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Four Broncos cleared of sex assault allegations

salivor

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so the bar manager imagined it was Lockyer :crazy:

well the reports of taking alcohol off a licensed premises and pushing/tackling the manager are hardly minor


The incident is alleged to have occurred after several players drinking at the club took alcoholic beverages outside club, breaching the venue's liquor licence.

"The manager obviously doing the right thing as per out liquor act and licence conditions went over there and asked for them to be returned and he was just pushed aside," Mehta said.


So that is mnor :crazy:

When did taking alcohol off the premises suddenly become worthy of discussion to begin with? That's not a minor incident, it's a straight out nothing incident.

For the rest, I notice how we've moved from tackled to semi-tackled to strong push to now just pushed aside, geez this major incident that you seem to be blowing it up to be is really gaining momentum, just not in the direction that's going to do your argument any good.
 

salivor

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you said this would not have made the news if it hadn't been for the cubicle incident as it was minor

i said thats rubbish as lesser incidents have. they didn't need a cubicle to help either

This story sat around for 2 weeks. Of course it wouldn't have made the news. I know you're not stupid enough to believe it's a coincidence this has popped up in this week of all weeks.
 

Razor

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Lets just assume the Broncos will remain hypocrites and refuse to dump any of the players. If by some miracle the Broncos win this weekend I wonder if Hunt will go out on the town after the match and try and beat his mark of "meeting" 10 girls in one night. If he does I'm sure he'll be boasting about it to the media so we should find out.
 

Dutchy

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Lets just assume the Broncos will remain hypocrites and refuse to dump any of the players. If by some miracle the Broncos win this weekend I wonder if Hunt will go out on the town after the match and try and beat his mark of "meeting" 10 girls in one night. If he does I'm sure he'll be boasting about it to the media so we should find out.


Onya Hunty
 

El Diablo

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When did taking alcohol off the premises suddenly become worthy of discussion to begin with? That's not a minor incident, it's a straight out nothing incident.

read the article again

you do know you can be arrested for taking alcohol out of a licensed premisees, don't you?

maybe NZ has different laws

my cousin spent a night in the can for drinking outside the pub
 

Razor

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When did taking alcohol off the premises suddenly become worthy of discussion to begin with? That's not a minor incident, it's a straight out nothing incident.

It's illegal to do so. Venues have to have a special license to allow them to sell alcoholic beverages they can take off the premises, and even if a venue has such a license they can't be open (cups/glasses/open bottles, etc.)
 

salivor

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read the article again

you do know you can be arrested for taking alcohol out of a licensed premisees, don't you?

maybe NZ has different laws

my cousin spent a night in the can for drinking outside the pub

And you lot laugh at us for shagging sheep.
 

bartman

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This story sat around for 2 weeks. Of course it wouldn't have made the news. I know you're not stupid enough to believe it's a coincidence this has popped up in this week of all weeks.
Agree. It seems just the usual media muck-raking to find lesser incidents after the first event to keep the bigger issue in people's minds.

If this was a problem or complaint to police made at the time, it wouldn't have been sat on the shelf for two weeks until after the cubicle bandits did their stuff. And it it wasn't a problem or complaint to police about the unidentified tackle etc, then that speaks for itself about the level of importance of that incident.

To attempt to argue otherwise seems to be making less sense than anything Razor has posted.
 

El Diablo

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is suggest you make yourself familiar with Australian laws, sali

http://www.liquor.qld.gov.au/Patrons/Drinking+in+public.html

Drinking alcohol in a public place

The Liquor Act 1992 bans the drinking of alcohol in a public place. This includes roads, footpaths, parks and beaches but does not include public places where alcohol is consumed at the consent of the owner, such as a BYO restaurant or places covered by a liquor licence or permit.

The other exception to the ban is when a Council declares a ‘wet area’.

‘Wet areas’ are designated by your local council to allow the consumption of alcohol in a public place, normally for particular occasions such as a wedding in the park.

The Council may elect to designate a certain public place as a 'wet area' on an ongoing basis and nominate specific days and times when alcohol can be consumed.

If a Council does designate an area (eg. a park with barbecue facilities), it must advertise this decision in a local newspaper and signs must be erected to identify the park and specify the area, days and times for liquor consumption.

If, at a later date, the Council wishes to repeal or amend the designation for the area it must follow the same procedures.

Therefore if a park has been designated a 'wet area' and then the Council decides to limit this to weekends, the amendment must be advertised in the newspaper and the signs changed accordingly.

If the Council amends or repeals a ‘wet area’ and fails to advertise and you consume alcohol there without knowing that it is no longer a ‘wet area’ you are not guilty of an offence.

There are very few Council approved ‘wet areas’ in Queensland. Usually permission is granted for a festival or one-off occasion rather than a permanent ‘wet’ approval. For example, during the Birdsville Races, the local council declares two-three blocks around the Birdsville Hotel as a ‘wet area’ for the event because of the large number of people attending the races.

Applying to have an area designated ‘wet’

If you wish to consume liquor at a wedding, festival or similar event being held in a public place, you should apply to your local council to have the area declared ‘wet’ for the occasion.

Remember, though, having an area declared ‘wet’ does not rule out the need for a liquor licence or permit if you intend to sell or supply liquor to others, such as at a festival or fete. Go to the permits section of this website for more information.

Penalties


You can be fined $75 under the Act for drinking in a public place or $225 if you are a minor (under 18). Police Officers and Liquor Licensing Investigators can also issue an ‘on-the-spot’ fine of $75.
 

salivor

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Sorry I must've missed that class on backwards 3rd world nations with little to no relevance in school ;-)
 

bartman

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Was there a complaint about this beahviour made to police at the time, two weeks ago, or not?

That must be the barometer of importance surely, not the content of possible interpretations of the law that could have been applied, but that the bar concerned appeared not to bother to set in motion.
 

Willow

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Having sex in a public place is a criminal offense yes.
Razor, you first have to determine if it was in public view and secondly if anyone saw it and said they found it offensive. And then wait for the outcome.

The men and the woman are not immediately criminals just because you say so from behind your computer.

You really should respect due process with this one.
 
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ibeme

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Was there a complaint about this beahviour made to police at the time, two weeks ago, or not?

That must be the barometer of importance surely, not the content of possible interpretations of the law that could have been applied, but that the bar concerned appeared not to bother to set in motion.

The hotel's motivation in this would be to get the hotel's name in the papers as much as possible, nothing to do with seeing justice. Not that that excuses poor behaviour.
 

salivor

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Also El you might just be able to get a gig with the Daily Telegraph afterall. The managers quote that you highlighted doesn't actually state Lockyer himself took alcohol off the premises, for all we know it was someone amongst his group.
 

Razor

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Razor, you first have to determine if it was in public view and secondly if anyone saw it and said they found it offensive.

Doesn't matter if anybody saw them.

If a man goes into a womens toilet intentionally - he is a criminal
If a woman goes into a mans toilet intentionally - she is a criminal

A public toilet in a venue that is open to the public, is a public place. It wasn't a sex club. It is illegal to have sexual intercourse anywhere on the premises, including the toilets. Same as it is down at the toilets in your local park.
 

Razor

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You've just opened the door for every local perve.

A man waltzs into a womens locker-room at the gym. He gets asked by the police what's he doing, and says "Not doing anything wrong, just waiting for some girl I met for a f**k. She told me to wait here"
 

El Diablo

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Doesn't matter if anybody saw them.

If a man goes into a womens toilet intentionally - he is a criminal
If a woman goes into a mans toilet intentionally - she is a criminal

A public toilet in a venue that is open to the public, is a public place. It wasn't a sex club. It is illegal to have sexual intercourse anywhere on the premises, including the toilets. Same as it is down at the toilets in your local park.

hmmm you know a bit about toilets

a friend of George Michaels perhaps?

i seriously doubtyou know sh*t though
 

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