Forward passes

[Amin Yashed]

How about you hold his hand, take him to the Himalayas

Haha ok. Why the himilayas out of curiosity?

 

[POPEYE]

Haha ok. Why the himilayas out of curiosity?

They're still sending messages by gong

 

[T-Boon]

Yes. Physics is indeed some kind of sorcery.

No. The players know about physics. Hence if it drifts forward due to momentum it is an addressable ball control issue. They could throw the pass so it goes backwards they just can't be bothered.

 

[T-Boon]

Haha ok. Why the himilayas out of curiosity?

Welcome, man. Popeye is just a bit old school. Forgive him.

 

[POPEYE]

says the Lord

 

[Card Shark]

Turbos pass last night is a prime example

Why are you calling him Turbo?

Is it because he runs really fast?

Wonder if that would influence how far a long pass would float forward from him.

 

[The_Shield]

No, you get called an idiot for not understanding that balls passed backwards whilst the player is running will travel forwards.

When and where have I failed to understand that? I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that players should have to compensate for it so the ball is still caught behind where it was thrown. It's really not that much to ask

 

[Life's Good]

When and where have I failed to understand that? I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that players should have to compensate for it so the ball is still caught behind where it was thrown. It's really not that much to ask

What does that mean?? Are you saying the player receiving the pass needs to stop & catch the ball or catch the ball behind himself eg hands facing backwards??

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

No. The players know about physics. Hence if it drifts forward due to momentum it is an addressable ball control issue. They could throw the pass so it goes backwards they just can't be bothered.

Yes, before throwing a pass all players must be required to complete a complex mathmatical equation to ensure the ball travels backwards at all times, but if they don't show their working - forward pass is called.

 

[The_Shield]

What does that mean?? Are you saying the player receiving the pass needs to stop & catch the ball or catch the ball behind himself eg hands facing backwards??

No, I'm saying if for example if Cameron Smith passed the ball to Billy Slater from the 50m line and Billy catches it ahead of that line then that should be a forward pass. But if he receives the ball prior to or on the line then that's fine

 

[Life's Good]

No, I'm saying if for example if Cameron Smith passed the ball to Billy Slater from the 50m line and Billy catches it ahead of that line then that should be a forward pass. But if he receives the ball prior to or on the line then that's fine

Agreed. But that is from dummy half where one player is stationary & much easier to pick up(granted it isn't but technically should be). What about players on the run?? How are they to 'compensate' to catch the ball behind them??

 

[POPEYE]

No, I'm saying if for example if Cameron Smith passed the ball to Billy Slater from the 50m line and Billy catches it ahead of that line then that should be a forward pass. But if he receives the ball prior to or on the line then that's fine

We're trying to encourage wingers to pass the ball and you want them to stop to a crawl . . . they'll end up with Netballer knees

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Eliminate the risk.

Ban passing altogether.

 

[T-Boon]

Agreed. But that is from dummy half where one player is stationary & much easier to pick up(granted it isn't but technically should be). What about players on the run?? How are they to 'compensate' to catch the ball behind them??

He is saying the passer needs to compensate not the catcher. The ball has gone forward by the time it gets to the catcher there is nothing he can do about it.

Go look at film of the way they played in the 80s under the 5 metre rule where the game was about creating your own space behind you in the territory you already earned and creating opportunities regardless of field position with creativity not gaining every easy cheap metre on offer so that you can reduce risks and mistakes and then squeeze a mistake out of the opposition inside their own 20.

 

[T-Boon]

Yes, before throwing a pass all players must be required to complete a complex mathmatical equation to ensure the ball travels backwards at all times, but if they don't show their working - forward pass is called.

Nah, like everything else it is just about coaching, practice, situational awareness. Backline get deeper. Easy.

 

[POPEYE]

Nah, like everything else it is just about coaching, practice, situational awareness. Backline get deeper. Easy.

There's a shitload of 'backward' in you ol' mate

 

[Life's Good]

He is saying the passer needs to compensate not the catcher. The ball has gone forward by the time it gets to the catcher there is nothing he can do about it.

Go look at film of the way they played in the 80s under the 5 metre rule where the game was about creating your own space behind you in the territory you already earned and creating opportunities regardless of field position with creativity not gaining every easy cheap metre on offer so that you can reduce risks and mistakes and then squeeze a mistake out of the opposition inside their own 20.

No. The words were 'players have to compensate...... so the ball is CAUGHT behind...' that would indicate the catcher must compensate. How is that possible?? Again is the catcher to stop & wait or does he need to turn and twist so his hands are behind him?? This all played out against the backdrop of physics. And if you want to bring up the 80's let's go back to feeding the scrum in the middle and leather balls. My point is forward passes will happen, you can't stop them. It's up to the refs to police it better.

 

[T-Boon]

Agreed. But that is from dummy half where one player is stationary & much easier to pick up(granted it isn't but technically should be). What about players on the run?? How are they to 'compensate' to catch the ball behind them??

I agree that the dummy half forward passes are the big problem. No excuses. They should get rid of that deliberate forward pass penalty rule (which is dead anyway) and make the rule that a forward pass from dummy half is a penalty. The others just a turn over.

 

[T-Boon]

No. The words were 'players have to compensate...... so the ball is CAUGHT behind...'

It is obvious he means the passer needs to compensate for the float.

 

[The_Shield]

No. The words were 'players have to compensate...... so the ball is CAUGHT behind...' that would indicate the catcher must compensate. How is that possible?? Again is the catcher to stop & wait or does he need to turn and twist so his hands are behind him?? This all played out against the backdrop of physics. And if you want to bring up the 80's let's go back to feeding the scrum in the middle and leather balls. My point is forward passes will happen, you can't stop them. It's up to the refs to police it better.

Wow. Fine I'll simplify it for you. The passer must compensate so that the ball is caught by the receiver behind or in line with where the ball is thrown from