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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Jamberoo

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Lol renovating suburban dumps will stop kids getting fat. Some stretch!
Just checked the prices @ Leichhardt and at over $20 for GA for and $30+ for a seat, not many six year old Tiger fans will be slimming down. Kids should be $5 - $10 max.
 

Swarzey

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I'm not sure if there's really a point renovating suburban grounds when teams are still going to prefer to play out of ANZ due to the profit. Suburban grounds aren't cheap to play out of (bar Brookvale but that's because the place is an absolute shit hole) unless you're private like Cronulla; they're never going to be able to justify the spending on those grounds as long as there's a better, more profitable option regardless of the turnout.
 

Perth Red

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Really only talking about 3 square pegs though, Sharks, Panthers and Manly. Everyone else can and should be playing out of WSS or Allianz. How you can find $150mill each and upkeep for those 3 grounds when you're only getting 10-12 games at them is the difficult thing.
 

Suitman

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Really only talking about 3 square pegs though, Sharks, Panthers and Manly. Everyone else can and should be playing out of WSS or Allianz. How you can find $150mill each and upkeep for those 3 grounds when you're only getting 10-12 games at them is the difficult thing.

Exactly.
It would be political suicide for any govt to upgrade some of these suburban grounds for what is a maximum of them being used to a decent capacity for 12 days out of 365 days of any year. Absolute stupidity.
Brookvale is a lost cause. Forget it, and it may well see the eventual demise of Manly.
Kogarah and Penrith will kick on maybe for a decade or so, but even then, they will be past their use by date.
Leichhardt has nothing more going for it than nostalgia. I have some great memories of game days there, but in reality, it's a shithole.
Campbelltown - is probably the best chance of getting some funds, but only if another A-League team starts up in the south west.
The Sharks own their own ground so that's their problem.
 

AlwaysGreen

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If these suburban grounds were packed out every game for a sustained period of time than governments might consider contributing money for upgrades.

Theyre never going to shell out money to build or upgrade stadiums in the hope that people turn up.

That would be fiscally irresponsible
 

titoelcolombiano

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Really only talking about 3 square pegs though, Sharks, Panthers and Manly. Everyone else can and should be playing out of WSS or Allianz. How you can find $150mill each and upkeep for those 3 grounds when you're only getting 10-12 games at them is the difficult thing.

I agree with this Penrith, Sharks and Manly are the grounds that we need to find solutions for. Sharks hopefully will get private money into their stadium soon - I don't see any option for Manly except Allianz or the Central Coast. I would not want to see Penrith having to play out of WSS so hopefully we are only needing to solve one stadium problem in the future which is Panther's Stadium.
 
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I agree with this Penrith, Sharks and Manly are the grounds that we need to find solutions for. Sharks hopefully will get private money into their stadium soon - I don't see any option for Manly except Allianz or the Central Coast. I would not want to see Penrith having to play out of WSS so hopefully we are only needing to solve one stadium problem in the future which is Panther's Stadium.

One good thing going is that Penrith Park has some solid bones and end to end sideline grandstands.
It could be a gem of a boutique 25k seater with relatively little investment.
 

siv

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Really only talking about 3 square pegs though, Sharks, Panthers and Manly. Everyone else can and should be playing out of WSS or Allianz. How you can find $150mill each and upkeep for those 3 grounds when you're only getting 10-12 games at them is the difficult thing.

You will find those suburban grounds are also used for other sports, junior RL rep matches and local A grade matches
 

titoelcolombiano

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Redcliffe have a successful leagues club, own their ground and have a shopping precinct built on the land around their ground and they are upgrading their stadium to 10k seats plus however many can fit on the hill at the non-leagues club end. If they can do it I can certainly see the sharks getting a small 20k stadium built.
 

Billythekid

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If these suburban grounds were packed out every game for a sustained period of time than governments might consider contributing money for upgrades.

Theyre never going to shell out money to build or upgrade stadiums in the hope that people turn up.

That would be fiscally irresponsible

Exactly. Why should they risk spending all that money when most of the time these suburban grounds struggle to pull bigger crowds than 12-13K. If the fans start showing up in numbers and demonstrate a demand for these stadiums governments might budge but they would be crazy too right now.

I guarantee that if Penrith for example sold out every single game there would be plenty of calls to upgrade the stadium.

We should be cutting down the amount of stadiums and making sure we actually have all quality ones instead of limping along with shit like brookvale.
 

Suitman

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May 9th.
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The following story was published in today's Sydney Morning Herald -

Wests Tigers eye new western stadium as permanent home base
By Christian Nicolussi11 May 2018 — 12:00am

Wests Tigers will meet with Western Sydney Stadium bosses in the next fortnight to begin talks about making the new $300 million venue their permanent home.

A day after coach Ivan Cleary told Fairfax Media about his hopes of one day having the Tigers play out of the one venue - not five different grounds - to create a genuine game-day advantage, club chief executive Justin Pascoe said the new Parramatta-based stadium had plenty of appeal.

Pascoe said Leichhardt Oval and Campbelltown Stadium would continue to be used but just how many games were taken to those popular suburban venues would be reviewed.

The Tigers are midway through a deal with ANZ Stadium, which does not expire until the end of the 2023 season.

The deal requires the Tigers to play at least four NRL games a season there and ANZ officials are given the first four picks of what games they would like to host.

However, with ANZ Stadium due to be ripped down and rebuilt at a cost of $810 million at the end of 2019 the Tigers will need a new regular home.

The Tigers like the idea of the new 30,000-capacity purpose-built Western Sydney Stadium, which will already house Parramatta.

Should a deal be struck and it is a success, the Tigers will give thought to never returning to ANZ Stadium - nor possibly Leichhardt and Campbelltown.

"We'll meet in the new couple of weeks with [stadium boss] Daryl Kerry,'' Pascoe told Fairfax Media.

"We'll see what opportunities exist and how they stack up against our strategic objectives of continual fan engagement.

"The appeal is it's a brand-new stadium with brand-new facilities for the members, corporates and players to use pre and post-game.

"Everything is on the table at the moment and no decisions have been made.

"This is the fifth year of a 10-year deal with ANZ Stadium. But works at the stadium are due to begin at the end of 2019 so we're looking at what other opportunities there are.''

The 10-year deal at ANZ Stadium was struck by the Tigers' former management and the financial sweeteners to take games there, which amount to roughly $200,000 a match, will cease at the end of this season.

Leichhardt Oval and Campbelltown Stadium create the best game-day atmosphere, especially Leichhardt on a Sunday afternoon.

The Tigers hosted North Queensland in the inner west on Thursday night and their round-23 match against St George Illawarra on a Saturday evening is expected to sell out a month in advance, especially if the Tigers remain in the top eight.

Pascoe knows the suburban grounds are a highlight for so many of the members but is also mindful of making sure the Tigers are financially viable.

There are no rules that require games to be played at Leichhardt and Campbelltown, nor an even split of matches. It would be a bold move to abandon those grounds altogether.

"Let's just say there are no plans not to play at those grounds but there are a raft of other things to consider and how we best utilise this current deal,'' Pascoe said.

Even though the Western Sydney Stadium is located in Parramatta the NRL is prepared to sell the new ground as the property of the west, not the Eels.

One drawback for the Tigers taking games to the venue is the fact their members will likely prop up neighbouring and rival Parramatta Leagues Club.

The new stadium is expected to open in April 2019, meaning the Eels - and possibly Tigers - will need to play their first few games of the NRL season away from home.

Cleary's hopes of gaining an on-field advantage from one permanent home were inspired by the fact the Tigers had already used ANZ Stadium, Campbelltown, Mt Smart Stadium, Tamworth and Leichhardt to host games in the opening 10 rounds.

So the financial sweetners for the Tigers to play at ANZ cease to be paid after this year, and are at around $200,000 per match.
 

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