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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

AlwaysGreen

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https://www.canberratimes.com.au/canberra-news/canberra-now-raiders-reveal-northbourne-oval-plan-pets-on-buses-20180503-p4zd97.html

Raiders lodge 'spiritual home' development application

The master plan for the Canberra raiders new training facility, as well as apartments and commercial space, in Braddon.

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This application has been a long time coming. The Canberra Raiders have been talking about building a new training centre at Northbourne Oval for years, and now they have lodged the development application so we can have a look at what's on the cards.
$15million, so about a tenth of The Stick's annual football budget
 
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https://www.canberratimes.com.au/canberra-news/canberra-now-raiders-reveal-northbourne-oval-plan-pets-on-buses-20180503-p4zd97.html

Raiders lodge 'spiritual home' development application

The master plan for the Canberra raiders new training facility, as well as apartments and commercial space, in Braddon.

Photo: Supplied
Advertisement
This application has been a long time coming. The Canberra Raiders have been talking about building a new training centre at Northbourne Oval for years, and now they have lodged the development application so we can have a look at what's on the cards.

cool
 

Suitman

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Concrete being poured today at the new Cowboys stadium.
Seems a bit slow to get going this one. I thinks it's due to the amount of sub-surface piling that was required.

stadium.png
 

Billythekid

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Concrete being poured today at the new Cowboys stadium.
Seems a bit slow to get going this one. I thinks it's due to the amount of sub-surface piling that was required.

stadium.png

Why do you keep going off topic and posting progress of the future stadiums? Could you try and make your posts a little less informative and useful in the future, they just don't fit in on this forum.
 

The Great Dane

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https://www.canberratimes.com.au/canberra-news/canberra-now-raiders-reveal-northbourne-oval-plan-pets-on-buses-20180503-p4zd97.html

Raiders lodge 'spiritual home' development application

The master plan for the Canberra raiders new training facility, as well as apartments and commercial space, in Braddon.

Photo: Supplied
Advertisement
This application has been a long time coming. The Canberra Raiders have been talking about building a new training centre at Northbourne Oval for years, and now they have lodged the development application so we can have a look at what's on the cards.

That land is prime rel-estate, building a glorified training facility on it is so, so dumb...

They could build an apartment block or just a giant car park on it and make a fortune off it, or could go into business with a developer and build a reasonably sized stadium with a car park, retail facilities, and whatever, basically in the heart of the city and a street away from a trendy part of the city with plenty of bars, restaurants, etc, (see Lonsdale St on the left hand side of the map, that is basically all restaurants and pubs and it's literally a block away from the centre of the city), they could do all sorts of really, really productive things with that land that would be a huge asset to the club, but no we're going to build a "centre of excellence" that could be built anywhere in the city and still serve it's purpose, hell build the centre of excellence at Seiffert in Queanbeyan and get the NSW government grant to help build it.

Don't get me wrong, it's great that the club is trying to update their facilities and build better training facilities and all that, and good luck to them in that endeavor, but this isn't the place to do it, that land is too valuable to waste on something like that when it could be making huge returns for the club if it was developed properly.
 

Canard

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Concrete being poured today at the new Cowboys stadium.
Seems a bit slow to get going this one. I thinks it's due to the amount of sub-surface piling that was required.

stadium.png

There's all sorts of shit that goes underground not just the piles.

Heaps of other services and lots of compaction of the soil etc.

Half of any Civil Engineering project is buried underground.
 

Suitman

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There's all sorts of shit that goes underground not just the piles.

Heaps of other services and lots of compaction of the soil etc.

Half of any Civil Engineering project is buried underground.

Yep, fully aware of that. I'm in the industry. The main reason has been the piling though. The below ground services wouldn't hold that up.
Anyway, it still seems slow progress. So far anyway. I'm sure it will speed up.
 

taipan

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Concrete being poured today at the new Cowboys stadium.
Seems a bit slow to get going this one. I thinks it's due to the amount of sub-surface piling that was required.

stadium.png

ATM It looks like one of those reclaimed coral atolls in the South china Sea ,the Chinese have made into airbases.
 

colly

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...s/news-story/55f6390aa21bce4369eb048d46421282
If behind paywall the following in the TELE By the Sloth

RACING NSW supremo Peter V’landys has vowed to use his new role as an NRL independent commissioner to help save Sydney’s ageing suburban grounds from oblivion.

V’landys is an old-school fan of the tribalism and atmosphere from playing and viewing games at WIN Stadium, Brookvale Oval, Leichhardt, Belmore Sports Ground, Shark Park, Campbelltown, Kogarah and Penrith.

Whilst initially reluctant to comment, V’landys was encouraged to speak up by NRL Chairman Peter Beattie on the venue issues.
He fully supports the NSW government’s stadium in investment at Parramatta, Allianz and ANZ but wants to ensure rugby league will always be played in Sydney’s suburbs.

The State Government is knocking down Allianz Stadium and rebuilding the venue at a cost of $730 million, building a new $350 million venue at Parramatta and spending $810 million on redeveloping ANZ Stadium at Homebush.

Yet no money has been committed to the suburban venues.
“Tribal followings come from being active attendees at games and having families in Sydney attending suburban grounds is imperative to the future popularity of the game,” V’landys said.

“It’s absolutely shameful that an international, cosmopolitan city like Sydney does not have rugby league stadiums that are world class.

“I’m 100 per cent supportive of the NSW Government’s initiatives that will see Parramatta, Allianz and ANZ stadiums rebuilt or upgraded.

“However, I’m also strongly of the belief that suburban grounds have an important role to play and should also be upgraded for today’s entertainment venue standards.

“With today’s entertainment expectations, the grounds don’t cut it.”
The V’landys plan has the support of the NRL’s television networks, Fox Sports and Channel 9, whose bosses are sick of broadcasting matches featuring thousands of empty seats as the backdrop.

Under V’landys’ watch at Racing NSW, he enticed the government to support and revamp Royal Randwick into one of the world’s great spectator racing venues. The $150 million facility was completed in 2013.

He has strong connections in government and the high-end business contacts to ensure his push to improve suburban venues will be taken seriously.
“These days people paying for entertainment expect to get good access to toilets, to buy a beer and a meal and get a comfortable seat,” he said.

“We have to be doing everything in our power to entice people, especially the younger generation, to the grounds so that they can experience the passion, the excitement and pulsating atmosphere of watching live footy.

“It’s a particularly important challenge now that the television coverage is so good.”
V’landy says more fans and better facilities will have enormous economic and social benefits.

“Boys and girls experiencing this will want to participate and be part of the game,” he says.

“This gets them away from playing games on computers for hours on end.

“One example of economic benefit is that exercise has enormous health benefits and tackles the obesity epidemic which in turn reduces the strain on our health system.

“The participation increase not only benefits the health of kids but also assists with their personal development in being part of a team and the social outcomes coming from this.”
V’landys was himself a handy rugby league player growing up in Wollongong.

He played in the same junior league alongside legendary NSW and Kangaroos forward Steve Roach and former Australian fullback Gary Jack.

“I joined the commission to hopefully pay back the debt I owe because it was playing rugby league as part of a team that had enormous impact on shaping my future,” he said.

“The Victorians and the AFL must jump with joy every time we fight amongst ourselves on spending moneys on sporting grounds.
 

colly

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...s/news-story/55f6390aa21bce4369eb048d46421282
If behind paywall the following in the TELE By the Sloth

RACING NSW supremo Peter V’landys has vowed to use his new role as an NRL independent commissioner to help save Sydney’s ageing suburban grounds from oblivion.

V’landys is an old-school fan of the tribalism and atmosphere from playing and viewing games at WIN Stadium, Brookvale Oval, Leichhardt, Belmore Sports Ground, Shark Park, Campbelltown, Kogarah and Penrith.

Whilst initially reluctant to comment, V’landys was encouraged to speak up by NRL Chairman Peter Beattie on the venue issues.
He fully supports the NSW government’s stadium in investment at Parramatta, Allianz and ANZ but wants to ensure rugby league will always be played in Sydney’s suburbs.

The State Government is knocking down Allianz Stadium and rebuilding the venue at a cost of $730 million, building a new $350 million venue at Parramatta and spending $810 million on redeveloping ANZ Stadium at Homebush.

Yet no money has been committed to the suburban venues.
“Tribal followings come from being active attendees at games and having families in Sydney attending suburban grounds is imperative to the future popularity of the game,” V’landys said.

“It’s absolutely shameful that an international, cosmopolitan city like Sydney does not have rugby league stadiums that are world class.

“I’m 100 per cent supportive of the NSW Government’s initiatives that will see Parramatta, Allianz and ANZ stadiums rebuilt or upgraded.

“However, I’m also strongly of the belief that suburban grounds have an important role to play and should also be upgraded for today’s entertainment venue standards.

“With today’s entertainment expectations, the grounds don’t cut it.”
The V’landys plan has the support of the NRL’s television networks, Fox Sports and Channel 9, whose bosses are sick of broadcasting matches featuring thousands of empty seats as the backdrop.

Under V’landys’ watch at Racing NSW, he enticed the government to support and revamp Royal Randwick into one of the world’s great spectator racing venues. The $150 million facility was completed in 2013.

He has strong connections in government and the high-end business contacts to ensure his push to improve suburban venues will be taken seriously.
“These days people paying for entertainment expect to get good access to toilets, to buy a beer and a meal and get a comfortable seat,” he said.

“We have to be doing everything in our power to entice people, especially the younger generation, to the grounds so that they can experience the passion, the excitement and pulsating atmosphere of watching live footy.

“It’s a particularly important challenge now that the television coverage is so good.”
V’landy says more fans and better facilities will have enormous economic and social benefits.

“Boys and girls experiencing this will want to participate and be part of the game,” he says.

“This gets them away from playing games on computers for hours on end.

“One example of economic benefit is that exercise has enormous health benefits and tackles the obesity epidemic which in turn reduces the strain on our health system.

“The participation increase not only benefits the health of kids but also assists with their personal development in being part of a team and the social outcomes coming from this.”
V’landys was himself a handy rugby league player growing up in Wollongong.

He played in the same junior league alongside legendary NSW and Kangaroos forward Steve Roach and former Australian fullback Gary Jack.

“I joined the commission to hopefully pay back the debt I owe because it was playing rugby league as part of a team that had enormous impact on shaping my future,” he said.

“The Victorians and the AFL must jump with joy every time we fight amongst ourselves on spending moneys on sporting grounds.

I have said before that nearly all Suburban should be renovated.
 
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I have said before that nearly all Suburban should be renovated.

With what money?

You’d need $750 million (total) to bring them up to a decent standard

$150 million brookvale

$75 million Leichhardt (less money b/c less games)

$150 million shark park

$150 million Penrith

$150 million for Campbelltown

$75 million for win
 

macavity

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With what money?

You’d need $750 million (total) to bring them up to a decent standard

$150 million brookvale

$75 million Leichhardt (less money b/c less games)

$150 million shark park

$150 million Penrith

$150 million for Campbelltown

$75 million for win

Stop with the stupid knock down/rebuild of Allianz.... and if it really is a danger to everyone spend $150mil turning it into the suburban club ground it actually is, and voila, we can do it.
 

Prometheus

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Broadcasters are sick of showing games with no one in the stands........ but yet they are responsible for the timeslots that cause said empty stands.

Were average crowd numbers any higher back when most of the games were played on Sunday afternoons and weren't all televised?

Does anybody know?
 

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