The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Pippen94]

avg crowd Belmore 10,200. Avg crowd Accor 17,700. Doh!
And that's with Accor being horrible for club games. Dogs in a decent stadium would be over 20k avg over a few years.

Bulls.. Those numbers utter rubbish

 

[Perth Red]

Bulls.. Those numbers utter rubbish

They've averaged more in Perth than they did at Belmore lol.
1980-85 was the Dogs most successful period and they avg'd 9.2k at Belmore. Suburban grounds are a nostalgic myth.

last 3 years at Belmore they avg'd 8.2k, first 3 years at Accor 14.7k. Yeh moving to a new stadium was such a bad idea lol.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances /Canterbury

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

 

[Maximus]

Another out of Towner. Homebush has killed dogs

See, your assumption that anyone who doesn't think we should be playing at shitty suburban grounds is an "out of towner" makes you look like a moron. I live less than 5kms from Accor, and have lived in and around Sydney my whole life.

 

[Pippen94]

See, your assumption that anyone who doesn't think we should be playing at shitty suburban grounds is an "out of towner" makes you look like a moron. I live less than 5kms from Accor, and have lived in and around Sydney my whole life.

Last supposed "sydneysider" said concord oval was an hour from burwood station. All surveys show fans think accor is the shits & prefer local grounds.

 

[Pippen94]

They've averaged more in Perth than they did at Belmore lol.
1980-85 was the Dogs most successful period and they avg'd 9.2k at Belmore. Suburban grounds are a nostalgic myth.

last 3 years at Belmore they avg'd 8.2k, first 3 years at Accor 14.7k. Yeh moving to a new stadium was such a bad idea lol.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances /Canterbury

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

Accor includes double headers, easter games & finals. Numbers there are absolute bullshit too.

 

[Perth Red]

Comparison of new/modern/big stadiums v suburban/small/old stadiums this season that have had more than 1 game at them


Marathon 20.2k
Commbank 17k
NQ 16.6k
Accor 15.1k
AAMI 14.9k
Robina 12.8k
Avg 16.1k

Penrith 18.2k
LO 14.1k
Brookvale 13.1k
Shark Park 10.4k
Campbelltown 9k
Kogarah 8.4k
Avg 12.2k

Suburbia = myth

 

[Perth Red]

Accor includes double headers, easter games & finals. Numbers there are absolute bullshit too.

hahaha but but but....
The stats don't lie and people prefer modern stadiums to suburban slums.

 

[Pippen94]

Comparison of new/modern/big stadiums v suburban/small/old stadiums this season that have had more than 1 game at them


Marathon 20.2k
Commbank 17k
NQ 16.6k
Accor 15.1k
AAMI 14.9k
Robina 12.8k
Avg 16.1k

Penrith 18.2k
LO 14.1k
Brookvale 13.1k
Shark Park 10.4k
Campbelltown 9k
Kogarah 8.4k
Avg 12.2k

Suburbia = myth

Take finals, free easter games out og accor. Regular matches would be lower than suburban. None of those suburban grounds have had any money spent on them but still basically doing same number.

 

[Maximus]

Last supposed "sydneysider" said concord oval was an hour from burwood station. All surveys show fans think accor is the shits & prefer local grounds.

You can provide those surveys right?

 

[Pippen94]

hahaha but but but....
The stats don't lie and people prefer modern stadiums to suburban slums.

Imagine having to cherry pick numbers to try to prove point. Meanwhile, tigers playing before 4k at weekend. Only thing new stadium got are different color seats to look less empty. Might need actual blow up dolls on future..

 

[Pippen94]

You can provide those surveys right?

Sure can son;

Fans call for the NRL to keep games at suburban grounds

Keep league in the 'burbs

www.google.com

 

[Maximus]

Take finals, free easter games out og accor. Regular matches would be lower than suburban. None of those suburban grounds have had any money spent on them but still basically doing same number.

Why would you take those games out? They are big games with big crowds that suburban grounds can't accommodate.

Why should 2-3k of the fans who turned up to Accor on Queens Birthday be locked out?

 

[Colk]

Genius. Afl crowds actually gone down in recent times. Ppl still wanting those modern stadiums?! Did better before hahaha

Before when? Before they moved from suburban grounds? Have a look at the link below. They give you a average crowd figure from 1921-2022 as well as an average from 1997 (which is the time when Docklands began and their strategy of centralised stadia began in Melbourne)

Take note of the average crowd figures overall and that post 1997 of all Melbourne sides. All of those sides, bar none, crowd averages post 1997 are more than the overall average from 1921-2022, some by 5k, others by up to and more than 15k (Collingwood for example) Obviously I would have to do further maths but bear in mind that the crowd averages over 100 years would be lower pre 1997; thus the difference would be even greater pre 1997 to post 1997. Probably looking at increases at around 30 -40% really.

But yeah centralised stadia hasn’t worked for Melbourne clubs. I thought maybe you were just a conservative but now I’m starting to think you’re a troll if you are going to blatantly ignore such statistics.

 

[Maximus]

Sure can son;

Fans call for the NRL to keep games at suburban grounds

Keep league in the 'burbs

www.google.com

Lol a Daily Telegraph online poll.

 

[Pippen94]

Why would you take those games out? They are big games with big crowds that suburban grounds can't accommodate.

Why should 2-3k of the fans who turned up to Accor on Queens Birthday be locked out?

Coz regular matches draw less at homebush & parra

 

[Colk]

Btw here it is

AFL Tables - Crowds 1921-2024

 

[Perth Red]

Take finals, free easter games out og accor. Regular matches would be lower than suburban. None of those suburban grounds have had any money spent on them but still basically doing same number.

avg 4k fans a game across 6 venues isnt the same number lol Its basically 24k x 10 games or 240k MORE fans attending in a season at those venues! or around $12million ticket revenue extra at those 6 stadiums compared to the suburban slums.

The 2022 season Accor numbers dont include finals as we havent played any yet!

 

[Pippen94]

Before when? Before they moved from suburban grounds? Have a look at the link below. They give you a average crowd figure from 1921-2022 as well as an average from 1997 (which is the time when Docklands began and their strategy of centralised stadia began in Melbourne)

Take note of the average crowd figures overall and that post 1997 of all Melbourne sides. All of those sides, bar none, crowd averages post 1997 are more than the overall average from 1921-2022, some by 5k, others by up to and more than 15k (Collingwood for example) Obviously I would have to do further maths but bear in mind that the crowd averages over 100 years would be lower pre 1997; thus the difference would be even greater pre 1997 to post 1997. Probably looking at increases at around 30 -40% really.

But yeah centralised stadia hasn’t worked for Melbourne clubs. I thought maybe you were just a conservative but now I’m starting to think you’re a troll if you are going to blatantly ignore such statistics.

This year 30k, 2019 32k, 2010 36k...f'n liars

 

[Perth Red]

Lol a Daily Telegraph online poll.

But Al says! lol.
The proof of the pudding and all that, less fans attend suburban grounds, you really don't need any further evidence.

 

[Pippen94]

avg 4k fans a game across 6 venues isnt the same number lol Its basically 24k x 10 games or 240k MORE fans attending in a season at those venues! or around $12million ticket revenue extra at those 6 stadiums compared to the suburban slums.

The 2022 season Accor numbers dont include finals as we havent played any yet!

Wtf?! Belmore & Leichhardt have higher average. Now you counting total lol. Like I said cheap upgrade of suburban grounds will boost crowds.