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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Iamback

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Or Seven and another player - Prime has been getting heavy into sports broadcasts over the last few years.

Ch7 won't have the money after cricket and AFL.

They don't have the local facilities sadly, Where would they get cameramen from for example?
 

Timbo

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Ch7 won't have the money after cricket and AFL.

They don't have the local facilities sadly, Where would they get cameramen from for example?

Many of the camera operators and such you see at sporting events are contractors - they work for a number of broadcasters depending on what’s required.
 

SpaceMonkey

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hes bleated that theres not enough money for any stadium , an all purpose venue would blow costs out to about the same as Hobarts ... maybe more ... we'd need 30K seats while they're only getting 20K , so he'd look like quite the fool demanding more be spent...
plus
for that extra out lay we'd get just 3 games of derps & misses & some big bash , no test cricket tho, you can't play tests in a roofed venue apparently
so the ROI isn't there

meanwhile the RL, RU & Soccer played in a rectangle venue would play over 30 times at the venue each year

it'll be a rectangle
end of
Does it really need a roof? Canberra’s cold but it’s fairly dry, provided a stadium had good driplines so the bulk of seating was covered it should be more than adequate
 
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shewi6

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The Broncos have expressed their interest in playing a premiership game in Las Vegas as the NRL prepares to ramp-up talks with US officials to launch the 2024 season in America.

The ARL Commission will discuss the historic Las Vegas double-header proposal at a board meeting on Wednesday and the NRL’s $60 million glamour franchise - the Broncos - could be one of the four clubs ‘Coming to America’.

As revealed by News Corp, ARL Commission boss Peter V’landys and NRL CEO Andrew Abdo have hatched plans to kick-off the 2024 season at the 65,000-seat Allegiant Stadium, home to NFL side Las Vegas Raiders.

Broncos chief executive Dave Donaghy said he is keen on more information from ARL Commission boss Peter V’landys, but confirmed the club is open to launching their 2024 premiership campaign on American soil.

“We are certainly open to it and hearing more about the concept and what the NRL’s long-term plans for the US may be,” Donaghy said.

“Subject to aligning with our schedule and planning, I’m sure we would have a level of interest to have a discussion about what an NRL double header in Vegas would look like.

“The game is keeping its cards close to its chest for now, but the one thing we want to provide for our players and staff and fans is really great opportunities.

“If you have the opportunity to play an NRL game at a stadium like that in Vegas, it would be negligent of us not to look at and give it serious consideration.”

The NRL previously explored taking a premiership game to the US this year and the Broncos were one of the clubs sounded out by the governing body.

The Broncos, Manly, Souths and the Roosters were among the clubs considered for a showpiece game in America this year, but the NRL put the concept on the backburner for 12 months due to planning and logistical issues.

The NRL’s American Dream, however, is alive and kicking. The Broncos - as one of the code’s premier brands and highest-rating clubs with audiences - are a frontline contender to be poster boys for the NRL in Vegas.

Donaghy revealed the Broncos were approached by the NRL last year to play a premiership fixture in the Land of Opportunity.

“We will certainly asked the question by the NRL (to play in America) but at that stage it was too late to make it happen,” Donaghy said.

“Playing an NRL premiership fixture overseas is something you need to have planned well in advance.

“To think that you can pick up a foreign game and take it to a new market and create an atmosphere and a level of interest in that time frame, it would have been pretty naive.

“The right call was made to hold it over. Whatever we do as a game, it’s important we do it properly and that it’s well considered.

“I am looking forward to hearing more about it (the Las Vegas concept) next week when the NRL is here for Magic Round.

“As a game, we have danced a bit with the US and the States before.

“In my time, we haven’t had a serious strategy or plan about whether we want to have a red-hot crack at a new and exciting market like the US.”

Broncos prop Tom Flegler, who will join the Dolphins next season, hopes a Queensland team is included in the NRL’s American double header.

“That (NRL games in Vegas) is massive for the sport and I think all teams will be scratching to get that one,” Flegler said.

“It will be pretty cool to go to Vegas and play a game of footy so we will see what happens.

“Obviously it will be great for a Queensland team to be involved in it.

“Just the NRL as a whole, any teams that go over there will do the NRL proud.”

OPINION: A REMARKABLE SPORTING SMORGASBORD

- Phil Rothfield

The NRL since Peter V’landys came on board has become the most innovative sporting organisation in the country.

As a result the game is flying with record TV ratings, memberships, crowds and betting turnover.

There have been some great innovations with the two-point field goals, rules to speed up the game, the Dolphins entry into the competition, Magic Round and more NRL matches in the bush.

The best however is yet to come.

The plan to open the 2024 season in Las Vegas is huuuuge.

Just imagine it – the 65,000-seat home of the Las Vegas Raiders hosting four NRL teams in matches beamed back into Australia.

And having major boxing and UFC events as the supporting acts.

It will be the most remarkable sporting smorgasbord.

Americans love their NFL because of the ball movement and the physicality of the sport.

They will also love the gladiatorial nature of rugby league.

Through a marketing blitz and the voices of Hugh Jackman and Russell Crowe they will know there is an event on.

This will be a weekend where Australia takes over Las Vegas.

The only possible negative is dealing with the distractions that would come when you put four squads of NRL players in Sin City and the city’s notorious night-life.

Sporting nuts right now will be planning their annual leave around a week in America.

This will not be a one-off experiment.

The NRL is determined to get a footprint into America.
It won’t happen overnight but they’ve got to start somewhere.

Las Vegas with four clubs and 68 NRL stars is the perfect launch pad.
 

Vibing

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Does it really need a roof? Canberra’s cold but it’s fairly dry, provided a stadium had good driplines so the bulk of seating was covered it should be more than adequate
its the psychology of being out of the weather , you're more likely to attend a game if you're out of it then being in an outdoor stadium with a good roof

it needs to be an indoor venue
 

shewi6

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Here is an article with more detail about the motivations behind it.

Vegas, baby, Vegas: NRL to make call on US double-header in next month
ByChristian Nicolussi and Roy Masters
April 24, 2023 — 5.05pm

The NRL wants to open next year’s competition with a double-header in Las Vegas with one of the big motivating factors being the chance to tap into the multibillion-dollar sports betting market in the US.

Manly, South Sydney and Melbourne were three clubs that quickly confirmed their interest on Monday with the historic season opener slated for Allegiant Stadium, the home of next year’s Super Bowl.

The chance to tap into the multibillion-dollar sports betting market in the US is the driving force behind the NRL's plans to play in Las Vegas.

ARL Commission chief Peter V’landys was already due to fly to the United States on other business, and will now be joined NRL counterpart Andrew Abdo early next month in a bid to get the deal across the line. A call on Vegas will be made in the next four weeks.

Sources with knowledge of the situation told the Herald that the NRL is eager to cash in on the booming sports betting market in America. In New York state alone, $16 billion was turned over last year on all sports.

The NRL would offer interested agencies the chance to show live content on their websites and bet in exchange for a product fee.

That product fee is generally a percentage of turnover or gross profit. The NRL now generates around $50m annually from wagering operators in Australia.

Peter V’landys is off to America to try and rubber-stamp a US double-header to start the 2024 season
Peter V’landys is off to America to try and rubber-stamp a US double-header to start the 2024 season

Storm chairman and part-owner Matt Tripp, who also runs betting newcomers betr, and has previously headed up Sportsbet, CrownBet and BetEasy, supported taking live games to the other side of the world.

“It would make perfect sense to showcase the best game in the world where they are really engaging in online sports betting,” Tripp said.

“I don’t know what the NRL motives are, but if it’s to go to the US to play some games to help create awareness, I think wagering dollars should flow off the back of it. It would take a while to build up, but the NRL could end up making a figure that would be in the tens of millions of dollars.”

Tripp said the Storm would be open to featuring in the historic double-header.

Tripp said one of the appeals of the Melbourne club was it had a geographical place name identifiable to Americans. The Storm also argue they are owed some scheduling favours. They played Parramatta away in round one when the AFL was yet to start instead of getting the chance at clear air space in Melbourne. Ditto the AFL’s Gather Round in Adelaide when the Storm played Manly at Brookvale.

The Storm also play a home match against the Rabbitohs during next month’s Magic Round, continuing the NRL policy of consecutively staging their home matches in Brisbane.

The choice of the four clubs to play in the US gambling capital is sure to raise issues over scheduling. The Broncos already get a significant advantage by playing three-quarters of all their matches in Queensland.

Tripp said the NRL is serious about its latest US venture, after previous attempts failed to gain traction in the world’s biggest economy.

Clubs know if the games will happen, they need to be in place within the next month, which is the deadline the NRL has given itself.

Manly’s New York-based owner Scott Penn has been vocal about hosting a game in the US for a few years, and hoped his northern beaches club are “at the front of the queue” when it came to deciding which four teams feature.

“We’d be very keen, we’ve always said we’d be keen to take a home game to the US, it’s such a phenomenal market, and we definitely want to be at the front of the queue for this opportunity,” Penn told the Herald.

“It’s the biggest sporting consumer market in the world. It’s a market we’re you’re talking about 350 million people, and their No.1 sport being NFL, which is a gladiatorial sport like rugby league. There’s a passion for sports where there is that whole nature of putting your body on the line and physicality ... it’s really respected over here, and [for that reason] rugby league would do really well.”

South Sydney played a game in Jacksonville, Florida, in 2008, and with Russell Crowe’s profile - not to mention a few selfies of Snoop Dogg wearing the club’s red and green over the years - would be a popular choice.

Rabbitohs chief executive Blake Solly said: “If the game is serious about a long-term strategy to raise the profile of rugby league in the US market, we’re keen to be involved.

“There’s a huge market there, Americans have an appetite for contact sport, including NFL and ice hockey, and they’d love rugby league.”
 

Vibing

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Who said we need to be any of that crap. But they are still run way better then we are and the results are in the pudding.
who said ?

you did !
by using those scum as an example of what we should be & do.
If success is being what they are ...
I'll pass
they're filth, & the sooner we all realise it the better.
 

SpaceMonkey

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its the psychology of being out of the weather , you're more likely to attend a game if you're out of it then being in an outdoor stadium with a good roof

it needs to be an indoor venue
If you’ve got pollies who’re amenable to building a stadium in the first place by all means try to get a roofed one built, but id take a new unroofed stadium over nothing.
 

shewi6

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There should be no excuses for federal funding for new rectangular grounds now.
When u have a PM who is a Rugby League tragic who will fund a stadium that no one wants (for a sport no one likes 😆) then it should be an easy sell for the ARLC to lobby on behalf of canberra.
 

Steel Saints

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I know this is off topic, but at the moment, Las Vegas is 17 hours behind Australian eastern.The season kicked off on March 3 this year.

And if the season begins early March again next year, then the time difference will be 19 hours.
 

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Ch7 won't have the money after cricket and AFL.

They don't have the local facilities sadly, Where would they get cameramen from for example?
They don't need to bid for every game, even them wanting a "game of the round" would force 9s price up to maintain fta exclusivity

You'd hope the nrl is pitching these sort of ideas to 7 and 10
 

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They don't need to bid for every game, even them wanting a "game of the round" would force 9s price up to maintain fta exclusivity

You'd hope the nrl is pitching these sort of ideas to 7 and 10

In the case of ch7 they have AFL in those match of the round timeslots.

As for ch10. Either all in or not worth it for the outlay it would take
 

Perth Red

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Since super league no we haven’t

you can’t expect vlandys to undo 20 years of underperformance quickly either
Going to war with the nsw govt and failing to get anything signed off was certainly an interesting relationship building strategy for nsw stadiums lol
 

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You’d be amazed at how many Americans know about Sydney but have never actually heard of Melbourne.

But one of the biggest ways this game will get organically marketed is by expats convincing their American friends to go to with them to this once in a lifetime event. So I’d have teams from the widest geographical spread possible - a Queensland club like Broncos, New Zealand Warriors, probably the most visible NSW team South Sydney and Melbourne Storm. For whatever interstate team gives up a home match, the NRL can make up a home game for them later in the year.
They may know of Sydney that is the only globally well known city but only the Roosters carry the cities name. An American is more likely to have heard of Melbourne, Brisbane or Canberra than Penrith, Parra or Manly
 

The Great Dane

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Does it really need a roof? Canberra’s cold but it’s fairly dry, provided a stadium had good driplines so the bulk of seating was covered it should be more than adequate
There're many reasons why a roof would be ideal in Canberra, but the main reasons why you'd want a roof in Canberra are-

1. Windchill can be brutal at Bruce during winter. It turns thousands of people away from attending, and people want to make certain that it isn't a factor anymore.

2. The majority of Canberra's population has immigrated to the city from other parts of the country and are soft-cocks that think 20°C is cold. The thought of being outside in temperatures as low as -5°C is unbearable to them no matter the coverage. Lots of traveling fans are turned off by the low temperatures as well.

Building a roof fixes these problems and others definitively, and would add thousands to the average attendance of stadium in of it's self.
 

Stormy weather

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There're many reasons why a roof would be ideal in Canberra, but the main reasons why you'd want a roof in Canberra are-

1. Windchill can be brutal at Bruce during winter. It turns thousands of people away from attending, and people want to make certain that it isn't a factor anymore.

2. The majority of Canberra's population has immigrated to the city from other parts of the country and are soft-cocks that think 20°C is cold. The thought of being outside in temperatures as low as -5°C is unbearable to them no matter the coverage. Lots of traveling fans are turned off by the low temperatures as well.

Building a roof fixes these problems and others definitively, and would add thousands to the average attendance of stadium in of it's self.
You said it soft cocks. Look at the Bills fans in the NFL. No roof and they still show up
 

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