The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Suitman]

Anyway...…Parramatta.

 

[TheFrog]

You cannot spend a cent on the structure of Town Hall without completely shutting down the city circle.

Oh I see, its hard so we just won't do it.

 

[Suitman]

Oh I see, its hard so we just won't do it.

Well, maybe we can.
Wynyard which is built similarly to Town Hall, has just had a major upgrade.
Anything is possible.

 

[Yosemite Sam]

Oh I see, its hard so we just won't do it.

FMD

Did you read the second half of my comment? Expanding the platforms at town hall is not possible due to engineering restraints, no matter how much money you throw at it.

There is a far better solution and they're building it. Anyone against the metro is clearly misinformed or just ignorant. As soon as it is built more lines will follow.

 

[herbert henry1908]

No, but a 35-40k stadium with a freakin roof would be perfect.

In some ways I hope that they knock down the SFS and then Labor kibosh's the building of the new one. Then the site just sits there for a year or two while the wankers argue and play their dicky little to and fro games. During this skirmish time, the SCG Trust falls victim and is dismantled/sacked.

Then the real stakeholders, all the rectangular playing sports, Government and the fans come to a compromise of sorts, but this time some bright spark/s convinces them that the best bleeding possible site and size would be a 35-40k roofed Stadium above Central Station. Wow now I'm wet.

Then I realised I just got slapped in the face with a glass of cold water known as reality and woke up.

If you built a stadium over central it’d have to be bigger IMO. Such a location would be wasted on only club footy, you’d want the Grand Final, Origin etc there. It’d be a true destination.

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/11/29/nsw-headquarters-allianz

While the funding for the new HQ is secure, there has been a level of uncertainty thrown up this week about the rebuild of Allianz Stadium; the home venue of the Waratahs.

New opposition leader Michael Daley this week announced he “would not spend a single cent” on the project if elected as Premier in March, despite planning approval for the stadium’s demolition expected this week. It is already fenced off and decommissioned.

The Waratahs have announced a schedule of games at alternate venues across NSW for 2019.

“I am very disappointed that no-one from Mr Daley's office has been in touch,” Hore said.

“The simple fact of the matter is we are playing in stadiums next year, for example Western Sydney stadium will have ten times the amount of spots where people with a disability can watch the game. There will four times the number of women's toilet facilities. If we want to be the sport we say we are, we can't stay at Allianz Stadium.

“It's a dump. It's been a great servant to us but it is time to go.

“We didn't have any consultation with Mr Daley, he hasn't heard our concerns and what he has to be careful of is this effects a lot of employed people ... and that stadium is there to generate revenues to feed the entire game.

“And that's just our sport. If you extrapolate that over all the sports who play there, plus over 100,000 members between the sports that play there, it's a very bold statement.

“And one that I would seriously question whether he can deliver upon. A contract is a contract, and do you really want to be known as a government that breaks a contract?”

 

[Perth Red]

Labor in WA stopped construction of a $1.9billion major link road that was under way when it came into power. Estimated to have cost them $156million. Its possible for them to walk away and given they have made it an election issue it is highly unlikely they would backtrack if elected. They could compromise though with just one project and the rest going to health and education.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa...8-project-ng-0bdc76893796a894a257c00a6493951d

 

[El Diablo]

who f**kin' cares about some road in WA?

 

[TheRam]

If you built a stadium over central it’d have to be bigger IMO. Such a location would be wasted on only club footy, you’d want the Grand Final, Origin etc there. It’d be a true destination.

Not really. Events that can get upwards of 50k will always be able to get those figures at ANZ, like the GF, SOO, Int Soccer...e.t.c.

I want club foot that struggles to get 15k, to be the beneficiary by having a stadium built in a location and quality that make it virtually impossible for crowds to stay away even if they aren't massive fans of RL or any particular club.

It is sort of like putting the Easter weekend Parra vs Wests game on as the very first game at the new WSS. What a joke, that game always draws upwards of 40k anyway. That can easily still be played at ANZ and the crowds will come. So they have actually lessened the crowd for that game.

This location can deliver that in spades. Unlike More Park, which after the initial hype will basically go back to it slumber self.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Not really. Events that can get upwards of 50k will always be able to get those figures at ANZ, like the GF, SOO, Int Soccer...e.t.c.

I want club foot that struggles to get 15k, to be the beneficiary by having a stadium built in a location and quality that make it virtually impossible for crowds to stay away even if they aren't massive fans of RL or any particular club.

It is sort of like putting the Easter weekend Parra vs Wests game on as the very first game at the new WSS. What a joke, that game always draws upwards of 40k anyway. That can easily still be played at ANZ and the crowds will come. So they have actually lessened the crowd for that game.

This location can deliver that in spades. Unlike More Park, which after the initial hype will basically go back to it slumber self.

The bigger the event, the more people travel from country NSW, interstate & even sometimes overseas. To me a stadium in the inner city would be a tourist drawcard. Combining a big event & the inner city is more likely to draw more people from outside of Sydney.

 

[herbert henry1908]

FMD

Did you read the second half of my comment? Expanding the platforms at town hall is not possible due to engineering restraints, no matter how much money you throw at it.

There is a far better solution and they're building it. Anyone against the metro is clearly misinformed or just ignorant. As soon as it is built more lines will follow.

Yep, big advantage of the metro is the opportunity to keep adding to the network. This is much easier than adding to the existing network as tunneling so single deck trains is quicker & cheaper. There’s basically no option at this point other than to tunnel all new train lines. There’s no above ground corridors.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Oh I see, its hard so we just won't do it.

You’re just being stubborn. Town Hall is almost at capacity right now, having more people flow into the area would be ridiculous. The new system will spread out the travellers, better for emergencies, better for congestion.

 

[Suitman]

who f**kin' cares about some road in WA?

Shut the f**k up.

 

[beave]

f**king hanky head at it again.

Don’t sign on dotted line yet: Sanity on stadiums might yet prevail
Peter FitzSimons

Bloody hell, who saw that coming? I refer to the announcement on Tuesday by the new Opposition Leader, Michael Daley, that when it comes to stopping #StadiumSplurge, he is as serious as a ruptured testicle, and those who don’t get it risk receiving one of their own. Or something like that.

‘‘I’m saying very clearly to the SCG Trust today: do not sign contracts for the demolition of this stadium. Do not demolish this stadium. If you do, you will not get a single cent of free public money from me if I am elected premier in March of next year.’’

Could he be clearer? I think not. Politically, I believe it very astute. As I have ranted many times, using taxpayer dollars to knock down modern sporting infrastructure and replacing it with state-of-the-art stadiums is an outrageous waste of public resources – and the public strongly agrees. All the reasons given for the move don’t amount to a hill of beans, and Daley making clear that the SCG Trust knocks it down at their peril means that sanity might prevail.

AdvertisementThe NSW Government, of course, maintains it does have support, with Sports Minister Stuart Ayres even maintaining that they took it to the last election and therefore have a mandate. Nonsense. And on an issue as important as this, it is an outrage for the government to ram it through. Leave it standing. Let the people decide at the coming election, due early next year.

As to the threat from NRL CEO Todd Greenberg that they will take the NRL grand final elsewhere if the taxpayers don’t cough up ... I call bullshit. As someone noted on Twitter, there can be no doubt that the NRL needs Sydney a hell of a lot more than Sydney needs the NRL. And sure, a grand final between the Broncos and Cowboys would go well for the famously parochial Queenslanders north of the Tweed. But say the Melbourne Storm and the Canberra Raiders make the grand final. Who actually thinks you’d fill Suncorp Stadium with that line-up? Exactly.

And if I am wrong, and Greenberg does move the grand final to Brissie, so what? The truth is that the TV coverage is so good these days, more and more people prefer to watch it on the box anyway. Besides which, the whole point of calling it the National Rugby League was to highlight that the game was played more widely than NSW.

In sum, the NRL would be crazy to move the grand final away from its biggest market, but even if it did, we in Sydney would somehow manage.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/don-t-...adiums-might-yet-prevail-20181130-p50jit.html

 

[El Diablo]

Shut the f**k up.

suck my dick

 

[gallagher]

who f**kin' cares about some road in WA?

Sharks fans in a few years looking for their home ground??

 

[King hit]

Fitzsimons does have a point about the grand final in Brisbane having non queensland teams being a potential problem. There are merits of having the GF at Suncorp off course but I do wonder how the locals would get behind it if it was a Manly V Roosters game so to speak. I know quite a few people that tune out of the NRL if there are no queensland teams playing.

 

[Canard]

Fitzsimons does have a point about the grand final in Brisbane having non queensland teams being a potential problem. There are merits of having the GF at Suncorp off course but I do wonder how the locals would get behind it if it was a Manly V Roosters game so to speak. I know quite a few people that tune out of the NRL if there are no queensland teams playing.

The GF is an major event, due to the rarity of it being played interstate it wouldn't matter who is involved.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Fitzsimons does have a point about the grand final in Brisbane having non queensland teams being a potential problem. There are merits of having the GF at Suncorp off course but I do wonder how the locals would get behind it if it was a Manly V Roosters game so to speak. I know quite a few people that tune out of the NRL if there are no queensland teams playing.

I don’t think so. Many of the Sydney teams have good supported bases in Queensland, funnily enough the teams he used as an example have long held ties to SEQ in particular. Further demonstrating he has NFI about rugby league.

 

[Billythekid]

Fitzsimons does have a point about the grand final in Brisbane having non queensland teams being a potential problem. There are merits of having the GF at Suncorp off course but I do wonder how the locals would get behind it if it was a Manly V Roosters game so to speak. I know quite a few people that tune out of the NRL if there are no queensland teams playing.

It’s an absolutely idiotic point. How is that any different from 2 non NSW teams playing in sydney? I’m sure the first NRL GF played in QLD would struggle to sell it just because it had no QLD teams...

The hype would be huge and it would sellout almost immediately regardless of who’s playing.