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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Brick Tamland

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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...-to-spill-into-courtroom-20220802-p5b6o0.html


NRL set to hold government to ransom as stadium war threatens to spill into courtroom​

By Michael Chammas and Lucy Cormack

August 2, 2022 — 6.47pm


The NRL will hold the NSW government to ransom as the ugly fallout from a new phase of the Sydney stadium wars threatens to spill into the courtroom and strip the state of lucrative grand final hosting rights.
Following months of uncertainty over whether a handshake agreement to rebuild a cluster of suburban stadiums would proceed, Premier Dominic Perrottet on Tuesday evening told the NRL he would not commit to a timeframe for investment and would prioritise funding for flood reconstruction.
“I find it appalling that they’re using human tragedy of the floods to renege on an agreement,” the powerful chair of the Australian Rugby League Commission, Peter V’Landys, told the Herald.

The government’s decision triggered an angry confrontation in the premier’s office between Perrottet and V’Landys, who has now devised a strategy that could trigger a legal battle over the future of Stadium Australia at Sydney Olympic Park.

Under a 2018 agreement struck by the then premier Gladys Berejiklian, the NRL grand final would remain in Sydney until 2042 on the proviso the Olympic venue would be reconfigured into a 70,000-seat rectangular stadium at a cost to taxpayers of about $800 million.
The government abandoned the plan during the pandemic and V’Landys claims he had secured a verbal commitment from Berejiklian and also Perrottet for between $250 million and $350 million to instead be spent upgrading stadiums in Cronulla, Manly, Leichhardt and Newcastle.

While there is nothing in writing that will force the government into honouring any suburban ground funding, the NRL believes the original agreement for Sydney Olympic Park still stands.
Sources have told the Herald that the NRL alleges there is a legally binding agreement to invest $800 million into the upgrade of Stadium Australia and will hold the government to the deal despite the code’s preference for money to be redirected into boutique stadiums.
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“When you consider the billions of dollars they spent in the recent budget, the amount they need to honour our agreement is insignificant,” V’Landy’s said. “We will press that they honour the original agreement, which will cost the NSW taxpayer more due to the way they have handled this.”
The NRL spent Tuesday exploring its legal options and has one of the country’s most respected barristers, Alan Sullivan QC, at its disposal on the ARL Commission.
In a statement, Perrottet said the government remained committed to upgrading suburban stadiums but natural disasters and the COVID-19 pandemic meant investment should be staged.

“The government has just received the Floods Inquiry Report, which will likely require a significant cost to the taxpayer, and I note right now there are still 1366 people without a home in NSW due to flooding,” he said.

“It should come as no surprise that my top priority is therefore supporting those devastated by the major floods across NSW.”
The NRL’s showpiece event, the grand final, is now in danger of being moved from Sydney to Brisbane as the Queensland government prepares to swoop in and steal the decider.
Asked about the future of the event, V’Landys relied: “Everything is now back on the table. It will be a board decision, not mine.”
Sports Minister Stuart Ayres, who is fighting to remain in cabinet over his involvement in the John Barilaro New York trade job scandal, said it would be “an extraordinary move” for the NRL to take the grand final to Queensland.
“We’ve got to make sure that we make investments that are in the best interests of the people of NSW,” he said. “It just might mean that we have to wait a little bit longer before we can spend additional money on those venues.”

While plans to rebuild suburban stadiums such as Leichhardt and Newcastle have now been put on ice, a $300 million redevelopment of a stadium in Ayres’ seat of Penrith will go ahead.
Wests Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis blasted the apparent change of policy.


“The government’s management of its stadia policy from the outset has been amateurish and embarrassing,” Hagipantelis told the Herald.
“I assume if the state government is to backflip on its commitment to fund suburban stadiums, then the $300 million committed to the Penrith stadium can now be better utilised for schools and hospitals?

“It would be outrageous for Penrith to retain its stadium for the obvious political benefit of its local member.”
The June state budget pledged $113 million over the next four years to deliver three new training facilities for male and female rugby league players for the Bulldogs (Belmore), Dragons (University of Wollongong) and Eels (Kellyville Park).
 

ground zero

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Where are all the delusional Sharks fans gone kept telling them they would not get Taxpayer money for a privately own ground. 130 million yer no haha.
 
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Centralised stadiums won’t work in Sydney

it’s not Melbourne with zero traffic and ease of access

plus one of the reasons the nswrl was formed was the nswru didn’t want to play games locally.
melb hardly has zero traffic , but it is far better organised. Its 2 venues are on main train lines & you can walk from Flinders St station to the MCG in 15 minutes , or take a tram.

Sydney is a different kettle of fish ... completely
 

MugaB

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No they won’t get one. They will be given the option to play at Parra stadium if they want. I’ve always said this.
Fk ur dumb, they'll pack out the old penrith stadium instead, its like the whole argument of rebuilding a new one next door to the old one, means f**k all, as they'll never play 30 mins away at commbank, youre off your head if you think that
 

Wb1234

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I bet the premier still manages to find the 200 million needed so accor (roof) can get the final for the union World Cup

it’s so lucky we don’t have gallop or Greenberg in charge now we would be monumentally stuffed
 

Iamback

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clubs sell games to make $$ usually , The Phins don't strike me as a club who will need to do this , much like their cross town rivals ...

They left out a location from their name for a reason, Central QLD at one stage was aiming for the NRL.

Not a viable option but that mining cash still has a place in the game
 
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Where are all the delusional Sharks fans gone kept telling them they would not get Taxpayer money for a privately own ground. 130 million yer no haha.
Did you also say that Council owned grounds, Leichardt and Brookvale, would also not get funds?
If you did, then your comment has merit.
 

Jamberoo

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Centralised stadiums won’t work in Sydney

it’s not Melbourne with zero traffic and ease of access

plus one of the reasons the nswrl was formed was the nswru didn’t want to play games locally.
They would if people really wanted to go. Still takes an hour to get into MCG, Marvel or AAMI if driving from most suburbs. Melbourne has the same population as Sydney but is more spread out. Yes, our PT is much, much better, but the fans all whinged when the AFL closed all the suburban grounds. It is shame that there are no games at all at the traditional venues, but for the financial good of the game it was the best move they ever made. It took people a few years to get used to, but the end result was a 50% increase in crowds in Melbourne and Adelaide, and all teams now have fans all over the city.
You can upgrade the suburban venues over time like what is happening at Manly. Keep the capacities 15K - 18K and play half the games - those v other Sydney clubs at SFS, Homebush (not many) or Parra. After a few years of whinging the crowds will climb and these big games will have 50% higher crowds with roughly half the crowd supporting each team which is how it is in Melbourne. The key to growing crowds is opposition supporters.
 

Diesel

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when the nsw govt fold, I think Shark Park and Leichhardt will miss out. Leichhardt is used a few times a year and Shark Park is privately owned.
 

Ozzi_78

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Where are all the delusional Sharks fans gone kept telling them they would not get Taxpayer money for a privately own ground. 130 million yer no haha.
Still here now and earlier addressing the decision with dissapointment. You might not be a supporter of the clubs who missed out but this decision is bad in general for all league fans.
 

T-Boon

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Fk ur dumb, they'll pack out the old penrith stadium instead, its like the whole argument of rebuilding a new one next door to the old one, means f**k all, as they'll never play 30 mins away at commbank, youre off your head if you think that
When Penrith arent a dominant side they get 8-10k crowds. Dont make out like they pack out stadiums all the time.
 

Colk

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Still here now and earlier addressing the decision with dissapointment. You might not be a supporter of the clubs who missed out but this decision is bad in general for all league fans.

Is it that bad? Putting money into say Leichhardt is not worth it.
 

Diesel

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I haven’t been to Shark Park but with the development going around, they’d be limited in increasing their capacity. Without any government cash, the ground becomes NSW Cup standard or another block of units with water views
 

Wb1234

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They would if people really wanted to go. Still takes an hour to get into MCG, Marvel or AAMI if driving from most suburbs. Melbourne has the same population as Sydney but is more spread out. Yes, our PT is much, much better, but the fans all whinged when the AFL closed all the suburban grounds. It is shame that there are no games at all at the traditional venues, but for the financial good of the game it was the best move they ever made. It took people a few years to get used to, but the end result was a 50% increase in crowds in Melbourne and Adelaide, and all teams now have fans all over the city.
You can upgrade the suburban venues over time like what is happening at Manly. Keep the capacities 15K - 18K and play half the games - those v other Sydney clubs at SFS, Homebush (not many) or Parra. After a few years of whinging the crowds will climb and these big games will have 50% higher crowds with roughly half the crowd supporting each team which is how it is in Melbourne. The key to growing crowds is opposition supportersIs it that bad? Putting money into say Leichhardt is not worth it.
Is it that bad? Putting money into say Leichhardt is not worth it.
It’s not the right decision but ultimately the nrl is giving up the right to sell the grand final to other cities so it’s up to them (not the state government) how the money should be directed

they literallly are only doing Penrith now for their own reasons not for rugby league
 

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