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Flanno's New Signings

mattw5

Juniors
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421
C'mon guys and gals, we all know if Flanno caved in to 3 years we would have all cried blue murder. You cant blame RCG either, this nonsense about not wanting to come to the Dragons for this or that, simply he wanted 3 years we only offered 2, Titans finally offered 3 years and he took it, good luck to him, we had a plan and we are sticking to it. I'll say this again, lets not F$#k up the pathways of some of our very good forwards that are coming through, we must allow this to happen. Build our strength in our own juniors and the NRL success will happen. The days of buying premierships are over. Leave that to the rorters and other clubs, Lets focus on what Penrith is doing and we should be as well.
I don’t particularly want to rely on our pathways we never seem to get any good ones that come through, false sense of security our junior nursery always hyped up but rarely delivers.
 

Veteran Dragon

Juniors
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113
C'mon guys and gals, we all know if Flanno caved in to 3 years we would have all cried blue murder. You cant blame RCG either, this nonsense about not wanting to come to the Dragons for this or that, simply he wanted 3 years we only offered 2, Titans finally offered 3 years and he took it, good luck to him, we had a plan and we are sticking to it. I'll say this again, lets not F$#k up the pathways of some of our very good forwards that are coming through, we must allow this to happen. Build our strength in our own juniors and the NRL success will happen. The days of buying premierships are over. Leave that to the rorters and other clubs, Lets focus on what Penrith is doing and we should be as well.
I just hope Dragon fans show some patience while these younger players are developing into NRL players.
 

Jubilee

Juniors
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821
I don’t particularly want to rely on our pathways we never seem to get any good ones that come through, false sense of security our junior nursery always hyped up but rarely delivers.
In my opinion, Cody Ramsay was going to be of the best fullbacks ever to pull on a St George jersey. Bravery, defense, speed, swerve, anticipation, leap, catching, support play. His passing maybe needed work.

Reece Robson is the NSW SOS hooker.

There is lots of talent.
 

TheRev

Coach
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We cant just rely on our U19 side saving 1sts.. it never works.. itll just ruin their careers and our clubs chances in the process.. they have to develop and learn in the grades leading up... and its what we did wrong with our 2019 SG Ball winning squad.....

Now if the odd one is a freak and starts dominating NSW Cup (and none of them have so far bar Couchmans who just turned 21), then maybe they come up early.. but if they cant dominate NSW Cup, then they have no place in 1st grade getting exposed by the worlds best players.

Gould is showing everyone how it works.. you need a gun 1st grade side AND layers of gun juniors, and they fuse together over time.. there is no shortcut.. and even if there was, we didnt play finals in Flegg or NSW Cup.. just for perspective in regards to our talent pool.

Our path out of here is Flanno's red hot coaching and man-management skills holding this ship together until he can finally recruit 1st grade talent + finally replace Hunt + finally get an alpha prop + finally has a couple of blokes like Couchies, Tonga and Latu showing more than just potential in 1st grade.. its gonna be another hard 2 years to guide us to the other side..
 

saintmar

Juniors
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1,067
Well it’s then a very poor recruitment success rate by him
May be our player targets don’t want to be coached by him since we have chased everyone and only landed 2 that nobody else wanted.
 

SnowDragon

Juniors
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Don’t care about RCG. He would have been good for 2yrs at most. long term older guys without a passion for the club, dangerous.

Sign the couchmen longer term though, soon.

Wait for the right signings But don’t block players when they get to that stage.


it’s going to be A Loooong off season lol
 

justadragon

Bench
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4,094
I don’t particularly want to rely on our pathways we never seem to get any good ones that come through, false sense of security our junior nursery always hyped up but rarely delivers.
I dont know if i'd be saying that M5, our pathways has a rich history of producing great players. What has happened is we have allowed it to dwindle to virtually nothing. This season has been a major improvement and we are starting to target distinct junior players. Hopefully we can get the right people in place to see us through into our future.
 

justadragon

Bench
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4,094
We cant just rely on our U19 side saving 1sts.. it never works.. itll just ruin their careers and our clubs chances in the process.. they have to develop and learn in the grades leading up... and its what we did wrong with our 2019 SG Ball winning squad.....

Now if the odd one is a freak and starts dominating NSW Cup (and none of them have so far bar Couchmans who just turned 21), then maybe they come up early.. but if they cant dominate NSW Cup, then they have no place in 1st grade getting exposed by the worlds best players.

Gould is showing everyone how it works.. you need a gun 1st grade side AND layers of gun juniors, and they fuse together over time.. there is no shortcut.. and even if there was, we didnt play finals in Flegg or NSW Cup.. just for perspective in regards to our talent pool.

Our path out of here is Flanno's red hot coaching and man-management skills holding this ship together until he can finally recruit 1st grade talent + finally replace Hunt + finally get an alpha prop + finally has a couple of blokes like Couchies, Tonga and Latu showing more than just potential in 1st grade.. its gonna be another hard 2 years to guide us to the other side..
No one is saying put our juniors into the NRL, but we must let them develop in the lower grades. we do have to wait, we have been f$#king these grades for a long time, this year has been a bit of a turn round and the way we have recruited shows us what the intent is. The club will be nowhere in the future if we dont build a strong junior grade.
 

rasaint

Juniors
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1,116
Jubilee great post- Cody Ramsey would have cemented a spot at fullback as top level player. Not just ‘potential’ he was displaying it. If only he can overcome his dreadful illness, but other posters with family experience note it’s highly unlikely.
 

TheRev

Coach
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11,620
tbf we may still get 2 great signings before xmas.. its just that there are becoming fewer and fewer available options.. and as a supporter its hard to watch..

I'm glad its not me negotiating with all those player managers though, the calls Flanno makes could make or break his career.
 

mattw5

Juniors
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421
I dont know if i'd be saying that M5, our pathways has a rich history of producing great players. What has happened is we have allowed it to dwindle to virtually nothing. This season has been a major improvement and we are starting to target distinct junior players. Hopefully we can get the right people in place to see us through into our future

The point i am trying to make is the hype hasn’t matched what we have produced its a false sense of security & has been for a long time. This new crop coming through could break the cycle but we can’t bank on that.
 

Illusion

Bench
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No one is saying put our juniors into the NRL, but we must let them develop in the lower grades. we do have to wait, we have been f$#king these grades for a long time, this year has been a bit of a turn round and the way we have recruited shows us what the intent is. The club will be nowhere in the future if we dont build a strong junior grade.
Justadragon I for one have always said if they are good enough age is not a thing they will rise to the surface ......... That's how it was when I came through the lower grades as a young bloke into top grade ...... The players that can be fast tracked need to have an arrogance about them and toughness , not all of them can transform into top grade earlier ..........
 
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tbf we may still get 2 great signings before xmas.. its just that there are becoming fewer and fewer available options.. and as a supporter its hard to watch..

I'm glad its not me negotiating with all those player managers though, the calls Flanno makes could make or break his career.
For our roster for 2025 think there will be an answer from both Lodge and JAC sooner rather than later.
Flanagan will want at least another 1/2 spots filled before preseason training starts in November.
The way Flanagan and others operate in these times, there will always be approaches made to players still under contract for 2025 to agitate for an early release.
It is only because of the 1 November rule that it is hard to know who is being targeted.
 

saintmar

Juniors
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tbf we may still get 2 great signings before xmas.. its just that there are becoming fewer and fewer available options.. and as a supporter its hard to watch..

I'm glad its not me negotiating with all those player managers though, the calls Flanno makes could make or break his career.
Made a coaching career call last year and refused to let Hunt go
Hows that call looking now?
 

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