The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[MugaB]

You're right a city the size of Melbourne in a country like Australia that has 4 major winter football codes should have at least 2 quality rectangle stadiums to accommodate the 3 football codes that have varying needs all year round. They have built the small one(30K) which begrudgingly suited the common enemy of the 3 codes and it seems they have no intention of ever building the larger(50K) one that threatens the paranoid mongrels the most.

So the 3 rectangular codes need to stop ignoring each other and unite with one formidable voice to defeat the persistent attacks and stifling tactics of the 1 selfish dick that has plagued this country's sporting landscape for way to freakin long.

It isn't that difficult is it? They just need to be persistent, loud and smart from a marketing point of view. Lobby and recruit the media to help out. Good press is what it is all about. Pollies only do things that make them look good. If the press and public get behind it then it will happen and the only way that will ever happen is if we can get the press on our side, then the public will be swayed and then the pollies will build.

Three codes should surely have enough influence and pull in the media that can get them on board, then the rest of the dominos will quickly fall into place. It's all about perception.

Tell that to the ACT, where there is No AFL team

 

[Bukowski]

I didn't say it is. We need a new rectangular stadium that is modern and of high quality.

A new western stand delivers that.

 

[TheRam]

A new western stand delivers that.

Hardly.

 

[TheRam]

Tell that to the ACT, where there is No AFL team

Same Toilet different sh*t.

We will only get what we want if the 3 rectangular football codes unite and fight as one.

 

[Perth Red]

Same Toilet different sh*t.

We will only get what we want if the 3 rectangular football codes unite and fight as one.

whilst the three rectangular codes continue to draw sht attendances they are hardly in any position to demand 50k stadiums lol

 

[Pneuma]

whilst the three rectangular codes continue to draw sht attendances they are hardly in any position to demand 50k stadiums lol

Mr negative strikes again!

 

[TheRam]

Aami is a jewel

we should be thankful for that

people are happy Perth are going to get the nod in a virtual dump

the Victorian govt has built the perfect ground for rectangular sports in Vic

Yes AAMI good for smaller games that will only attract smaller crowds. But Melbourne is a big international city that should also have a 50K+ rectangular stadium to accommodate the games that will attract massive crowds in Soccer, Union and RL. There would be at least 15+ every year that could qualify for that and the list would grow if the stadium was located in the right place with bars and restaurants and on a train line and was state of the art quality. More and more games would be added to the calendar if they knew they had such a venue.

And that is why the AFL are and would fight it tooth and nail.

 

[Perth Red]

\There would be at least 15+ every year that could qualify for that and the list would grow if the stadium was located in the right place with bars and restaurants and on a train line and was state of the art quality. More and more games would be added to the calendar if they knew they had such a venue.

And that is why the AFL are and would fight it tooth and nail.

what? Someone put a list up of 40k plus crowds and there was only 13 or so over the last 15 years. What 15+ games are going to draw 50k fans to them in Melbourne? soccer and union draw sub 10k and storm avg around 18k.

 

[TheRam]

whilst the three rectangular codes continue to draw sht attendances they are hardly in any position to demand 50k stadiums lol

People want quality. You build it they will come. The soccer and Union internationals alone will fill it out. More would be earmarked to be played if they had such a venue. People don't want crappy bits and bob stadiums anymore. Get with the 21st century brother. You are an old fossil. Do you still drive around in an old Datsun 120Y cos you seem stuck in the last century 1980's style.

 

[Perth Red]

People want quality. You build it they will come. The soccer and Union internationals alone will fill it out. More would be earmarked to be played if they had such a venue. People don't want crappy bits and bob stadiums anymore. Get with the 21st century brother. You are an old fossil. Do you still drive around in an old Datsun 120Y cos you seem stuck in the last century 1980's style.

so whats the 15+ events a year you believe will draw 40k plus crowds to this new stadium? How many internationals do you think happen a year in one city? ho wmany 50k plus games ar eplayed in Sydney for example every eyar in the home of rectanugalr sports.

You're asking for tax payers to drop a $billion on something that isnt needed.

 

[Wb1234]

so whats the 15+ events a year you believe will draw 40k plus crowds to this new stadium? How many internationals do you think happen a year in one city? ho wmany 50k plus games ar eplayed in Sydney for example every eyar in the home of rectanugalr sports.

You're asking for tax payers to drop a $billion on something that isnt needed.

And the mcg or marvel works fine for those events as the massive crowds show

 

[Bukowski]

Hardly.

Easily. I'm guessing you've never been there?

 

[bazza]

whilst the three rectangular codes continue to draw sht attendances they are hardly in any position to demand 50k stadiums lol

I think they could join together to lobby the relevant government based on bringing big events to a new/rebuilt stadium as well as the current/future local team

 

[Perth Red]

I think they could join together to lobby the relevant government based on bringing big events to a new/rebuilt stadium as well as the current/future local team

Problem is there are very few big events that happen each year, and they are spread across competing cities. How many do you think a Govt would want to justify building a $billion stadium that sits empty for most of the year?

Then you've got places like Perth that have already spent over a $billion on a stadium and want to get maximum usage out of it, adding another 50k stadium just cannibilises the events held at Optus. It wont increase them, juts split them. It makes no fiscal sense. What perth needs is either $250mill ish spending on HBF to finish it or $600mill on a new stadium at Burswood of 30k.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

'Not actually required': AOC boss questioned over $2.7 billion decision to rebuild the Gabba

The multi-billion-dollar redevelopment of the Gabba stadium in Brisbane, which will see a heritage-listed school knocked down, was not necessary to host the 2032 Olympic Games, Australian Olympic Committee CEO reveals.

www.abc.net.au

 

[azza29]

There would be at least 15+ every year that could qualify for that

What on earth are you going on about? There are maybe two events per year here that require a rectangular field and are too big for AAMI Park, for those Marvel and the MCG are a reasonable compromise. Melbourne does not need to spend a billion dollars on some 60k seat vanity project for the occasional soccer friendly/SOO/Bledisloe match.

 

[Pneuma]

What on earth are you going on about? There are maybe two events per year here that require a rectangular field and are too big for AAMI Park, for those Marvel and the MCG are a reasonable compromise. Melbourne does not need to spend a billion dollars on some 60k seat vanity project for the occasional soccer friendly/SOO/Bledisloe match.

That’s right mate. Good old rugby league accepting second best. Play your elite games in an afl stadium? Hell why not! Have aspirations to grow your games and get bigger crowds? Naah just accept mediocrity and play in small capacity grounds because you know your place. And don’t date challenge the fumblers. Good grief no. Raise the white flag. Well played!

 

[Desert Qlder]

whilst the three rectangular codes continue to draw sht attendances they are hardly in any position to demand 50k stadiums lol

I'm loving the true colours coming through in this thread.

Perfect argument against a Perth team right here - they'll get shit attendances.

 

[Heisenberg]

There is absolutely zero reason for an 50-60k rectangular stadium in Melbourne. Sure, when AAMI is 40 years old they should consider building something bigger. but right now you should save your breathe.
This is pie in the sky stuff and to conflate it with not ‘taking the fight to AFL’ is bizarre. Imagine the AFL demanding a 100k seater in Sydney for the odd blockbuster. Please

 

[bazza]

Problem is there are very few big events that happen each year, and they are spread across competing cities. How many do you think a Govt would want to justify building a $billion stadium that sits empty for most of the year?

Then you've got places like Perth that have already spent over a $billion on a stadium and want to get maximum usage out of it, adding another 50k stadium just cannibilises the events held at Optus. It wont increase them, juts split them. It makes no fiscal sense. What perth needs is either $250mill ish spending on HBF to finish it or $600mill on a new stadium at Burswood of 30k.

depends on how many Kangaroos/SOO/Wallabies/Socceroos/Matildas/NRL/A-league games you want to promise to make it work