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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Quicksilver

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I wonder if he saw today's pics of water gushing into the busiest undergound train station in Australia? Opened 56 years prior to the SFS and in use every single day and night, this is what you call crumbling. Not that he would care of course, but if I were using or working in Town Hall station, I'd be very worried. THIS is where the taxpayer billions should be going.

Imagine if there was a game on today though. All those who decided to go outside to watch would get wet.
 
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i would like to see how access points are improved with a major road at one end, another stadium at the back of the other, and other accessory buildings on either side of it.

from what I've seen of the plans, it's just newer shit reorganised and designed by the same merkins that f**ked up this one.

to fit another stadium on this site, the stands should be the steepest in the land. it must go up but it looks like they're going to build another space-ship style facility - with corporate boxes in a prime position for greater revenue.

They’re removing the gold members car park I’m pretty sure. That will improve egress dramatically.

Also the NSW cricket centre is going too.

Corporate boxes aren’t just an important revenue source for the stadium, they’re vital for the clubs who rent the stadium. The clubs already get a shitty deal via the Gold Members.
 

Perth Red

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Is there much backlash against WSS? It seems what I've read few have a problem with the building of that. NSW Govt are copping what they deserve for poor decisions and processes. ANZ really doesnt need much development for big games and Allianz should have been a boutique 35k stadium or just put a roof and upgrade facilities of the existing one then they probably wouldn't be copping this flack
 
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I dunno. NSW Labor are an absolute clusterf**k. They should be ahead by a thousand but keep tripping over their own feet.

Not sure they should be ahead.

I see it the other way, the NSW govt keep doing silly stuff ups, despite overall doing plenty of good things for the state.

NSW has had more infrastructure built in the last 8 years than the previous 20. Admittedly the light rail has been a stuff up, but the much bigger metro line is below budget and on time.
 

beave

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Is there much backlash against WSS? It seems what I've read few have a problem with the building of that. NSW Govt are copping what they deserve for poor decisions and processes. ANZ really doesnt need much development for big games and Allianz should have been a boutique 35k stadium or just put a roof and upgrade facilities of the existing one then they probably wouldn't be copping this flack

ANZ doesn’t need much?? surely you jest?
 
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I wonder if he saw today's pics of water gushing into the busiest undergound train station in Australia? Opened 56 years prior to the SFS and in use every single day and night, this is what you call crumbling. Not that he would care of course, but if I were using or working in Town Hall station, I'd be very worried. THIS is where the taxpayer billions should be going.

Isn’t that what they’re doing by building 3 new CBD stations?

These will take pressure off the existing stations, reducing the impact of emergencies etc.
 
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Not sure they should be ahead.

I see it the other way, the NSW govt keep doing silly stuff ups, despite overall doing plenty of good things for the state.

NSW has had more infrastructure built in the last 8 years than the previous 20. Admittedly the light rail has been a stuff up, but the much bigger metro line is below budget and on time.

WestConnex is the other issue that is biting the Libs. It is hurting them in the inner city, whilst their decision to re-impose the toll on the M4 Motorway for 40 years to pay for its widening (which was originally supposed to be funded out of the privatisation of the electricity industry) is hurting them in western Sydney seats that they currently hold (e.g. Penrith, Mulgoa, Riverstone, Parramatta, Seven Hills). I'm not saying they will lose all those seats, but many of them did used to be strong Labor seats pre-2011.
 

beave

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No, Ive been there for a GF it was fine, not brilliant but not terrible. Its shit for club games but the cheaper solution is dont play club games there!

the top tiers are too far back due to the low rake angle of the lower bowl. The ends are a f**king disgrace. I’ve sat in the Qantas corporate box which were next to the commentary boxes in the year 2k and they were alright but by f**k they would have been the most expensive box in the house. I’v sat in various places over about 30 games there and sorry but it’s a complete piece of shit.
 
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WestConnex is the other issue that is biting the Libs. It is hurting them in the inner city, whilst their decision to re-impose the toll on the M4 Motorway for 40 years to pay for its widening (which was originally supposed to be funded out of the privatisation of the electricity industry) is hurting them in western Sydney seats that they currently hold (e.g. Penrith, Mulgoa, Riverstone, Parramatta, Seven Hills). I'm not saying they will lose all those seats, but many of them did used to be strong Labor seats pre-2011.

Do the Libs hold any of the seats that westconnex impacts? Fairly sure they don’t.

That’s labor & greens territory.

Point taken on M4 though. Although the outer west has swung between labor & liberal for a long time.
 

beave

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I’ve gone cold on ANZ stadium too.

Makes more sense for Souths to move back to the SFS & bulldogs to WSS. This actually benefits rugby league more.

In that case we’ll only be using ANZ 4-5 times a year.

Why should souths move back to the SFS? aren’t most of their fans from outside Redfern these days? I still remember going to watch them play in the mid 90’s at the sfs in front of 4k people, a lot of water has passed under the bridge since then but I don’t think going back there is going to help their cause.
 
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Why should souths move back to the SFS? aren’t most of their fans from outside Redfern these days? I still remember going to watch them play in the mid 90’s at the sfs in front of 4k people, a lot of water has passed under the bridge since then but I don’t think going back there is going to help their cause.

I’ve heard varying reports, but they’re not all in the West. Maybe they could move to WSS?

I just don’t think a big stadium is the best option. Especially if it doesn’t have a club mode, which I think may happen.
 

Perth Red

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the top tiers are too far back due to the low rake angle of the lower bowl. The ends are a f**king disgrace. I’ve sat in the Qantas corporate box which were next to the commentary boxes in the year 2k and they were alright but by f**k they would have been the most expensive box in the house. I’v sat in various places over about 30 games there and sorry but it’s a complete piece of shit.

Like I said its not ideal by a long way but any 80k plus stadium suffers from distance to action issues. Is it worth a total rebuild at this time, probably not imo. When theres 80k in there its a good atmosphere and you can see the pitch ok. I've been there with 10k in it and no amount of angling the seats is going to help the shite experience of that. But a shining new 80k stadium fits the "we've got the best" bragging rights Govt's love so I can see allianz being abandoned and ANZ done as a compromise by labor.
 

siv

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I’ve gone cold on ANZ stadium too.

Makes more sense for Souths to move back to the SFS & bulldogs to WSS. This actually benefits rugby league more.

In that case we’ll only be using ANZ 4-5 times a year.

I think the only way Souths would move back to the SFS if they were offerred the same deal as at ANZ or a equal deal as what Easts get
 
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I think the only way Souths would move back to the SFS if they were offerred the same deal as at ANZ or a equal deal as what Easts get

I’m not sure what deal the roosters get, but my understanding is once the current ANZ deals are finished they won’t be renewed.
 

El Diablo

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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...l/news-story/1c3bd955efa2f669e83d7c47c9859f50

Toads to cane us in bid to steal grand final

Anna Caldwell & Julian Linden, The Daily Telegraph
in an hour


THE prospect of a Brisbane NRL grand final is now real, with the code’s chair Peter Beattie already sounding out the Queensland government about moving the matches if NSW walks away from its deal to dramatically upgrade its sporting stadiums.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal that Mr Beattie has now spoken to Queensland Tourism Minister Kate Jones, indicating he is serious about taking grand finals north.

The NRL will strongly protest plans by new state Labor leader Michael Daley to not pay $1.5 billion to rebuild Allianz stadium and dramatically refurbish ANZ.

It comes as NSW Sports Minister Stuart Ayres vowed to let the wrecking balls and bulldozers in to start demolishing Allianz Stadium the moment approval was granted.

Mr Beattie spoke to Ms Jones on Tuesday, a day after Mr Daley announced his plan to rip $1.5 billion of public money from Sydney stadiums.

“Of course we are serious when we say we will take the game elsewhere,” Mr Beattie said. “Kate Jones asked me if this was a genuine option and I said it was.

“We have to do what’s best for the game and the fans. And we will do that”.

The NRL will also consider Melbourne for grand finals.

Mr Beattie and NRL boss Todd Greenberg will meet with Mr Daley next week.

The Labor leader believes he can keep the grand final in Sydney even if government does not pay for new stadiums.

Allianz is due to be demolished before the election. If Labor wins, the SCG Trust will need to find a $730 million loan to pay for a new stadium.

Describing Labor’s plans to withdraw funding for the project as “an act of desperation”, Mr Ayres said the government would proceed as soon as planning approval was granted.

“There’s no change to the government’s agenda, we’ve been very upfront with people,” Mr Ayres said. “I expect planning approval will come out in early December.”

Mr Daley wants the project halted immediately. He said that if Labor won the election, the $1.5 billion that was to spent on the stadiums would be diverted to hospitals and schools.

But Mr Ayres said it was not good enough.

“Every major city in Australia, Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth, have all rebuilt their sporting infrastructure since the 2000 Olympics … it’s now time for us to reinvest,” Mr Ayres said.

NSW Waratahs CEO Andrew Hore said Allianz just wasn’t up to it any more.

“We’re really disappointed there was no consolation. That kind of statement can have a sincere impact,” Mr Hore said.
 

Yosemite Sam

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I wonder if he saw today's pics of water gushing into the busiest undergound train station in Australia? Opened 56 years prior to the SFS and in use every single day and night, this is what you call crumbling. Not that he would care of course, but if I were using or working in Town Hall station, I'd be very worried. THIS is where the taxpayer billions should be going.

What a stupid comment. You cannot spend a cent on the structure of Town Hall without completely shutting down the city circle. Its depth and location make it difficult to expand the station shell at all. It's an engineering impossibility.

Oh and those billions of dollars are being spent on the new metro, which includes Pitt Street Station, taking a massive load off Town Hall.
 
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