The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Canard]

Yep definitely could be the case and hi 5 if the gabba is scaled back and Tassie is cancelled.

There is one problem that remains, which doesn't need to be solved right now but will need addressing in the future. Broncos, Dolphins, Jets (potentially), Reds, Roar all use one stadium and Suncorp has an event cap so something will have to give at some stage in the future and SEQ will have to develop a stadium strategy which will most likely involve a mid sized stadium. Sure, it doesn't have to be at Ipswich or Redcliffe but there will need to be one.

There definitely will be, I'd say not on this decade though, and likely not in the next.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

3 NRL teams can easily share Lang Park though.

It's clear the other minor codes are seeking a home at existing smaller facilities now.

10 AFL teams share 2 stadiums in Melbourne with no issues (and have a Rugby team, and 3 Aleague teams also as tenants for certain games)

IF (big IF) you were going to do it, the location should be centrally located, not in the boondocks

Roar and Reds have returned to Suncorp. Why? Because there is no suitable mid sized venue for them to play at. They both know Suncorp isn't ideal for them, but it's Suncorp or bust in Brisbane at the moment and a mid sizes stadium is needed.

Not sure what this boondocks comment is as a stadium situated between Logan and Ipswich captures a massive population now and an even bigger one into the future. Why do you think our evil cousins the AFL are out there.

Anyway as I said, it doesn't have to be at Ipswich or Redcliffe but I can tell you one thing, if you have a Western Corridor team come into the NRL, there will be a huge push for a stadium out there so it... you know... represents the Western Corridor. Otherwise forget it and bring back the Crushers

 

[titoelcolombiano]

There definitely will be, I'd say not on this decade though, and likely not in the next.

Yeah probably not this decade. I'd suggest it will become an issue if / when SEQ gets another NRL team due to event limits at Suncorp

 

[Wb1234]

Yep definitely could be the case and hi 5 if the gabba is scaled back and Tassie is cancelled.

There is one problem that remains, which doesn't need to be solved right now but will need addressing in the future. Broncos, Dolphins, Jets (potentially), Reds, Roar all use one stadium and Suncorp has an event cap so something will have to give at some stage in the future and SEQ will have to develop a stadium strategy which will most likely involve a mid sized stadium. Sure, it doesn't have to be at Ipswich or Redcliffe but there will need to be one.

Small clubs like the roar and reds can move out to Ballymore or kayo

with their current crows both the roar and reds can’t afford the rent anyway

 

[Iamback]

Yeah probably not this decade. I'd suggest it will become an issue if / when SEQ gets another NRL team due to event limits at Suncorp

You are looking at atleast 20 years post olympics before something is built.

To have Suncorp as the only viable ground for all the extra usage in 2050 is just crazy

 

[Perth Red]

I can see it from the roar and reds clubs point of view but whats in it for Govt? They are hardly going to splash hundreds of millions just to have suncorp less utilised meaning greater running costs to cover for the remaining tenants or govt to pick up.

 

[Iamback]

I can see it from the roar and reds clubs point of view but whats in it for Govt? They are hardly going to splash hundreds of millions just to have suncorp less utilised meaning greater running costs to cover for the remaining tenants or govt to pick up.

There are only so many days it can be used for.

What is better for them Broncos NRLW side in a govt run stadium or playing elsewhere because Suncorp is used?

 

[Perth Red]

There are only so many days it can be used for.

What is better for them Broncos NRLW side in a govt run stadium or playing elsewhere because Suncorp is used?

Broncos NRLW? They could use Ballymore for the few hundred that go watch them.

Days of use can be changed, didnt the Govt change concerts from 6 events to 12 events last year?

Even if, and its probably a long way off, there is a third Brisbane club (and if its QLnd Firehawks they are talking about taking 25% of games regional) 2/3 FT tenants and 1/2 PT ones in winter at Suncorp isnt overkill. NRl plays Thurs-Sun so hardly like there will be a clash of KO times needed.

Im sure Roar and Reds would love a new 20-25k central stadium with cheap rent to play out of, but they are very unlikely to get one and outer suburb stadiums wont cut it for their city wide fanbases as we saw at Kayo.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

AFL Red, City of Brisbane expert.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Broncos NRLW? They could use Ballymore for the few hundred that go watch them.

Days of use can be changed, didnt the Govt change concerts from 6 events to 12 events last year?

Even if, and its probably a long way off, there is a third Brisbane club (and if its QLnd Firehawks they are talking about taking 25% of games regional) 2/3 FT tenants and 1/2 PT ones in winter at Suncorp isnt overkill. NRl plays Thurs-Sun so hardly like there will be a clash of KO times needed.

Im sure Roar and Reds would love a new 20-25k central stadium with cheap rent to play out of, but they are very unlikely to get one and outer suburb stadiums wont cut it for their city wide fanbases as we saw at Kayo.

You mean as we saw from the Kayo sold out matches? We don't know how big the crowds would have been if the ground had held 25k, but it would have been a heap more than 10k

 

[Perth Red]

You mean as we saw from the Kayo sold out matches? We don't know how big the crowds would have been if the ground had held 25k, but it would have been a heap more than 10k

I was talking about the Roar playing at KAyo not the Dolphins. Their crowds dropped about 40% there and they themselves mentioned they were moving back to suncorp as it was too hard for their fans to get to.

 

[Captain Apollo]

AFL Red, City of Brisbane expert.

Don't you mean "AFL Red, City of (insert name of Australian City) Expert?

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

AFL Red, City of Brisbane expert.

Beat me to it .
reminds me of that AFL nutter Cos
lives in WA but an expert on all sports in the Eastern states..
Probably the same person …cos hated RL too

 

[beave]

30k QCB style stadium at Springfield.

You know it makes sense.............

 

[Iamback]

Broncos NRLW? They could use Ballymore for the few hundred that go watch them.

Days of use can be changed, didnt the Govt change concerts from 6 events to 12 events last year?

Even if, and its probably a long way off, there is a third Brisbane club (and if its QLnd Firehawks they are talking about taking 25% of games regional) 2/3 FT tenants and 1/2 PT ones in winter at Suncorp isnt overkill. NRl plays Thurs-Sun so hardly like there will be a clash of KO times needed.

Im sure Roar and Reds would love a new 20-25k central stadium with cheap rent to play out of, but they are very unlikely to get one and outer suburb stadiums wont cut it for their city wide fanbases as we saw at Kayo.

NRLW will grow. Particularly once all sides get someone in.

I am sure the Reds won't want RL using the ground the day of the game. Start and end of the season you need to juggle the Roar and their W side.

As poor as the A League teams are going they are expanding. No way as the population grows up there. Are the Roar the only QLD team.

No one has said where the Rugby 7's or Soccer will be played.

A little 25-30k seater will be perfect for the lesser games.

I mean the QCup GF is played at Kayo Stadium. Hardly a great look in a RL state

 

[TheEroticGamer]

Dolphins shouldn’t be playing any games away from Suncorp. The entire point of their inclusion was to have a game there every week. What happened to that?

A prospective Ipswich team shouldn’t have to compensate for that by playing away from their area. Yes, there’s clubs in Sydney that are incredibly pedantic about not travelling a few minutes extra to play out of a better, more central facility. But we’re not talking about somewhere like Cooparoo here. We’re talking about a 40min+ away area that will soon have a population of over 500k people in its immediate area, even ignoring its surrounds. They’re more of a Penrith than an inner city area like Leichhardt.

The govt will build a sufficient facility there eventually. Soon? No. But the numbers don’t lie; they’re bonkers. One day.

 

[The Great Dane]

Dolphins shouldn’t be playing any games away from Suncorp. The entire point of their inclusion was to have a game there every week. What happened to that?

The inability of the out of touch geriatrics whom control this sport to take off their rose tinted glasses for a second and get over their nostalgia for the mid-late 20th century is what happened to the second Brisbane side playing full time out of Suncorp. The fact that the Dolphins refused to play all their games at Suncorp should have been enough to rule them out.

A prospective Ipswich team shouldn’t have to compensate for that by playing away from their area. Yes, there’s clubs in Sydney that are incredibly pedantic about not travelling a few minutes extra to play out of a better, more central facility. But we’re not talking about somewhere like Cooparoo here. We’re talking about a 40min+ away area that will soon have a population of over 500k people in its immediate area, even ignoring its surrounds. They’re more of a Penrith than an inner city area like Leichhardt.

The govt will build a sufficient facility there eventually. Soon? No. But the numbers don’t lie; they’re bonkers. One day.

People aren't saying that the third Brisbane team should have to play out of Suncorp to compensate for the Dolphins.

What they're saying is that we know from our experiences in Sydney that having lots of little clubs playing out of single tenant venues spread across the disparate parts of the city is a really dumb way to organise a football league, and that it'd be insane to repeat those mistakes in Brisbane given that we now know that.

Besides, a third team in Brisbane shouldn't be based in Ipswich anyway. If it happens it should be centrally located on the south side of river because that's the region of the city closest to the pre-existing infrastructure and with the heaviest population density that isn't represented in the NRL. That's where the second side should have been located, and everybody with a functioning frontal lobe knows it.

 

[Iamback]

The inability of the out of touch geriatrics whom control this sport to take off their rose tinted glasses for a second and get over their nostalgia for the mid-late 20th century is what happened to the second Brisbane side playing full time out of Suncorp. The fact that the Dolphins refused to play all their games at Suncorp should have been enough to rule them out.

People aren't saying that the third Brisbane team should have to play out of Suncorp to compensate for the Dolphins.

What they're saying is that we know from our experiences in Sydney that having lots of little clubs playing out of single tenant venues spread across the disparate parts of the city is a really dumb way to organise a football league, and that it'd be insane to repeat those mistakes in Brisbane given that we now know that.

Besides, a third team in Brisbane shouldn't be based in Ipswich anyway. If it happens it should be centrally located on the south side of river because that's the region of the city closest to the pre-existing infrastructure and with the heaviest population density that isn't represented in the NRL. That's where the second side should have been located, and everybody with a functioning frontal lobe knows it.

So much wrong with this.

point 1. Having a 2nd Centrally located Brisbane side makes zero sense.

Dolphins hit the North. The trade off is a game or 2 to keep fans and sponsors in that part happy.

Same would apply if an Ipswich/Western Corridor came in, You will get Brisbane people but also Toowoomba is closer.

That is why you expand. Only looking after central Brisbane is just a dots on the map exercise and makes zero sense

 

[Wb1234]

So much wrong with this.

point 1. Having a 2nd Centrally located Brisbane side makes zero sense.

Dolphins hit the North. The trade off is a game or 2 to keep fans and sponsors in that part happy.

Same would apply if an Ipswich/Western Corridor came in, You will get Brisbane people but also Toowoomba is closer.

That is why you expand. Only looking after central Brisbane is just a dots on the map exercise and makes zero sense

The concept of geographic spread seems alien to him

given his local afl side sharks Canberra and homebush I though he would understand it better

 

[Iamback]

The concept of geographic spread seems alien to him

given his local afl side sharks Canberra and homebush I though he would understand it better

Nah Broncos are too big. We should be taking fans and sponsors from them... some people have no idea