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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

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Timbo said:
Didn't the NSWRL also block the Jets move to Orana Park?
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They definitely played games there in 83. Don't know much more than that. Perhaps the NSWRL allowed if after the jets had been kicked out of the comp?

Geez Campbelltown must've been a pretty quiet place back then. Seems like the move was a bit ahead of its time.
 
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Wasn't this about the same time the Maggies got punted and won the right to keep playing in court? Which was why the Jets looked to move to the south-west?
 
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Timbo said:
Wasn't this about the same time the Maggies got punted and won the right to keep playing in court? Which was why the Jets looked to move to the south-west?
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Yeah. In 1983 too.

NSWRL tried to get rid of two teams, presumably to make it an even comp.

From 84-87 the comp was played with 13 teams, until the introduction of Newcastle, Gold Coast & Brisbane.

Wests moved to Campbelltown in 1987.
 
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herbert henry1908 said:
Yeah. In 1983 too.

NSWRL tried to get rid of two teams, presumably to make it an even comp.

From 84-87 the comp was played with 13 teams, until the introduction of Newcastle, Gold Coast & Brisbane.

Wests moved to Campbelltown in 1987.
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Where were wests originally from?
 
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The 1983 season was supposed to be the last seasons for both the Newtown Jets and the western Suburbs Magpies. Newtown moved some games out to Campbelltown, and their plan was to have a 1 year hiatus from the NSWRL and come back in 1985 as the Newtown-Campbelltown Jets. They had their plans all lined up to move to Orana Park, with the name change, new jersey strip and everything worked out. The plan fell apart when they could not find a buyer for the Newtown Leagues Club, as the proceeds from the sale would have allowed them to clear their debts (as they owed many players moneys for the current and previous seasons, which they had not fully paid due to financial pressures) and then finance the move. The move was officially called off in 1984.

In anticipation of the move to Campbelltown, the Jets played their last 6 home games of the 1983 season at Campbelltown.

Wests, by comparison, had a financially viable leagues club behind them, so they instigated court action which lead the NSWRL to agree to retain them in the comp. When the deal between Newtown and the Campbelltown-Liverpool JRL fell though in 1984, Wests began negotiations with the junior league which came to fruition in 1987, which is when they relocated to Campbelltown.
 
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thorson1987 said:
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Actually, it was Ashfield. They were founded at a meeting at Ashfield Town Hall on 4 February 1908. Wests played out of: Pratten Park at Ashfield from 1908-1909; St Luke's Park (which is now Concord Oval) from 1910-1911, Pratten Park from 1912-1914; St Luke's Park from 1915 to 1919; Pratten Park from 1920-1966; Lidcombe Oval from 1967 to 1986; Orana Park (now Campbelltown Stadium) from 1987 until the formation of the joint venture.

The reason the Magpies moved from Pratten Park to Lidcombe Oval is because Ashfield Council would not let the Magpies play matches at Pratten Park on a Sunday because it was a Church day.
 
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I wonder how different things would be if the Jets had successfully been able to shift to Campbelltown in '84.
I'd be jets_man instead of magpie_man for one...
 
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ALLIANZ STADIUM COULD BE REBUILT FIRST

Allianz Stadium could be knocked down and work started on a new 45,000-seat stadium as early as May next year.

NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg told club bosses in a telephone hook-up on Friday to prepare themselves for the likelihood of both Allianz and ANZ Stadium being out of action at the same time.
  • The new stadium at Moore Park would cost about $800 million to build on the existing site, meaning it would not encroach on Centennial Park land. It is already being hyped as "the best rectangular stadium in the world" that could rival the yet-to-be-completed Las Vegas Stadium, which will be home to NFL's Raiders at a cost of $2.4 billion.

    Some Sydney clubs, however, already fear the consequences if Allianz and ANZ Stadium are out of action at the same time.

    The Sydney Roosters, Waratahs and Sydney FC would be forced to share the SCG with the Sydney Swans while Allianz is out of action. ANZ Stadium has lucrative deals with South Sydney, Bulldogs, Wests Tigers, Dragons and Eels.

    NRL clubs fear the temporary pain of relocating to other venues would permanently disenfranchise fans who already refuse to attend matches in Sydney. Crowd attendances have dropped this year with large banks of empty seats at most matches held at Allianz and ANZ Stadium.

    With construction of the new Parramatta Stadium also falling behind its scheduled completion of March 2019, Sydney could be without its three main rectangular venues for part of 2019.

    Mr Greenberg would not comment on Sunday but a spokesman for the NRL said it was working with the government on the schedule of stadium works.

    "I think all rugby league fans will welcome the proposal to invest in both ANZ and Allianz stadiums," the spokesman said. "Our priority is to work with the clubs and government to deliver both projects for our supporters."

    Whichever way the stadiums are refurbished, the Premier's new stadium strategy is shaping as a significant win for NSW's major football codes.

    It will also allow Sydney to push for hosting rights for FIFA Women's World Cup in 2023, which would pump millions of dollars into the NSW economy.

    The new Allianz Stadium would feature "club mode" and "championship mode", depending on the size of the crowd and the significance of the match.

    The stadium issue, though, remains sensitive uncertain. There have been two government announcements in the last three years.

    Another is expected this week but those involved in Sydney's so-called "stadium wars" say they aren't holding their breath, so mired has the debate been in politics and agenda.

    If work was to start on Allianz Stadium before ANZ Stadium it would be a return to the original announcement from Mr Baird in 2015 that stadiums would be refurbished in accordance with how old they are.

    In April, Mr Baird backflipped on that decision and announced ANZ Stadium would be the priority ahead of Allianz Stadium and the SCG.

    Ms Berejiklian's office declined to comment when contacted on Sunday but her "pragmatic" approach is being hailed by those close to the negotiations as a positive step forward.

    "A redeveloped Allianz Stadium will be on existing SCG Trust lands," a SCG Trust spokesman said. "The Trust will work closely with the NSW Government, sports partners, neighbours and other stakeholders to maximise the economic, entertainment, parkland and sporting benefits of a new stadium.

    "The SCG and Allianz Stadium contribute an estimated $678m per year to the NSW economy in turnover and add more than $300m to the Gross State Product every year, at the same time as nearly 3000 jobs."
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I don't mind if Allianz goes first, as long as ANZ gets done properly & starts in 2019.

Therein lies the problem though. If the govt changes all bets could be off. Even if it doesn't change they could dump ANZ rebuild. (Although I think that's unlikely)

We can't knock ANZ down until Parramatta is ready anyway, so in some ways it does make sense to get going with Allianz stadium. And at 45,000 capacity it won't be enough to be sydneys main venue anyway. Which means we'll still need a world class major rectangular stadium, and that will likely be ANZ.

Said before though but Allianz seriously only needs to be 30,000. Cater to the major clientele, the clubs.

Anyway I just wish they'd hurry up and makes an announcement.
 
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herbert henry1908 said:
Said before though but Allianz seriously only needs to be 30,000. Cater to the major clientele, the clubs.
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Agree, at the very most. All codes crowds are woeful there. The soccer tenant won the comp and Roosters are in 2nd, so they aint ever getting any better. There will be an initial spike when Alan Jones Arena opens then they will go back to under ten thousand again.

At least it will have nice wide safe $700,0000 gates.
 
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$800mill for roosters, Waratahs and sydney fc seems a bit of a waste of money considering the avg crowds of the three tennant clubs. FC around 18k and other 2 around 15k. Makes a 45,000 capacity stadium seem somewhat extravagant.
 
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