The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Pippen94]

Impossibile now as the old trees on the northern end are protected now, aren’t they?

Best feature of the ground are those trees

 

[Pippen94]

Was a plan for that in the 80s…View attachment 65508

That's one weird looking design

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Sydney is the biggest market
Sydney has the most top companies
Sydney has the most millionaires

That is fact

Last year the Broncos raked in $12,757,777 from their sponsors.

https://www.broncos.com.au/siteassets/about-us/pdfs/220414---2021-annual-report-brisbane-broncos-limited.pdf

Cowboys raked in $8,986,580 from their sponsors.

https://cowboysleagues.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/AnnualReport-2021-DL.pdf

Sharks raked in $4,033,757 from their sponsors.

Bulldogs and Eels dont say how much their football clubs get from sponsors, but the Bulldogs get $3.9m from their Leagues Club.

https://canterbury.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/2021-Canterbury-League-Club-Financial-Report.pdf

Annual Report - Parramatta Leagues Club

www.parraleagues.com.au

 

[Pippen94]

Would have drawn 5k at suburbia. Stadiums aren’t the only answer, they are part of the answer.

did you watch the game? Would you have paid $50 to watch that quality?
quality stadiums can only do so much and remove one of the excuses for not attending.
price, form, experience, convenience. Time etc all contribute. Dragons and tigers fighting it out for minor premiership gets 25k in there, which would not be achievable in their other two slums.

Parra is for parra. Tigers have no business.

 

[Pippen94]

Last year the Broncos raked in $12,757,777 from their sponsors.

https://www.broncos.com.au/siteassets/about-us/pdfs/220414---2021-annual-report-brisbane-broncos-limited.pdf

Cowboys raked in $8,986,580 from their sponsors.

https://cowboysleagues.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/AnnualReport-2021-DL.pdf

Sharks raked in $4,033,757 from their sponsors.

Bulldogs and Eels.sont say how much their football clubs get from sponsors, but the Bulldogs get $3.9m from their Leagues Club.

https://canterbury.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/2021-Canterbury-League-Club-Financial-Report.pdf

Annual Report - Parramatta Leagues Club

www.parraleagues.com.au

Irrelevant

 

[Pippen94]

Imagine if tigers had $200mill plus to build it and no ambition to be a big club lol.

Yeah, won't cost that. Apia want to put 6k stand at Lambert park (along with indoor courts below) for 30 million

 

[Iamback]

Which once again are all clearly irrelevant as it isn’t translating to sports clubs sponsorships and corporate sales. ie sponsorship revenue for 21 Sydney v non Sydney sports clubs

Broncos $12.7mill, Essendon $11.8million, nq cowboys $8.9mill Dockers $8.9million NQ Cowboys $8.9mill, WC Eagles$11.5mill

sharks $4mill
panthers $6mill
Eels $5mill

tell us again about all the corporates in sydney lol

So what city has more corporates?

Spend on sponsorship is an apples v Oranges comparison - You do love that

Souths have 2 billionaires in James Packer and Cannon-Brooks in the ownership team

Penn at Manly

Politis at the Roosters

The list goes on, With that goes the hundreds of millions in property that the relevant clubs own

 

[Iamback]

Irrelevant

They really have no idea

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Eels
2019 at Accor
sponsorship and corporate sales $5.9mill
membership sales And gate takings $2.8mill

2021 at commbank
sponsorship and corporate sales $7.9mill
membership sales And gate takings $4.9mill

an increase of $4.1million! 2016 annual report no longer availble to compare in the old stadium.

Where did you get that from?

I couldn't find it on their Para Leagues Financial Report.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Irrelevant

How so?

They really have no idea

You said Sydney has a larger corporate sector than any other city in Australia. I agreed with that. What I disputed is the inane belief held by some people that Sydney has so much more commerce than everywhere else in Australia it can support nine teams playing out of parks. The numbers from the financial reports prove that the big end of town don't want to spend their money on Sydney's NRL clubs because their fanbases are too small and they struggle to gain the same traction in the media as one team cities like Brisbane and Townsville.

The only thing Sydney's nine clubs can do to bridge the gap is play at world class facilities that draw in corporate box sales for the city's large business community. They may not get many more fans through the gate, but money from corporate sales would improve.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Last year the Broncos raked in $12,757,777 from their sponsors.

https://www.broncos.com.au/siteassets/about-us/pdfs/220414---2021-annual-report-brisbane-broncos-limited.pdf

Cowboys raked in $8,986,580 from their sponsors.

https://cowboysleagues.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/AnnualReport-2021-DL.pdf

Sharks raked in $4,033,757 from their sponsors.

Bulldogs and Eels dont say how much their football clubs get from sponsors, but the Bulldogs get $3.9m from their Leagues Club.

https://canterbury.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/2021-Canterbury-League-Club-Financial-Report.pdf

Annual Report - Parramatta Leagues Club

www.parraleagues.com.au

Bulldogs setup is that the football club controls the leagues club. They get whatever money they need. So the grants vary depending on what they want to do.

 

[Colk]

How so?

You said Sydney has a larger corporate sector than any other city in Australia. I agreed with that. What I disputed is the inane belief held by some people that Sydney has so much more commerce than everywhere else in Australia it can support nine teams playing out of parks. The numbers from the financial reports prove that the big end of town don't want to spend their money on Sydney's NRL clubs because their fanbases are too small and they struggle to gain the same traction in the media as one team cities like Brisbane and Townsville.

The only thing Sydney's nine clubs can do to bridge the gap is play at world class facilities that draw in corporate box sales for the city's large business community. They may not get many more fans through the gate, but money from corporate sales would improve.

Exactly. It’s oxymoronic to believe that playing at smaller grounds with poor facilities is going to increase attendances and lead to greater corporate sponsorship.

 

[Colk]

Best feature of the ground are those trees

That says pretty much everything about the ground

 

[Colk]

Yeah, won't cost that. Apia want to put 6k stand at Lambert park (along with indoor courts below) for 30 million

Are you an architect? Do you work for a construction company?

 

[siv]

Was a plan for that in the 80s…View attachment 65508

You need to knock down that 50y old 1973 grandstand and start again

 

[beave]

Impossibile now as the old trees on the northern end are protected now, aren’t they?

Are they that old though? You look at pics and vids from the mid 80's and the trees don't look that big, I doubt they'd be 40 years old tbh. This is from a game in 1985 I randomly found on FB.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Exactly. It’s oxymoronic to believe that playing at smaller grounds with poor facilities is going to increase attendances and lead to greater corporate sponsorship.

There's now a stadium in the east and one in the west. The next goal has to be to improve the public transport system so people from all over the city can reach these venues without having to catch 2 or more different trains and buses.

 

[Vee]

The key takeaway from that article is Bob McCarthy needs a HIA immediately

He's always been a goose.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Bulldogs setup is that the football club controls the leagues club. They get whatever money they need. So the grants vary depending on what they want to do.

Very much the same set up by the Roosters. The football club is in charge of the leagues club.

Yes also the Roosters are sponsored by those little, non-national organisations like Steggles, Red Rooster, Unibet, Budget, Castore...

 

[Colk]

There's now a stadium in the east and one in the west. The next goal has to be to improve the public transport system so people from all over the city can reach these venues without having to catch 2 or more different trains and buses.

Well it’s about an hour to hour and a half from the SFS for Manly and Cronulla respectively. It’s not necessarily ideal but it’s not like they can’t play some games there particularly against other Sydney teams. It would require them to play in the afternoon though.

For example, one way of getting people into the habit of attending is having regular double headers at both SFS and maybe Commbank.