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Finals Week 2: Sharks vs Panthers

OldPanther

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If Hook was the reason to keep these boring players. Wouldn't no hook mean these boring guys go and players with flair comeback into the squad?

Well we are seeing guys like Cleary play with a bit more flair. His kicking game is more expansive for a start. The players might not be Moylan type x factor but they are now starting to play to their instincts more over time.
 

franklin2323

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Well we are seeing guys like Cleary play with a bit more flair. His kicking game is more expansive for a start. The players might not be Moylan type x factor but they are now starting to play to their instincts more over time.

Is that new coach or stuff he learnt at SOO? We all agree Moylan gets to play more his natural game at Sharks correct? I say yes..

Maloney has earnt more drop outs this year than Moylan has. So was it just the guys weren't good more so then just boring tactics?

Look at Flegg probably only said hi to hook if anything. So haven't been 'ruined' yet they have the 8th best attack in the comp despite running 3rd. So I dare say Gus and co have had plenty to do with the boring players
 

betcats

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Is that new coach or stuff he learnt at SOO? We all agree Moylan gets to play more his natural game at Sharks correct? I say yes..

Maloney has earnt more drop outs this year than Moylan has. So was it just the guys weren't good more so then just boring tactics?

Look at Flegg probably only said hi to hook if anything. So haven't been 'ruined' yet they have the 8th best attack in the comp despite running 3rd. So I dare say Gus and co have had plenty to do with the boring players

What boring players?

It was a boring game plan mate not the players. If you cannot see the difference in how we have played the last two weeks and how we played under you’re not trying.
 

mxlegend99

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https://www.skysports.com/rugby-lea...attle-over-contract-dispute-with-leeds-rhinos

If this is was true. Why not sign the 6 month deal Hardaker did?
So your evidence no one wanted him is clubs fighting over him?

From the man himself a couple of weeks before leaving:

James Segeyaro opens up on his future at the Panthers
JUNE 11, 2016

JAMES Segeyaro picked up the phone nine days ago and went to make the call that would have ended his NRL career.

“I was calling an English Super League club to tell them I was coming,’’ the Penrith hooker said.

“That I would take their deal. But then I hung up. I had second thoughts and decided I needed the weekend to think on it.’’

Breaking his silence on his dumping to reserve grade, the infamous Chinese dinner that saw him cautioned by the NSW Police and his future, Segeyaro revealed he almost quit the NRL after being told he would not be offered a new contract by the Panthers for next year.

“I wasn’t sleeping,’’ Segeyaro said.

“I was told I wouldn’t be at the Panthers next year and I was thinking about it every night. The opportunity came up to go overseas and I almost took it. A very good club called me personally and offered me a very good deal. I was so close to going. Last Friday I was ready to make that call but then I sat down over the weekend and did a three page list of pros and cons.

“But the bottom line is I am not finished here. I have a massive burning desire to play at least another 100 games here and become Queensland’s next best hooker.’’

In a candid interview just two weeks after being dropped by coach Anthony Griffin, the 25-year-old admitted he would leave Penrith at the end of the year with the club in the market for a straight up-and-down hooker to play within a strict on-field structure.

“He (Griffin) sat me down a couple of weeks ago and told me the team was going another way next year,’’ Segeyaro said.

“He told me he wanted to bring young blokes through. He wants the team to play a certain way.

“He was getting the completion rate he was aiming for when I was out with a broken arm and then he wasn’t when I came back. He wants to use one hooker and play a very structured powered game. He wants his hooker to play straight off the ground.’’

Segeyaro is sensational — not structured. When at his best, the former Cowboy is an 85kg stick of line-destructing dynamite and he now needs to find a team that wants fireworks.

“I am willing to play how he (Griffin) wants for the rest of the year,’’ Segeyaro said.

“But I am more of a runner. I know I need to work on getting myself into the game but I am a dominate runner and if I see something then I am going to back myself. Sometimes it comes off, sometimes it doesn’t, but I need to trust my instincts. I feel that I can lift a game and that is what I try to do, even if I might push a pass sometimes.

Segeyaro denied he had fallen out with Griffin — or anyone else at the club.

“There were never any blues at the club,’’ Segeyaro said

“None at all. Any rumours about me and Hook not getting on are complete rubbish. I will tell you that straight to your face. I am 100 per cent committed to the Panthers for the rest of the year. I have invested a lot of time into this place and I want to finish well. I will do everything I can in my power to get back in that team and be part of that 17. I am fully committed to the boys and to the coach. I want success for this club. I am focused on playing good in reserve grade and forcing my way back in.’’

Segeyaro also opened up on his infamous dinner with Corey Norman, Junior Paulo and a posse police allege are notorious underworld figures.

“I had no idea who they were,’’ Segeyaro said.

“I met Corey, who is my good friend, for dinner and he bumped into some blokes he knew and they offered to shout us dinner. We only talked footy and for anyone to say we were match fixing or anything like that couldn’t be further off the mark.’’
https://outline.com/EUM7MG

The formatting is stuffed. But he confirms that Hook wasnt interested in a Hooker like him.
 
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franklin2323

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What boring players?

It was a boring game plan mate not the players. If you cannot see the difference in how we have played the last two weeks and how we played under you’re not trying.

Watch the game v Dragons in Round 12 and the game on the weekend. Not much has changed... Next year after a full off season we will see a whole team.

My point is Luai aside most players are the same style right down to Flegg. So who says we still don't let the guys we did?

Gus clearly has a type of player he likes. Just needs a coach to get the best out of that style of player
 

betcats

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Looks like a good decision to punt Seggy tbh. Making mistakes off the bench, surprisingly he turned out to be nothing special. I think it probably has a lot to do with his off field application, he has the physical attributes to be one of the best in the game.

In regards to Moylan, he 'allegedly' failed a drug test. But I have it from good sources on here that Hook put that substance in front of him & pushed his head into it ensuring there was no possible way he could avoid some of it entering his nasal passage.

Who told you he allegedly failed a drug test? The nrl keeps a first failure a secret anyway if it did happen.
 

betcats

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Watch the game v Dragons in Round 12 and the game on the weekend. Not much has changed... Next year after a full off season we will see a whole team.

My point is Luai aside most players are the same style right down to Flegg. So who says we still don't let the guys we did?

Gus clearly has a type of player he likes. Just needs a coach to get the best out of that style of player

I disagree, a lot has changed. What is the type of player Gus likes?

Gus signed seggy and Peachey and once declared Moylan will be a panther for life.
 
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OldPanther

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Watch the game v Dragons in Round 12 and the game on the weekend. Not much has changed... Next year after a full off season we will see a whole team.

My point is Luai aside most players are the same style right down to Flegg. So who says we still don't let the guys we did?

Gus clearly has a type of player he likes. Just needs a coach to get the best out of that style of player

Th Warriors game and Dragons games were massively different in style. Warriors game was our best win because of the style of play.
 

mxlegend99

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I have said the coach didn't want him here. You haven't shown me anything to show another club wanted him
His contract with Sharks proves that. Its not an opinion. It's a fact.

We traded him for another player on the eve of June 30. That club fought to keep him while Sharks wanted him.

You posted an article that proved he was wanted ffs.
 

franklin2323

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Th Warriors game and Dragons games were massively different in style. Warriors game was our best win because of the style of play.

What style of play?
Fell behind early. Wore the team down to get the win. Same same what was new? No set plays. Commitment was there and got the win
 

betcats

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What style of play?
Fell behind early. Wore the team down to get the win. Same same what was new? No set plays. Commitment was there and got the win

You are joking aren’t you?

The players themselves have been talking about how things are different lol god you are full of it.
 

BxTom

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You are joking aren’t you?

The players themselves have been talking about how things are different lol god you are full of it.
Where have they been talking? Also, how do you know that Griffin banned kicking?
 

franklin2323

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You are joking aren’t you?

The players themselves have been talking about how things are different lol god you are full of it.

Where? Even Ciraldo in the pressers says they haven't changed much given the timeline. The players have all said the same thing
 

franklin2323

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His contract with Sharks proves that. Its not an opinion. It's a fact.

We traded him for another player on the eve of June 30. That club fought to keep him while Sharks wanted him.

You posted an article that proved he was wanted ffs.

As if the player transfer didn't take a few weeks to sort the details out. If there was NRL interest he would of gone there
 

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