referring to?

 

[Raiderdave]

How the f**k would you know?

You're just throwing random claims out there to back your own position lol

youd just better hope I'm wrong you sanctimonious know it all
I will have a f**king field day with you if I'm not though

K : )

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Probably noted somewhere in this thread but in Week 2, is it Friday / Saturday night schedule?

 

[Raiderdave]

6052... both your scores against tigers... and also around the mark for one of your early home crowd totals.

and about 5 Tigers crowds this year too wanker lol

 

[Stephen Durrant]

How the f**k would you know?

You're just throwing random claims out there to back your own position lol

So lets image the Raiders play the Cowboys on lets says for arguments sake Friday night.

Then lets image that 90% of that crowd has a job. You might find about a tenth of the home regions fans being able to take a day off work to travel the 300km to make the game. Cowboys fans that were going to travel would travel either way.

You might get 10 thousand bandwagon fans and Sydney based Raiders fans like myself. Where are the rest of the numbers going to from?

Sure both teams are playing some great entertaining football but are you trying to say we are going to get at least 20k neutral fans go to the game.

Anything short of 20k neutral fans would see a crowd smaller than the home city stadium.

 

[Clifferd]

So lets image the Raiders play the Cowboys on lets says for arguments sake Friday night.

Then lets image that 90% of that crowd has a job. You might find about a tenth of the home regions fans being able to take a day off work to travel the 300km to make the game. Cowboys fans that were going to travel would travel either way.

You might get 10 thousand bandwagon fans and Sydney based Raiders fans like myself. Where are the rest of the numbers going to from?

Sure both teams are playing some great entertaining football but are you trying to say we are going to get at least 20k neutral fans go to the game.

Anything short of 20k neutral fans would see a crowd smaller than the home city stadium.

Doesn't 1/4th placed team normally get Friday night prelim?

Anyway yeah, I really doubt NRL would be that stupid to schedule that sort of scenario on a Friday night

 

[Clifferd]

hahaha
I'm sure it doesn't burn as much for me as 89 would for you ..... brother : )

Wasn't even alive then, thanks for your concern though

 

[Stephen Durrant]

Doesn't 1/4th placed team normally get Friday night prelim?

Anyway yeah, I really doubt NRL would be that stupid to schedule that sort of scenario on a Friday night

I don't know which game plays when but the NRL are stupid enough to claim that Canberra is part of the Sydney Region it is 300km away in a different state.

It is the same NRL who has rules for some teams and other rules for other teams.

So anything is possible in the NRL.

 

[JamesRustle]

Which home game "early" in the year might you be referring to?

Most humblest apologies, it was the 6015 crowd against Newcastle in round 18, 2015 and the 6717 against Panthers in round 25, 2015 that I was thinking of.

 

[Timmah]

youd just better hope I'm wrong you sanctimonious know it all
I will have a f**king field day with you if I'm not though

K : )

Awww borrowing skeepe's dictionary! Cute.

And you'll have a field day hey? Watch how many f**ks I'll give lol

Probably noted somewhere in this thread but in Week 2, is it Friday / Saturday night schedule?

Weeks 2 and 3 are Friday-Saturday nights.

So lets image the Raiders play the Cowboys on lets says for arguments sake Friday night.

Then lets image that 90% of that crowd has a job. You might find about a tenth of the home regions fans being able to take a day off work to travel the 300km to make the game. Cowboys fans that were going to travel would travel either way.

You might get 10 thousand bandwagon fans and Sydney based Raiders fans like myself. Where are the rest of the numbers going to from?

Sure both teams are playing some great entertaining football but are you trying to say we are going to get at least 20k neutral fans go to the game.

Anything short of 20k neutral fans would see a crowd smaller than the home city stadium.

"For arguments sake" is moot and kind of negates the rest. Given the other prelim in that scenario would be in Melbourne, that game would almost certainly be played Friday night, allowing an interstate clash to be on a Saturday and attract a much higher crowd.

Even then - the moment the crowd clicks past 27k (which it surely would), the NRL's decision (given its their match to do with what it likes) is justified.

 

[JamesRustle]

and about 5 Tigers crowds this year too wanker lol

Probably. Feltcher lol

 

[Stephen Durrant]

Awww borrowing skeepe's dictionary! Cute.

And you'll have a field day hey? Watch how many f**ks I'll give lol

Weeks 2 and 3 are Friday-Saturday nights.

"For arguments sake" is moot and kind of negates the rest. Given the other prelim in that scenario would be in Melbourne, that game would almost certainly be played Friday night, allowing an interstate clash to be on a Saturday and attract a much higher crowd.

Even then - the moment the crowd clicks past 27k (which it surely would), the NRL's decision (given its their match to do with what it likes) is justified.

In saying this are you also conceding that IF the crowd is less than 27k then the NRLs unjust policy is just wrong as their sole justifications for the unjust is crowd numbers.

Furthermore, your defence of the indefensible based solely on the fact that they are the rules without any questioning of if such rules are right or wrong is also wrong by definition.

Should the crowd be smaller than 27k that is.

 

[Timmah]

In saying this are you also conceding that IF the crowd is less than 27k then the NRLs unjust policy is just wrong as their sole justifications for the unjust is crowd numbers.

Furthermore, your defence of the indefensible based solely on the fact that they are the rules without any questioning of if such rules are right or wrong is also wrong by definition.

Should the crowd be smaller than 27k that is.

Given prelims drawing below 30k is relatively uncommon (Storm @ AAMI Park aside), I can't see that would be the case.

And besides, it's not defending the indefensible, the NRL are free to make the decision where they play their games during the finals, in the same way clubs are able to decide where their matches are played during the regular season.

 

[Stephen Durrant]

Given prelims drawing below 30k is relatively uncommon (Storm @ AAMI Park aside), I can't see that would be the case.

And besides, it's not defending the indefensible, the NRL are free to make the decision where they play their games during the finals, in the same way clubs are able to decide where their matches are played during the regular season.

So that's a no then you're not capable off conceding the policy is wrong if they don't get a crowd greater than GIO's capacity.

 

[JamesRustle]

How many fans will miss out on entry to GIO this Sat?

 

[Stephen Durrant]

How many fans will miss out on entry to GIO this Sat?

The issue is about week 3 and that 13 teams get to play in their home city and 3 teams don't get the same advantage.

The only reason for taking this from these 3 teams is to get a bigger crowd then if they don't get said crowd does that not void the justification for disadvantaging those three teams.

 

[JamesRustle]

The issue is about week 3 and that 13 teams get to play in their home city and 3 teams don't get the same advantage.

The only reason for taking this from these 3 teams is to get a bigger crowd then if they don't get said crowd does that not void the justification for disadvantaging those three teams.

It's not fair, but if raiders play in their first prelim in a long time and the crowd doesn't exceed 30k I'd be shocked.

It's not fair, but there's sweet fa you can do about it in the short term and the continual flogging of a dead horse wears thin quickly in here and leads to niggling posts to get a rise.

 

[Timmah]

I love that this is somehow a justice issue.

You'd also be hard pressed finding Panthers fans who consider Allianz a "home city", btw

 

[Stephen Durrant]

It's not fair, but if raiders play in their first prelim in a long time and the crowd doesn't exceed 30k I'd be shocked.

It's not fair, but there's sweet fa you can do about it in the short term and the continual flogging of a dead horse wears thin quickly in here and leads to niggling posts to get a rise.

Maybe you're right that nothing can be done in the short term but this does not change the fact it is wrong and should be changed and the sooner the better.

Thereare only a few deluded ones on here who can't see that it is wrong.

One of the biggest problems with the game at the moment is the inconsistencies across the nrl and this is yet another example of such.

A properly run competition should be equitable for all teams and players across all aspects of the competition. Without this the integrity of competition in comprimised.

I know this is just never going to happen but we can always dream of a fair competition for all teams.

 

[Stephen Durrant]

I love that this is somehow a justice issue.

You'd also be hard pressed finding Panthers fans who consider Allianz a "home city", btw

When did Penrith become independent of Sydney? When did Penrith become a new state outside of NSW?

I don't deny that Penrith should be able to play in their own ground this week.

I also haven't been blindly depending NRL policy.