The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Playing Origin in perth, melbourne and Adelaide brings millions of more $’s into the game than playing it at other venues can bring. 60k tickets at above premium prices plus $5-10million from the state govt. it’s a cash cow the nrl should continue milking.

test matches, all stars and nines are the events the nrl should be using to leverage development of improved stadia in places like Auckland, canberra, Wollongong and newcastle.

My concern is these games are pricing the average family from Queensland and New South Wales out of attending the event. It's the last thing we can afford to do in an over congested sporting market. AwFuL is cashed up and spends millions each year on developing the game across Queensland and NSW. If we're not careful then we could see more kids across Queensland and NSW kicking a Sherrin instead of a Steeden over the next 30 years.

I'd prefer to see teams in Adelaide and Perth so kids from those cities have a reason to choose our game over fumbleball.

 

[Perth Red]

My concern is these games are pricing the average family from Queensland and New South Wales out of attending the event. It's the last thing we can afford to do in an over congested sporting market. AwFuL is cashed up and spends millions each year on developing the game across Queensland and NSW. If we're not careful then we could see more kids across Queensland and NSW kicking a Sherrin instead of a Steeden over the next 30 years.

I'd prefer to see teams in Adelaide and Perth so kids from those cities have a reason to choose our game over fumbleball.

Don’t get me wrong so would I, but the nrl needs revenue to make that happen and origin is a very valuable product to sell. there will always be some who can afford to go to major events, and some who can’t. such is life In a capitalist country.

more revenue for nrl means more money for grassroots funding, in theory!, means less impact of afl grassroots spending.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The NRL could say to the state government that it will take Tests and origin games and womens Origin and tests to Newcastle if the state injects another $100m into the stadium and make it 40k. That is a good idea.
I don't know if the state government would care enough to go ahead with it but it is still a good idea. The state government has got to represent Newcastle as well as Sydney. Getting travel from Sydney to Newcastle has to be good for the state.

That's a very good idea. The only way regional Australia will grow is if the government invests in local infrastructure to attract young families. There's a limit to how many people can live in Melbourne and Sydney.

 

[siv]

r too much of northern Queensland's wealth is funnelled into SEQ

Yes there is still no proper rail line to Ipswich or Toowomba from Brisbane

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Don’t get me wrong so would I, but the nrl needs revenue to make that happen and origin is a very valuable product to sell. there will always be some who can afford to go to major events, and some who can’t. such is life In a capitalist country.

more revenue for nrl means more money for grassroots funding, in theory!, means less impact of afl grassroots spending.

Does the amount we make from these games offset the money invested into the clubs via the annual grant?

We could probably save more money from lowering the annual grant to the clubs than we can make from selling Origin. A good start would be for the grant to only cover the salary cap.

RL is predominantly watched by the working class sector of society. If the ARLC, QRL and NSWRL continue to price working class families out of the game then we'll lose the next generation to fumbleball and American sports.

Yes there is still no proper rail line to Ipswich or Toowomba from Brisbane

That's to keep people from Brisbane safe.

 

[Dogs Of War]

or they have to? So hard to know for sure. Bulldogs playing in a decent stadium and improving fan engagement may well lift their $8mill football club revenue to the point they dont need the many millions they draw from the LC, or it may be they are in an oversaturated corporate market with a fanbase not big enough to generate substantial revenue? One day we may find out.

I get sick of explaining this. The bulldogs football club control the leagues club. So the football club is not designed to make money. The issuers club hen grants the football club money. It’s a different setup to nearly all the other clubs. Most the leagues club controls the football club. So the football club needs to beg for money and ensure they stay within their means.

 

[Canard]

So kids who live in regional areas where there is ready access to NRL (Newcastle and Townsville) will be lost to the game if the game doesn't sacrifice millions and play Origin regularly in stadiums with less then 30k seats.

And people say the weed in Australia isn't strong

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I get sick of explaining this. The bulldogs football club control the leagues club. So the football club is not designed to make money. The issuers club hen grants the football club money. It’s a different setup to nearly all the other clubs. Most the leagues club controls the football club. So the football club needs to beg for money and ensure they stay within their means.

None of this changes the fact the Bulldogs should be making more from their football operations. It's not unreasonable to expect the Bulldogs to generate $15-20m from sponsorship, corporate hospitality, ticketing, membership and merchandise. At the moment they're making less than $9m in this department.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

So kids who live in regional areas where there is ready access to NRL (Newcastle and Townsville) will be lost to the game if the game doesn't sacrifice millions and play Origin regularly in stadiums with less then 30k seats.

And people say the weed in Australia isn't strong

Origin is the only RL event that draws so much hype. Kids can see similar hype by watching AwFuL and NFL games on TV.

If you weren't so lazy then you would have looked at the Gemba Report's findings on what young Australians are watching. Australian sports are in decline whereas American sports are growing rapidly.

 

[T-Boon]

If you weren't so lazy then you would have looked at the Gemba Report's findings on what young Australians are watching. Australian sports are in decline whereas American sports are growing rapidly.

NRL needs to be Americanised. I've been on about this for years on leagueunlimited.

 

[Canard]

Origin is the only RL event that draws so much hype. Kids can see similar hype by watching AwFuL and NFL games on TV.

If you weren't so lazy then you would have looked at the Gemba Report's findings on what young Australians are watching. Australian sports are in decline whereas American sports are growing rapidly.

So why would we make Origin available to less kids, and restrict the numbers could attend such contests?

 

[forby]

Every nrl club should be in a state of the art stadium, don’t hate on those who’ve achieved it!

No NRL club achieved a Stadium. NQ, GC, Brisbane, Roosters, Parra and the Storm were all gifted stadiums. The worst ‘achievers’ were the Roosters and Parra who have had 2 stadiums gifted to them in 40 years.

 

[Pneuma]

Wow they haven’t played a game yet and Already PerthafloverWith the negative crap .
how surprising.

Careful Phil. Negativity is just reversed positivism.

 

[Pneuma]

some of us are just gifted with foresight

but yeh if you can point me to one outer suburb club that is drawing 18-20k plus crowds ona. Regular basis please do tell. Maybe I’m wrong in my assumption that somehow this one would be different To all the rest?

Maybe we’ve read your assumptions many many many times. The mighty sharks still thrive. The Perth team? Not so.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

NRL needs to be Americanised. I've been on about this for years on leagueunlimited.

Most posters on here are baby boomers and live in the past. They think the game can never be anything more than a niche sport played at glorified suburban parks in front of 10k people. Clubs are to be bankrolled by drunken gamblers who go to the Leagues Club to get stuck into the piss and play around on the pokies.

Our game needs to market itself to southeast Asia and the south Pacific. The former has a high population and a large corporate base that our game needs to become richer. The latter has the talent pool we need to expand to a 20 team competiton. It will require significant investment and take time to bear fruit. It will be risky. The alternative is to remain stagnate and eventually become irrelevant when the rusted on older fans are no longer around. The idiots on here who think all will be fine with six small clubs in Sydney and two in Brisbane don't have a f**ken clue. Kids don’t think like them.

 

[Pneuma]

Most posters on here are baby boomers and live in the past. They think the game can never be anything more than a niche sport played at glorified suburban parks in front of 10k people. Clubs are to be bankrolled by drunken gamblers who go to the Leagues Club to get stuck into the piss and play around on the pokies.

Our game needs to market itself to southeast Asia and the south Pacific. The former has a high population and a large corporate base that our game needs to become richer. The latter has the talent pool we need to expand to a 20 team competiton. It will require significant investment and take time to bear fruit. It will be risky. The alternative is to remain stagnate and eventually become irrelevant when the rusted on older fans are no longer around. The idiots on here who think all will be fine with six small clubs in Sydney and two in Brisbane don't have a f**ken clue. Kids don’t think like them.

I think referring to fellow posters as ‘idiots’ is highly disrespectful. Shame on you.

 

[Iamback]

I think referring to fellow posters as ‘idiots’ is highly disrespectful. Shame on you.

Well an idiot knows idiots afterall

 

[Pneuma]

Well an idiot knows idiots afterall

Mebbe! I noticed that the fella from Perth often refers to posters as ‘idiots’ as well. So your point stands. Meanwhile the mighty sharks thrive. We really do need a stadium upgrade though. And more pokies!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

So why would we make Origin available to less kids, and restrict the numbers could attend such contests?

Use your head for once instead of being an annoying contrarian.

If Origin loses its lustre amongst kids in Queensland then it impacts on the fortunes of the Maroons. Less kids playing the game will lead to a shallower talent pool in 15 to 20 years from now.

Holding Origin matches in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth won't make kids from those cities want to play our game.

If you want kids from Adelaide and Perth to choose our game then give them an NRL team.

 

[beave]

I love your new stadium it’s amazing

just saying let the qld govt throw some coin for the dolphins grounds cause they need it

titans will get their crowds back to the 20k ish they got at first but it’s a grind

QCB Stadium is superb, they nailed the whole thing IMO. The one tier north end is needed especially in the early and later months, the lack of breeze if it had a 2nd tier would be absolutely shithouse. I went up for the opening game in 2020 and it was horribly hot and humid. A 2nd tier would have made it even worse. It also allows for a massive big screen to be placed at that end, 2nd tier means you go down the parra path and have 2 smaller screens.

On Redcliffe they 100% f**ked up with the redevelopment by not sliding the whole stadium footprint northward 30-50m, this would have allowed a southern stand to be built. As it stands now a portion of the Dolphins leagues needs be bulldozed to allow it.

I still think the area at Springfield that was gifted to the Lions would have been an awesome place to put a 25k all seater. Right on the Centenary Hwy, train line 1min walk, Orion shopping centre car parking. Shame the Ipswich bid didn't have a sizeable leagues club backing it as IMO it would have then ticked all the boxes for a 2nd Brisbane side.

The have the coin, but i feel the wishy washy/lack of region identifier in the name is a massive negative. Trying to be something for all of SQLD that they're spruiking is fine but they need to draw the line in the sand and actually give themselves a region in the name.

If you don't represent something you represent nothing.

(apologies for going off on a tangent)