The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Iamback]

Any suggestion that a new stadium would attract new events to Penrith is wishful thinking at best. There isn't a single international touring event or act that would choose to play out of Penrith over the other options in Sydney.

You do realise Allianz and CommBank has limits to how many events they can have?

Particularly as both are used all year round with Sport.

I notice Sydney Showground have a concert in November, So there is clearly a need for other venues

 

[Iamback]

The reason multiple shows on a tour are done at the same venue is that it absorbs the ridiculous cost of setting, tearing down and transporting the stage.

You don't pay that cost to go 50km down the road. It's not Mick and Gazza throwing the JCM 800 and drum kit in the 1995 Hi Ace to play Penrith RSL after the Bridge Hotel the night before.

Matchbox 20 are doing Newcastle, Sydney Wollongong

Luke Coombes recently had to use Qudos because the Soccer had Allianz booked.

Motley Crue are at the Showground.

The more venues that you have, The more events you can have.

Even with them increasing the cap at Allianz, Still is only 12.

you have 3-4 of them across Sydney.
You have tripled your capacity for major events, throw in having corporate areas and can make money outside of the events

That should be the aim

 

[MugaB]

‘Hey Foo Fighters, listen, we know you’ve just sold 50,000 tickets at the Sydney Football Stadium but we were wondering if you could do another gig at a much smaller venue to justify our ridiculous overspending on a suburban football ground? Sorry what was that? f**k who? Oh, f**k me. Right, that’s what I thought you said.’

Yeah i did state "maybe not that calibre of stars"
the option would exist if the stadium was built
It could be local bands like the gurg or grinspoon, whatever etc, these types of events are held at McDonald jones and WIN stadium aswell as sydney, only being 1-2 hours away, hell it might even end up a cheaper option than holding it at sydney city

 

[Iamback]

Yeah i did state "maybe not that calibre of stars"
the option would exist if the stadium was built
It could be local bands like the gurg or grinspoon, whatever etc, these typesof events are held at McDonald jones stadium aswell as sydney, only bring 2 hours away, hell it might even end up a cheaper option than holding it at sydney city

There are events at random places all the time, Places like the Domain that aren't set up for such events.

Even Olympic Park. They have Taylor Swift on at Accor. Blink 182 at Qudos the same night- Have the option to move them somewhere else and ease the trouble to get home on a Monday night.

That is the sort of option there is with several stadiums of varying sizes in different areas of the city

 

[The Great Dane]

You do realise Allianz and CommBank has limits to how many events they can have?

Particularly as both are used all year round with Sport.

I notice Sydney Showground have a concert in November, So there is clearly a need for other venues

Sydney has never had any issues accommodating acts that need a mid-sized outdoor venue, and 90% of acts either want smaller indoor venues (e.g. The Hordern Pavilion), an area (Qudos Bank), or larger stadiums (Accor) anyway.

As you say Giants Stadium is also capable of accommodating mid-sized stadium acts, and it's lucky to host more than a handful of touring acts every few years. If it's not regularly attracting events then Penrith sure as hell won't be able to either.

There's absolutely zero demand for another outdoor venue in Sydney from touring acts, and you wouldn't build it in Penrith even if there was.

 

[The Great Dane]

Matchbox 20 are doing Newcastle, Sydney Wollongong

Luke Coombes recently had to use Qudos because the Soccer had Allianz booked.

Motley Crue are at the Showground.

The more venues that you have, The more events you can have.

Even with them increasing the cap at Allianz, Still is only 12.

you have 3-4 of them across Sydney.
You have tripled your capacity for major events, throw in having corporate areas and can make money outside of the events

That should be the aim

"We aren't interested in playing Sydney until they open a new stadium in Penrith" said no band and their tour promoter ever.

All of those events have been accommodated by Sydney without the need for another stadium in Penrith, and it's extremely rare that you'd ever have more than a couple major acts in the same city at the same time anyway.

You don't attract more events simply by having more venues available for them to use either. That simply isn't how the industry works.

 

[Chins get the wins]

Any suggestion that a new stadium would attract new events to Penrith is wishful thinking at best. There isn't a single international touring event or act that would choose to play out of Penrith over the other options in Sydney.

What complete nonsense.

 

[The Great Dane]

What complete nonsense.

I wait with anticipation for your reason as to why it's nonsense...

 

[Chins get the wins]

I wait with anticipation for your reason as to why it's nonsense...

Think of the shit country music artist that would fit perfectly for a start

 

[Timbo]

Sydney has never had any issues accommodating acts that need a mid-sized outdoor venue, and 90% of acts either want smaller indoor venues (e.g. The Hordern Pavilion), an area (Qudos Bank), or larger stadiums (Accor) anyway.

As you say Giants Stadium is also capable of accommodating mid-sized stadium acts, and it's lucky to host more than a handful of touring acts every few years. If it's not regularly attracting events then Penrith sure as hell won't be able to either.

There's absolutely zero demand for another outdoor venue in Sydney from touring acts, and you wouldn't build it in Penrith even if there was.

What bands promoter looks at a map of a city and opts to host a concert on the far fringe of the city away from the CBD and surrounded by endless suburbia, when there are two outdoor venues of the same size (Giants Stadium and CommBank Stadium) in the middle of the city they could look at, and an indoor venue (Acer Arena) not far off that they could use?

Ohhhh, that's right, there isn't one. This is just Panthers fans trying to claim they 'deserve' a shiny new stadium paid for by the taxpayer that would be used solely by them but with 'the potential' of hosting concerts.

I suppose when Global Warming really kicks in and the SFS and Parramatta are underwater it could be in with a shot?

 

[Timbo]

Yeah i did state "maybe not that calibre of stars"
the option would exist if the stadium was built
It could be local bands like the gurg or grinspoon, whatever etc, these typesof events are held at McDonald jones and WIN stadium aswell as sydney, only bring 1-2 hours away, hell it might even end up a cheaper option than holding it at sydney city

The option would be there for them to play a gig if we built it in Tamworth too but that's also a bad idea.

 

[Pjf04b]

The state opposition is asking questions regarding the government's decision to renege on the rebuild of Penrith. They say their figure of $900m is not realistic and very rubbery, made up to try and justify their decision.

 

[Pneuma]

Nice to see the negative nellies jointly kyboshing any reason for a new Stadium at Penrith. It’s part of the mentality of some rugby league fans to endlessly argue against the sport and its progress. Just like our little mate Jamberoo who constantly advocates against a fit for purpose stadium in Melbourne. There is always a reason to say no. It’s easy. Thinking expansively is too much for too many here.

 

[Munky]

The only way Penrith deserves a stadium is if the public transport infrastructure uses Penrith as a regional hub.

There are as far as I'm aware there are no plans for this.

Twelve scheduled uses for a single team is insane. Tickets will be $80 per adult as well given Bankwest was $65 in 2022.

Concerts in the warmer months would be ridiculous too given Penrith is the hottest place in Sydney.

Someone needs to FOI the business case. It'll be hilarious reading.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Pretty sure panthers fans only listen to the radiators or emimem.

 

[Timbo]

The only way Penrith deserves a stadium is if the public transport infrastructure uses Penrith as a regional hub.

There are as far as I'm aware there are no plans for this.

Twelve scheduled uses for a single team is insane. Tickets will be $80 per adult as well given Bankwest was $65 in 2022.

Concerts in the warmer months would be ridiculous too given Penrith is the hottest place in Sydney.

Someone needs to FOI the business case. It'll be hilarious reading.

I have a friend who works at treasury - she's been telling me for a while that this stadium has one of the worst cost/benefit analysis of a major works project she's seen in a very long time and that she wouldn't be surprised if it was axed (this was before it was scaled back).

 

[Timbo]

The state opposition is asking questions regarding the government's decision to renege on the rebuild of Penrith. They say their figure of $900m is not realistic and very rubbery, made up to try and justify their decision.

Oh is this the same opposition who, when in government, pulled the fictional number of $350 million for the paceway site and a new stadium in an electorate that just happened to be marginal and that they looked very likely to lose?

Couldn't have been part of a strategy to attack the new government when they cancelled it for being completely unrealistic could it?

 

[Timbo]

Nice to see the negative nellies jointly kyboshing any reason for a new Stadium at Penrith. It’s part of the mentality of some rugby league fans to endlessly argue against the sport and its progress. Just like our little mate Jamberoo who constantly advocates against a fit for purpose stadium in Melbourne. There is always a reason to say no. It’s easy. Thinking expansively is too much for too many here.

Shouldn't you be standing on Punt Road collecting gold coins to go towards Melbourne's new 500,000 seat stadium?

 

[Munky]

Pretty sure panthers fans only listen to the radiators or emimem.

Boo, I'm a Panthers fan.

I only listen to guitar based shit.

And Daft Punk.

 

[Pneuma]

Shouldn't you be standing on Punt Road collecting gold coins to go towards Melbourne's new 500,000 seat stadium?

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