The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Suitman]

Looks like Andrew Barr has finally come to the party and announced an upgrade to GIO Stadium.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Wow is that what he looks like

he’s doesn’t look the sport type

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[TheRam]

Shark park to allianz 26 kms
Penrith to commbank 35 kms
Manly to allianz 11 kms

And how many non locals travel to those dumps? As and example even if they gave the Panthers a great Parra type of stadium, the crowds would be mostly local fans. Not many Sharks, Roosters or any non westie locals would be making the trek out to the Mountains.

Don't get me wrong, I want the Panthers and every NRL club to have a quality all seater stadium. But comparisons are silly. We need great rectangular stadiums end of. Build them and the locals will come.

People want centralized easy access stadiums that are surrounded with eateries and drinking holes.

Also comparing Sydney to Canberra is ridiculous.

 

[TheRam]

To whoever adds pay walled headlines and is to lazy to cut and paste the article.

Stick it you pathetic di*ks! You are probably the sort of butt monkey's that lick ice cream in front of children and do Mmmmmm......sounds and never offer any.

FU*KSTICKS!!!

 

[yakstorm]

TBF its an empty threat. MW is never going to be in Canberra nor is a GF or Origin. Kangaroos play once in a blue moon so what exactly are they saying is currently being held back from Canberra hosting?
Probably only womens Origin or all stars game that realistically canberra could host and neither are exactly big events.

You're right that Women's Origin, All Stars and Tests are the only thing that Canberra could buy from the NRL, which isn't much, but the NRL wouldn't risk annoying the ACT government if they hadn't already found hosts for those events over the next few years.

 

[It's Been Done]

One of the new curved video screens (the River End) at AAMI is now in use, the other at the Swan Street end is basically assembled but currently switched off

 

[The Great Dane]

My experience of Canberra, based, sadly, on over over 200 work trips there over 30 years, is that the aps population is evenly spread between fumblers and league supporters. It’s a melting pot of ambitious medium skilled self promoting yuppies from all over the country. The population outside those inner city Canberra suburbs are the strongholds of league and nrl support. I’ve been to the stadium a few times over those years and, at least to me, it feels like it’s in the middle of nowhere and is well passed its use by date. My friends living there don’t believe a new stadium is needed but they aren’t ardent followers of the raiders so they don’t attend games anyway. Overall it appears to me as an outsider that your assessment of things there is pretty much spot on. I think Barr would love a fumbling stadium but the time isn’t right. But I’m sure he will not do rectangle sports any favours.

This is extremely accurate for somebody that hasn't lived here. I'm genuinely impressed.

The only things that I'd add are that over 50% of the ACT's population are immigrants from other parts of the country or overseas and their children, and they're present throughout Canberra's society not just in the APS. A lot of them come for uni, and there's been a concerted effort by Labour to give Canberra the image of being a 'university town' similar to the sort you see in America and the UK, like Berkley or Oxford for example.

I can't prove this, but I think it's more than fair to say that locals (i.e. Canberra Born and raised) are overrepresented in both the Raiders and Brumbies support base, but that the same can't be said for GWS or the other FIFO AFL clubs we've had in the past.

The other thing is that the vast majority of the people whom moved to Canberra when it was first founded were public servants from Melbourne, and they brought their culture with them. Pre 1940/50s they represented the majority of the population and a lot of their descendants continue to live in a sort of counterculture to this day. In other words, even within the minority local population there's an extremely strong contingent of AFL supporters.

 

[Pneuma]

This extremely accurate for somebody that hasn't lived here. I'm genuinely impressed.

The only things that I'd add are that over 50% of the ACT's population are immigrants from other parts of the country or overseas or their children, and they're present throughout Canberra's society not just in the APS. A lot of them come for uni, and there's been a concerted effort by Labour to give Canberra the image of being a 'university town' similar to the sort you see in America and the UK, like Berkley or Oxford for example.

I can't prove this, but I think it's more than fair to say that locals (i.e. Canberra Born and raised) are overrepresented in both the Raiders and Brumbies support base, but that the same can't be said for GWS or the other FIFO AFL clubs we've had in the past.

The other thing is that the vast majority of the people whom moved to Canberra when it was first founded were public servants from Melbourne, and they brought their culture with them. Pre 1940/50s they represented the majority of the population and a lot of their descendants continue to live in a sort of counterculture to this day. In other words, even within the minority local population there's an extremely strong contingent of AFL supporters.

Yep. Sounds right mate. I’ve based my opinions from socialising in Woden, Tuggeranong and other suburbs as a persistent traveller to Canberra for work. You pick up the vibe. I first travelled there in the 80s and was there 12 times a year at least for three decades. It’s a very distinct place. I went to the stadium many years ago to watch the brumbies and it was huge. Got a sponsors box. 20000 there. Very different now. Raiders are a big brand there obviously but walking past peoples desks it was a clear mix of NRL and fumblers looking at the posters beanies etc. Move away from the Canberra bubble and it turns into far more league territory. Go to Queanbeyan and it’s league pure and simple. Have very fond memories of the place but I’ll confess the gambling venues bourbon and smokes nearly killed me.

 

[The Great Dane]

I'm still not confident at all of anything more than token changes.

They're still in the process of installing the new big screen and new TV's at all the bars around Bruce. The pig is currently having her lipstick applied.

Yep, the current controversy will be forgotten within a few days, then everything will go back to normal.

That might change if PVL makes it one of his talking points and keeps the pressure on. This is one of the few cases where PVL being a blowhard could really help the sport, but he's too busy giving RU free publicity and couldn't really care less about Canberra anyway.

I have to wonder how much of Barr's continual dismissive attitude towards the stadium is so that when he eventually announces it for EPIC or Bruce that people will be so relieved that something is happening they won't blow up that it's not in Civic.

That's exactly what he's doing, and it's what he's been doing from the start.

He's aiming for one of two outcomes; his main goal is to get the rectangular codes to accept a "multipurpose", but if that doesn't work he wants the rectangular codes to accept an upgrade to Bruce leaving the more valuable land in the town centres free to sell to developers for apartments or to build an oval if he can swing it.

A stadium in the city is a great election promise, but he, Labour, and the Greens, have never had any intention of fulfilling it, and that's been clear for a decade at this point.

 

[Chief_Chujo]

Ratings go the NRL's way

That's all you had to say. Since that is the only real measure of popularity. But go on being an aggressive, and wrong, f**kwit.

 

[The Great Dane]

That's all you had to say. Since that is the only real measure of popularity. But go on being an aggressive, and wrong, f**kwit.

This is called cherry picking, and it's blatantly false to say that ratings are the only real measure of popularity.

Besides, as I said before, ratings for just Canberra are at best glorified guesstimates. Nobody is actually collecting ratings in the ACT, so on the odd occasion that people come up with them it is by taking the regional estimate and taking an educated guess at what they think would come from Canberra compared to that.

I guarantee that a Canberran AFL side would get similar ratings to the Raiders anyway.

Also Calling a spade a spade isn't being aggressive either. You are clueless or dishonest, it might not be polite to say it, but is what it is.

 

[Chief_Chujo]

This is called cherry picking, and it's blatantly false to say that ratings are the only real measure of popularity.

Besides, as I said before, ratings for just Canberra are at best glorified guesstimates. Nobody is actually collecting ratings in the ACT, so on the odd occasion that people come up with them it is by taking the regional estimate and taking an educated guess at what they think would come from Canberra compared to that.

I guarantee that a Canberran AFL side would get similar ratings to the Raiders anyway.

Also Calling a spade a spade isn't being aggressive either. You are clueless or dishonest, it might not be polite to say it, but is what it is.

Ok. You have great social skills mate. I'll leave it at that.

 

[The Great Dane]

Ok. You have great social skills mate. I'll leave it at that.

I'm not trying to make friends, and you're dodging.

 

[mongoose]

Looks like Andrew Barr has finally come to the party and announced an upgrade to GIO Stadium.


















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Sticky could still kick it over.

 

[Pneuma]

Anger over Hobart AFL stadium sinks Tasmania's government into minority as MPs quit party

Concerns over a contentious $715 million stadium and the government's priorities have pushed two Tasmanian MPs to quit the Liberal Party and sit as independents, ending Premier Jeremy Rockliff's majority.

www.abc.net.au

Fun and games down here!

 

[SpaceMonkey]

And how many non locals travel to those dumps? As and example even if they gave the Panthers a great Parra type of stadium, the crowds would be mostly local fans. Not many Sharks, Roosters or any non westie locals would be making the trek out to the Mountains.

Don't get me wrong, I want the Panthers and every NRL club to have a quality all seater stadium. But comparisons are silly. We need great rectangular stadiums end of. Build them and the locals will come.

People want centralized easy access stadiums that are surrounded with eateries and drinking holes.

Also comparing Sydney to Canberra is ridiculous.

But this is also why not every club gets a state of the art, “iconic” landmark stadium- sure it’d be nice but that’s not really needed for local club grounds. They do need to meet the needs of regular first grade football though, sufficient capacity, good sight lines and cover, up to standard player and corporate facilities etc.

 

[Vibing]

Anger over Hobart AFL stadium sinks Tasmania's government into minority as MPs quit party

Concerns over a contentious $715 million stadium and the government's priorities have pushed two Tasmanian MPs to quit the Liberal Party and sit as independents, ending Premier Jeremy Rockliff's majority.

www.abc.net.au

Fun and games down here!

With Labor opposing the stadium , & the cross bench Shakey at best
this is a long way from being across the line

tbh , we are a much bigger chance of getting a venue in Canberra if the Tas one goes ahead with the precedent set for federal intervention

 

[Pneuma]

With Labor opposing the stadium , & the cross bench Shakey at best
this is a long way from being across the line

tbh , we are a much bigger chance of getting a venue in Canberra if the Tas one goes ahead with the precedent set for federal intervention

Ive said this about Tassie all along. This is too much fun.

 

[Timbo]

It's not hard to see why.

$750m on a 23,000 seat stadium that'll be used for six AFL games a year. No roof and no retractable seating = no league, union or soccer. It's low capacity means its unlikely to attract the 'international' concerts they keep talking about. Newcastle and the Gold Coast can't attract those acts with bigger stadiums and larger populations - anyone who thinks Taylor Swift or The Weeknd is going to include Hobart on a tour needs to call me immediately as I have a bridge to sell them. Houses are f**ked. Hospitals are f**ked. Tassie's housing and health systems are significantly more stretched than the mainland states. Something like 35 rentals have been converted to Air BnBs in Hobart in the last month out of an already shallow pool, and major mental health and pre-birth care centres have closed with no real announcement on replacing them.

All of this, whilst Hobart already has a 20,000 seat stadium suitable for AFL. It's absolutely f**king bonkers that it's going ahead, the whole thing is farcical on the next level.