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Flanno's New Signings

ADAM_SMITH

Juniors
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In what way is Guler an upgrade on either Molo or Lawrie ? By what parameters and in what f**king fantasy land is Guler an upgrade on any of our forwards ? Maybe he's marginally better than Michael Molo but even then you're pushing it. He's another reject that no-one else was the least bit interested in that we've signed out of desperation, a skill free plodder with zero upside. Stop kidding yourself he's anything but. To think he'll possibly be one of our starting props is just an embarrassment. This signing makes the Aaron Woods signing look like a masterstroke.
Dragons had actually wanted Guler last year.

He was actually in talks with Dogs, Roosters, Rabbitohs, Gold Coast & Dragons.

Dogs ended up going with Thompson.

Roosters couldnt fit him in cap this year wanted him to replace JWH

Rabbitohs offered him a 3 year deal with minimum salary for year 1

Gold Coast said if Pahulu leaves they would sign him.

Dragons been chasing him since last year

his been stuck behind Papalii and Tapine who are arguably the games best prop for the last 5 years!!

so he has done his apprenticeship heading into his prime as a PROP.
 

Wolfgang90

Juniors
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In what way is Guler an upgrade on either Molo or Lawrie ? By what parameters and in what f**king fantasy land is Guler an upgrade on any of our forwards ? Maybe he's marginally better than Michael Molo but even then you're pushing it. He's another reject that no-one else was the least bit interested in that we've signed out of desperation, a skill free plodder with zero upside. Stop kidding yourself he's anything but. To think he'll possibly be one of our starting props is just an embarrassment. This signing makes the Aaron Woods signing look like a masterstroke.

Always good to see a different view point. I think people can have the optimism he ends up like a Liddle, who also had question marks before arriving at the Dragons but has now become a good player. Guler has played in a GF & was on the fringes of a very good Raiders pack. He's also had previous junior rep honours, so has skill & potential. Some players improve by moving clubs or are late bloomers, Vaughan being a prime example.

I understand your pessimism, Frank is more established than him & has had a better career. I think Guler is more skilful & effective than Lawrie through his carries & defence while easily being better than Michael Molo who has barely played 1st grade.

At the end of the day, we need forwards & he was available. He's the right size, has experience, solid character & comes from a system that produces good forwards. It's not a long nor expensive contract, he's a low risk high reward type of play. Unless there was another fwd available immediately that would be better than Guler, he's the best we could get right now.

Like most things in life, perspective is needed.
 

SAP58

Juniors
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Always good to see a different view point. I think people can have the optimism he ends up like a Liddle, who also had question marks before arriving at the Dragons but has now become a good player. Guler has played in a GF & was on the fringes of a very good Raiders pack. He's also had previous junior rep honours, so has skill & potential. Some players improve by moving clubs or are late bloomers, Vaughan being a prime example.

I understand your pessimism, Frank is more established than him & has had a better career. I think Guler is more skilful & effective than Lawrie through his carries & defence while easily being better than Michael Molo who has barely played 1st grade.

At the end of the day, we need forwards & he was available. He's the right size, has experience, solid character & comes from a system that produces good forwards. It's not a long nor expensive contract, he's a low risk high reward type of play. Unless there was another fwd available immediately that would be better than Guler, he's the best we could get right now.

Like most things in life, perspective is needed.
I like you respect everyones opinion on this forum whether I agree with it or not. The guy was a Junior Kangaroo in 2017 so he must have some ability, but yes some progress from that level better than others as you can see from the list below. Prop is probably one of the most difficult positions to fill & there are not a lot available for the right price or terms. As I have said in another post I will give the guy a go & respect Flannos judgement & reserve my judgement until the end of the year. Maybe im stupid but I havent given up on Blake Lawrie playing like he did in 2023, injury free, but I dont want someone like Frank Molo who doesnt want to play for us taking up salary cap space & big $$$$$ I would rather give someone the chance to prove himself. Better option than Lodge who is basically the only other option available at the moment.

2017 Junior Kangaroos​

1. Corey Allan – Brisbane Broncos (Queensland)
2. Tyronne Roberts-Davis – Gold Coast Titans (Queensland)
3. Enari Tuala – North Queensland Cowboys (Queensland)
4. Jesse Ramien – Cronulla Sharks (NSW)
5. Curtis Scott – Melbourne Storm (NSW)
6. Jai Field – St George Illawarra Dragons (NSW)
7. Brodie Croft (captain) – Melbourne Storm (Queensland)
8. Stefano Hala – Penrith Panthers (NSW)
9. Reece Robson – St George Illawarra Dragons (NSW)
10. Blake Lawrie – St George Illawarra Dragons (NSW)
11. Jaydn Su'A – Brisbane Broncos (Queensland)
12. Sam Stone – Newcastle Knights (NSW)
13. Cameron Murray – South Sydney Rabbitohs (NSW)
14. Victor Radley – Sydney Roosters (NSW)
15. Jack Murchie – Canberra Raiders (NSW)
16. Ray Stone – Parramatta Eels (NSW)
17. Emre Guler – Canberra Raiders (NSW)
18. Gehamat Shibasaki – Brisbane Broncos (Queensland)
 
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Always good to see a different view point. I think people can have the optimism he ends up like a Liddle, who also had question marks before arriving at the Dragons but has now become a good player. Guler has played in a GF & was on the fringes of a very good Raiders pack. He's also had previous junior rep honours, so has skill & potential. Some players improve by moving clubs or are late bloomers, Vaughan being a prime example.

I understand your pessimism, Frank is more established than him & has had a better career. I think Guler is more skilful & effective than Lawrie through his carries & defence while easily being better than Michael Molo who has barely played 1st grade.

At the end of the day, we need forwards & he was available. He's the right size, has experience, solid character & comes from a system that produces good forwards. It's not a long nor expensive contract, he's a low risk high reward type of play. Unless there was another fwd available immediately that would be better than Guler, he's the best we could get right now.

Like most things in life, perspective is needed.
Nice post!
 

dragon thomo

Juniors
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1,239
I would not get to carried away in not getting May as I remember other players going to the Tigers and their careers stall. And one of those players were better then May. Gouler would be on half of Mays contract.
 

kit66

Bench
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4,108
Dragons had actually wanted Guler last year.

He was actually in talks with Dogs, Roosters, Rabbitohs, Gold Coast & Dragons.

Dogs ended up going with Thompson.

Roosters couldnt fit him in cap this year wanted him to replace JWH

Rabbitohs offered him a 3 year deal with minimum salary for year 1

Gold Coast said if Pahulu leaves they would sign him.

Dragons been chasing him since last year

his been stuck behind Papalii and Tapine who are arguably the games best prop for the last 5 years!!

so he has done his apprenticeship heading into his prime as a PROP.

Where did you get all this fake news from ? Don't tell me, you read some guff from Zero Tackle's quality journos so it must be true or was it a pod cast you found on Youtube. Replace JWH, yeah that's totally believable.
By "in talks with" you mean his Agent was shopping him around but everyone said Nah, mate, we're good.
Now we have posters on here pretending like Flanno has orchestrated some cunning coup and signed a future champion in Emre Guler. Please stop.
Hopefully we can hold onto Frankie or Flanno has a real Prop signing in the works otherwise we're fooked.
 

kit66

Bench
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4,108
Always good to see a different view point. I think people can have the optimism he ends up like a Liddle, who also had question marks before arriving at the Dragons but has now become a good player. Guler has played in a GF & was on the fringes of a very good Raiders pack. He's also had previous junior rep honours, so has skill & potential. Some players improve by moving clubs or are late bloomers, Vaughan being a prime example.

I understand your pessimism, Frank is more established than him & has had a better career. I think Guler is more skilful & effective than Lawrie through his carries & defence while easily being better than Michael Molo who has barely played 1st grade.

At the end of the day, we need forwards & he was available. He's the right size, has experience, solid character & comes from a system that produces good forwards. It's not a long nor expensive contract, he's a low risk high reward type of play. Unless there was another fwd available immediately that would be better than Guler, he's the best we could get right now.

Like most things in life, perspective is needed.

Perspective and editing skills.
That's all you needed to say (in bold). The rest is blah, blah, I must convince myself, blah.
 
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Wolfgang90

Juniors
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833
Perspective and editing skills.
That's all you needed to say (in bold). The rest is blah, blah, I must convince myself, blah.

Your perspective on Frank Molo seems to differ than what he's actual produced. You need to follow through with your own words. What insights, experience or knowledge do you have with NRL recruitment apart from watching, listening & reading others opinions on the game. Do you have anything first hand? Anything relevant apart from your own opinion, like everyone on here?
 

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