Financial fragility of the game

[franklin2323]

I thought a ratings decline would mean an increased TV deal?

No one watches TV now. So advertising dollars is less so less money to spend

 

[taste2taste]

Negotiating a new deal now is insane.

Why not wait until next year ?

Why the rush to get this deal done for less money by the end of the week?

 

[Perth Red]

Negotiating a new deal now is insane.

Why not wait until next year ?

Why the rush to get this deal done for less money by the end of the week?

I give you Peter Vlandys, a plant by the media not seen since the likes of David Gallop.

 

[betcats]

I give you Peter Vlandys, a plant by the media not seen since the likes of David Gallop.

Im sure your dislike of Vlandys has nothing to do with him killing any chance of Perth expansion anytime soon? You are as agenda driven as the media ffs.

Dave Smith liked the idea of Perth so you love him, be less obvious.

 

[Cactus]

Im sure your dislike of Vlandys has nothing to do with him killing any chance of Perth expansion anytime soon? You are as agenda driven as the media ffs.

Dave Smith liked the idea of Perth so you love him, be less obvious.

The only problem with that of course is it doesn't answer taste2s' very necessary question.

 

[franklin2323]

The only problem with that of course is it doesn't answer taste2s' very necessary question.

No guarantee it will be any better if it goes to market would be my guess. This way get 2 years then can tender the rights

 

[Cactus]

No guarantee it will be any better if it goes to market would be my guess. This way get 2 years then can tender the rights

IMO, if the deal is done with a drop this year then that tells us it was a mistake to create an extension beyond that.

 

[franklin2323]

IMO, if the deal is done with a drop this year then that tells us it was a mistake to create an extension beyond that.

For me depends on the drop. Even $200m a season over 5 years is good considering market situations

 

[flippikat]

A strong benevolent dictator is what the game has always needed, not to be run by a committee of club execs. This is going to end very badly.

Exactly. I don't know much about the workings of AFL administration (here in New Zealand, that code is just treated as an oddity), but I suspect that's how they got to where they are in the Aussie sports market today.

We need a CEO who is explicitly, actively PRO-expansion, AND reinvest the revenue from expansion into the grass-roots, AND look after for the smaller clubs.

Case in point, the NRL proposed a "differential funding" model where the little guys got a bit more, but the wealthy clubs shot it down. Yet the clubs/NRL want all clubs to survive "as is"!

 

[betcats]

The only problem with that of course is it doesn't answer taste2s' very necessary question.

Im not trying to answer that question and PR was running down Vlandys before this new deal story came out so no its not a problem. I mean its in his signature, cleary he is off the bloke due to his Perth expansion views - Anything PR says about the bloke should be taken with a grain of salt after that.

 

[shear_joy9]

Negotiating a new deal now is insane.

Why not wait until next year ?

Why the rush to get this deal done for less money by the end of the week?

it really is ridiculous.

One of rugby leagues weakest points in its history and V'landys is allowing news and nine to bend them over a barrel.

V'landys already looks like some superhero villain now his actions are proving him to be one

 

[Desert Qlder]

For me depends on the drop. Even $200m a season over 5 years is good considering market situations

The market hasn't been tested though.

 

[franklin2323]

The market hasn't been tested though.

That we know of but State of Origin lost a sponsor still has none. Bulldogs same. More companies will go under which means less more money to spend on advertising

 

[Perth Red]

Im sure your dislike of Vlandys has nothing to do with him killing any chance of Perth expansion anytime soon? You are as agenda driven as the media ffs.

Dave Smith liked the idea of Perth so you love him, be less obvious.

thanks for the advice, Peter.

 

[Perth Red]

Negotiating a new deal now is insane.

Why not wait until next year ?

Why the rush to get this deal done for less money by the end of the week?

we fought so hard to get rid of first and last rights, now we’ve abandoned it all together and not even going to test the market lol. What’s the betting the afl will go to market next year and kill us again in their deal?

IF we get the same amount for 23&24 as this deal, if we keep 3fta games, If we keep simucast for Fox and if we maintain the digital arm then I will doth my cap to Vlandys and hail him a genius. Anything less and he has fcked the game over.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

I don't get how the ARLC / Independent Commission are supposed to run whole of game whilst the NRL clubs think & act & argue that they are pretty much whole of game. And large sections of the fanbase and media believe the clubs.

 

[Quicksilver]

Wah wah wah.

who cares. The league is the clubs. End of story. You guys act like there are all these other places crying out for a team. Need flash- there isn’t.
There are maybe two viable expansion options- Perth and Brisbane 2.

and even those places are highly questionable.

 

[betcats]

Wah wah wah.

who cares. The league is the clubs. End of story. You guys act like there are all these other places crying out for a team. Need flash- there isn’t.
There are maybe two viable expansion options- Perth and Brisbane 2.

and even those places are highly questionable.

Further to that our most recent expansion is still fairly questionable in an area that is no doubt a RL area.

 

[Quicksilver]

Further to that our most recent expansion is still fairly questionable in an area that is no doubt a RL area.

Yep. Where We were told it was guaranteed to work. And it did- for 5 minutes.

Nothing against the Gold Coast- the path is difficult.

 

[Exsilium]

Not sure how talk of expansion could still have any momentum when many of the current clubs and to an extent, the NRL, are run so poorly.