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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Captain Apollo

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Looks like parking on the grass at Moore Park when the SFS/SCG are being used is to be phased out. Legislation about it is going thru the NSW parliament as I type.
 
flippikat

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Perth Red said:
Auckland needs an allianz size and quality level stadium in middle of city. It shouldn’t be this hard!
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It shouldn't be this hard, but unfortunately it is.

Even though Auckland has gone from a number of historic councils to consolidate into ONE unitary authority, there's still a lot of "legacy issues" that they're struggling with.

They really need to accept that whatever decision is made, SOMEONE will be pissed-off.

I think a new build downtown & either fully ditching Eden Park or downgrading it to community/boutique ground is the go.. and I'm not alone in that. (Downtown stadium 50-60k - new build, Eden Park downsized boutique stadium 20-25k - sell off surplus land, new cricket ground somewhere else maybe 30-40k would be ideal IMO as cricket just doesn't pull HUGE crowds)

BUT the Eden Park Trust & their constant appeals to tradition are hard to cut-through, and then you have Cricket to try and satisfy because they would likely need to relocate.
 
Perth Red

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flippikat said:
It shouldn't be this hard, but unfortunately it is.

Even though Auckland has gone from a number of historic councils to consolidate into ONE unitary authority, there's still a lot of "legacy issues" that they're struggling with.

They really need to accept that whatever decision is made, SOMEONE will be pissed-off.

I think a new build downtown & either fully ditching Eden Park or downgrading it to community/boutique ground is the go.. and I'm not alone in that. (Downtown stadium 50-60k - new build, Eden Park downsized boutique stadium 20-25k - sell off surplus land, new cricket ground somewhere else maybe 30-40k would be ideal IMO as cricket just doesn't pull HUGE crowds)

BUT the Eden Park Trust & their constant appeals to tradition are hard to cut-through, and then you have Cricket to try and satisfy because they would likely need to relocate.
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Would you need a boutique stadium? surely union, league and soccer could use the main stadium?
Selling off the land of the current stadiums would surely go a long way to paying for a 50k new stadium and 30k cricket ground?
 
flippikat

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Perth Red said:
Would you need a boutique stadium? surely union, league and soccer could use the main stadium?
Selling off the land of the current stadiums would surely go a long way to paying for a 50k new stadium and 30k cricket ground?
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Scheduling. If Union, League, Soccer & concerts can't all be accommodated in the one stadium, it makes sense to have something that can be used as a back-up/timing clash venue - plus allowing maintenance & upkeep "downtimes" for the main stadium.

Come to think of it, there's 3 candidates for that - a reduced Eden Park, Mount Smart, or North Harbour. Each with pros and cons.

[edit]. Scrub North Harbour (current capacity 25k) , looks like there's a fair chance it'll be scrapped for a 6000-8000 seat stadium, as it's main - and pretty near only - tenant North Harbour rugby union (National Provincial Championships, some club games) gets very small crowds.

www.nzherald.co.nz

North Harbour Rugby pushing for smaller stadium if current one is bulldozed

The land North Harbour sits on is worth about $100 million.
www.nzherald.co.nz www.nzherald.co.nz
 
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“It’s bordering on negligent to think that we don’t have female change rooms at these grounds. This is just unacceptable"

They then decide to play more games there.
 
Diesel

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flippikat said:
Meanwhile in Auckland, Auckland Council kicks the tyres on stadium proposals AGAIN... (sigh)

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It’s an embarrassment that NZ doesn’t have a 40k Suncorp type stadium in Auckland. Wellington is a cricket ground. By 2025 when Christchurch gets its stadium, the South Island will have 2 stadiums which are better anything in the NI
 
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flippikat said:
Scheduling. If Union, League, Soccer & concerts can't all be accommodated in the one stadium, it makes sense to have something that can be used as a back-up/timing clash venue - plus allowing maintenance & upkeep "downtimes" for the main stadium.

Come to think of it, there's 3 candidates for that - a reduced Eden Park, Mount Smart, or North Harbour. Each with pros and cons.

[edit]. Scrub North Harbour (current capacity 25k) , looks like there's a fair chance it'll be scrapped for a 6000-8000 seat stadium, as it's main - and pretty near only - tenant North Harbour rugby union (National Provincial Championships, some club games) gets very small crowds.

www.nzherald.co.nz

North Harbour Rugby pushing for smaller stadium if current one is bulldozed

The land North Harbour sits on is worth about $100 million.
www.nzherald.co.nz www.nzherald.co.nz
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Eden park rebuild would be so expensive

far better a brand new build elsewhere

the situation with the eden park trust sounds like the scg trust which used its power to get 840 million spent on allianz which wasn’t needed
 
Perth Red

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Bukowski said:
Tigers CEO
“It’s bordering on negligent to think that we don’t have female change rooms at these grounds. This is just unacceptable"

They then decide to play more games there.
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Didn’t he also say LO wasnt fit for nrl without an upgrade, then announced increasing games there lol?
 
jim_57

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Would the Warriors even play at a new stadium or redeveloped Eden Park? Any new build would be 50k at the very minimum, EP wants 60k, the group behind Waterfront “up to 70k”. I know the Eden Park 2.0 plan included a club mode, not sure about the Waterfront proposal.

Mt Smart could get to 30-35k capacity reasonably cheaply you’d think. End decision would probably rest on corporates and rent.
 
BuffaloRules

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Perth Red said:
Didn’t he also say LO wasnt fit for nrl without an upgrade, then announced increasing games there lol?
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LO is going to be used for the A league magic round as one of the three stadiums… can’t be that bad …unless the NRL has higher standards than A League

www.foxsports.com.au

APL backflips on controversial grand final deal as plans revealed for A-League’s own Magic Round

APL backflips on controversial grand final deal as plans revealed for A-League’s own Magic Round
www.foxsports.com.au www.foxsports.com.au
 
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So tigers already given up on someone buying the dogs land in Liverpool and funding a stadium for them

back to Campbelltown
 
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