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Fit Wicks in the mix for Knights kick-off

Frederick

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Fit Wicks in the mix for Knights kick-off
By BRETT KEEBLE

A SURPRISE appearance in a lower-grade trial at his old stomping ground could be enough to secure Danny Wicks a start in Newcastle's NRL season-opener against Canberra at EnergyAustralia Stadium on Saturday night.

The former St George Illawarra Dragons prop was one of a handful of senior Knights who bolstered the Central Charlestown side for a trial against NSW Cup club Newtown at Oki Jubilee Stadium on Saturday.

Wicks had missed NRL trials against the Warriors and Sharks in recent weeks because of a hamstring strain and minor injuries sustained in a motoring accident.

Central were beaten 40-24, but the 22-year-old Grafton junior achieved his goal of completing the match injury-free and will be considered for the game against the Raiders.

Wicks is expected to be named tomorrow in coach Brian Smith's extended squad and hopes to be in the final 17 come kick-off.

In the absence of Ben Cross and Mitchell Sargent, who are unavailable as they recover from injury and illness respectively, Jesse Royal and Dan Tolar are expected to start in the front row, supported by Richard Fa'aoso and either Wicks or Matt White off the bench.

"I hadn't played a trial, so I was just trying to get a bit of match fitness before the season started, and I've pulled up sweet," Wicks said last night.

"It was good to have a bit of a hit-out before round one, if he picks me. Fitness on the field is a bit different to what you get running around at training. I think I played about 50 minutes, and I felt good out there on the field."

Halfback Luke Walsh and centre Junior Sau also played for Central, but Sau sustained a corked thigh in the opening minutes and will be checked by medical staff today.

Wicks said wins over the Warriors and Sharks had helped establish confidence in a rebuilding Newcastle side, and the players were keen to continue that into the season.

"I'm really looking forward to my first game here with the Knights," he said. "It would be good to see a big crowd there and the town get behind us so we can start the season in a good and positive way."

Smith is still deliberating on the make-up of his final squad but is expected to name 19 or 20 players tomorrow then trim that to 17 later in the week.

Most conjecture is around the halves and front row.

Smith is likely to start the season with Jarrod Mullen at halfback and converted back-rower Chris Bailey alongside him at five-eighth.

The alternative is Mullen at five-eighth and Scott Dureau, another natural playmaker and general-play kicker, at halfback.

[PI9016] The Knights remained unbeaten in Harold Matthews (under 16s) with a 36-14 victory over Balmain at The Gardens on Saturday but suffered their first loss in SG Ball (under 18s), going down to the Tigers 20-16.
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Third choice halfback, eh Karmawave? :roll:
 

KniGhTs BaTTLeR

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That would be the smart option IMO. Although Mullen would have to take the brunt of the organising and just let Dureau play his game.
 

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Frederick said:
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Third choice halfback, eh Karmawave? :roll:


How thick are you man? Luke Walsh isn't fit enough for first grade yet. :roll: Possibly fit enough to play some type of football, but not first grade!

Because the Eels put Tim Smith in a park football team because of shoulder injury, does that mean he isn't their first choice halfback? Don't kid yourself and think its punishment for being a goose on the p*ss.

Like Luke Walsh, Smith has an injury he is coming back from and like any smart coach, you don't push players too early ( especially smaller players ).

What's sad is there are people on here looking for anything anti Walsh just so they can stick it to me. Instead of just supporting the whole team, there seems to be some sort of element of enjoying Luke Walsh's injury/illness setbacks just to make a point over me.

It shows your intelligence really. If I wanted to be lame and stoop to your level, I can go and find countless quotes that are pro Luke Walsh too... But why bother?

The bottom line is, if Luke Walsh was not seen by Brian Smith to be his main choice halfback for 2008 and beyond, then answer me why they would give Luke Walsh a 3 year ( THREE YEAR ) contract that only starts at the beginning of this year, and Scott Dureau was lucky enough to get a 1 year deal.

Personal attack me all you want mate, but bring up some sort of factual substance behind your personal dislike of me instead of some half hearted rubbish that shows Scott Dureau as second choice half by default - merely because Luke Walsh isn't seen as fit enough to start first grade in Round 1.

The rumour going around ( and I don't know how true it is ), is that Luke Walsh isn't even going to be at the club much longer. I don't know why, and I don't know how, and I don't even know if its true. It is obvious Luke Walsh is not in Brian Smiths short term plans to start the season due not being first grade fit, and apparently it was discussed at board level to release him overseas to get his timing and fitness up, while playing in a higher level of football ( the UK Superleague ) than for Central Charlestown against Nevilles.

At this stage of the year, until injury or other factors intevene, Mullen and Bailey are the halves combination that Smith wants on the park. I agree with that combo too - it is what is best for the team!

But even so, whatever happens, Brian Smith and the Newcastle Knights obviously think highly enough of the bloke to give him a 3 year deal - whether it ends because of his attitude, or because he doesn't like Brian Smith, or whatever the case - the fact of the matter is, Luke Walsh was deemed good enough to sign a 3 year deal starting 2008. When someone can logically explain how that can occur but Luke wasn't seen as the number 1 half option hell will freeze over.

You can be anti Walsh and anti me all you like, but you're arguing a losing argument when fact comes into play.
 

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KniGhTs BaTTLeR said:
That would be the smart option IMO. Although Mullen would have to take the brunt of the organising and just let Dureau play his game.

Dureau's natural game is organising mate...
 

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macavity said:
Dureau's natural game is organising mate...
LOL took the words out my keyboard. As I said previously I would much prefer to see Mullo at 6 and Dureau at 7, I think Smith is also of the opinion that Mullo is best there at 6, hence the use of Walsh at 7 last season. I think the thing that will hold Walsh back more than anything is size, he certainly got thrown around a bit last year, and seems very fragile. The argument can be made re Preston Campbell, or Alfie, Alfie was a tough little bugger, and well Preston hides on the wing in defences (not something I think we can afford with Walsh) I'm not sure if Dureau has bulked up any either, but Like I said I'd rather the Mullo/Dureau combo, as opposed to Bailey and Mullo.
 

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antonius said:
LOL took the words out my keyboard. As I said previously I would much prefer to see Mullo at 6 and Dureau at 7, I think Smith is also of the opinion that Mullo is best there at 6, hence the use of Walsh at 7 last season. I think the thing that will hold Walsh back more than anything is size, he certainly got thrown around a bit last year, and seems very fragile. The argument can be made re Preston Campbell, or Alfie, Alfie was a tough little bugger, and well Preston hides on the wing in defences (not something I think we can afford with Walsh) I'm not sure if Dureau has bulked up any either, but Like I said I'd rather the Mullo/Dureau combo, as opposed to Bailey and Mullo.

i agree. you only have to have a half a brain to see that mullo is alot better at 5/8.
also bailey is a decent temporary 5/8.
he is simply a ball playing forward playing 5/8.

id love to see bailey bulk up and play lock.
he needs to get heavier imo.
at present i think he is around 96 kg?
 

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Smith generally plays a big lock - while Bails isnt small, think the likes of Simmo, Tolar or Fa'aoso.

Case in point - he persisted with Daniel Wagon (a natural lock) at 6 for years.

I think Bails can offer the team a lot - but I also think the sum of a dureau (or walsh, but im not much of a fan) and Mullo partnership is more than the parts of Bails/Mullo.

I don't think Mullo is a natural organiser and talker - he is a classic 6 in the Daley/Fittler mould (ie can run plays but is better left to be the point of attack) - and I think he will excel if left to play his natural game. for him to do that he needs a classic 7 next to him.
 

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I reckon Wicks can carve up for us.

Alot of people here would be suprised that he is actually one of the quickest blokes in the club over short distances.

He was clocked at the 3rd highest speed ( something like 29km an hour ) of all players in the club.

Dont let size fool you for someone who is unfit or slow.

Glen Lazarus is an example of that.
 

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KniGhTs BaTTLeR said:
That would be the smart option IMO. Although Mullen would have to take the brunt of the organising and just let Dureau play his game.

The pack rates his organisation and direction higher than any other half.

Whaite has been great this year as well.
 
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Scotty will be halfback soon I am certain. The lad has been very patient and deserves a crack at the number 7. Bails will have to come out firing or else he could well be playing for Central this year. Mullo is an auto pick so Scotty will be waiting on Bails. That is how much depth we have and with Sarge and Crossy to come back it will be even tighter.
 

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macavity said:
Smith generally plays a big lock - while Bails isnt small, think the likes of Simmo, Tolar or Fa'aoso.

Case in point - he persisted with Daniel Wagon (a natural lock) at 6 for years.

I think Bails can offer the team a lot - but I also think the sum of a dureau (or walsh, but im not much of a fan) and Mullo partnership is more than the parts of Bails/Mullo.

I don't think Mullo is a natural organiser and talker - he is a classic 6 in the Daley/Fittler mould (ie can run plays but is better left to be the point of attack) - and I think he will excel if left to play his natural game. for him to do that he needs a classic 7 next to him.

I totally agree!!!

But thats the thing, things that seemed so damn obvoius to me didnt for Hagan, and since he was naming the team not me, I was very dissapointed week in week out...

HOWEVER, it seems B. Smith is on the same wavelenght with a lot of us guys so which means probably we will see the teams we want named on the park more often... B. Smith FTW!!!!:eek:
 
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