The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Dogs Of War]

Dogs rabbits only play 10 games a year at anz. Thus why the previous calculations are wrong. No team should need to have play 12 games a year at anz.

 

[Perth Red]

Cronulla are financially independent you muppet.

Not quite, they had to borrow $3mill off a pizza shop owner three years ago and $1million off a director two years ago following a $2million loss year and lost another $1.5million this last financial year that they are presumably covering from somewhere?

 

[Perth Red]

So you need 65 NRL regular season games based in sydney in the big stadiums

Dogs - 12
Souths -12
Parramatta - 12
Easts - 12
These 4 teams are almost full time at the stadiums anyway and for 1.6 billion being spent on their home grounds surley they can play the other game or 2

So thats 48 - Leaves 17 games

Dragons - 8 (currently they play 8 in sydney anyway)
Tigers - 8 - Im a Balmain boy but Leicahrdt is past its prime

That leaves 1 game between Manly, Sharks and Penrith which they could alternate so one home game every 3 years

Its not fing rocket science

Souths earn about $500k from the Perth game, I doubt they're planning to give it up any time soon!

 

[boonboon]

Dogs rabbits only play 10 games a year at anz. Thus why the previous calculations are wrong. No team should need to have play 12 games a year at anz.

So what your saying is Dogs , Bunnies, Eels and Roosters shouldn't have to move their remaining 1 or 2 games they don't play at a big stadia despite the fact they are getting 1.6 bn spent on their home grounds.

If I was the NSW governement I'd tell them to feck off

 

[taipan]

Not quite, they had to borrow $3mill off a pizza shop owner three years ago and $1million off a director two years ago following a $2million loss year and lost another $1.5million this last financial year that they are presumably covering from somewhere?

The Pizza shop owner loan was at a far more competitive Interest rate than the banks for starters.He is in no rush.
All outstanding monies will be repaid ,when the cash(profits) starts flowing in from the residential development,where all the early stages have sold out.In addition the club and developers are applying for an extra 200 units over the retail development.

When retail rental income min $1m pa flows in ,the League club will have more monies for infrastructure and club development.

Stadium naming rights sponsor in place,front of jersey sponsor tick,plus numerous others.

Perth Pirates would like to be in that "unhealthy" position,and the beauty of it, Sharks' supporters don't have to perpetually whinge(something you are conversant with) about their past and present problems

 

[CC_Roosters]

So what your saying is Dogs , Bunnies, Eels and Roosters shouldn't have to move their remaining 1 or 2 games they don't play at a big stadia despite the fact they are getting 1.6 bn spent on their home grounds.

If I was the NSW governement I'd tell them to feck off

So from what you are saying nowhere else in the state gets NRL. No bush, no gosford, no wollongong.... may as well move newcastle to allianz while we are at it.

The whole thing stinks and is being played out in the public by various agendas to hoodwink the public and the game. i would rather no money get spent than see wollongong and the bush lose games at a time when the number of games in sydney should be being reduced for alernative venues.

And the whole thing about penrith being excluded on the premise of some fantasy stadium 30 years away also stinks. Maybe more to do with mr ayers and were his seat is me thinks.

 

[Frank Discussion]

Not quite, they had to borrow $3mill off a pizza shop owner three years ago and $1million off a director two years ago following a $2million loss year and lost another $1.5million this last financial year that they are presumably covering from somewhere?

You are shifting the goalposts. You said they were reliant on the NRL for millions in handouts. Wrong. Yes they have some small debt which is being easily serviced. Big deal. There was a time when he Sharks were rooted but that's long gone and you hoping and wishing for them to fall over just looks more and more pathetic the stronger they get. Give it up PR, your dream of the Sharks falling over and Perth coming in is dead. Back another carcass to circle you vulture.

 

[Frank Discussion]

Isn't that the whole point of the exercise? If you can't get crowds at your suburban ground and you can't get crowds at the modern stadium then you'll find your team won't exist in 10 years or it'll be in another state/NZ.

Surely the best attitude for the likes of Manly and Cronulla would be to view their one or two games a season in the CBD as an opportunity to really get out and advertise the club.

The whole point of the exercise is to upgrade ANZ stadium (and the SFS). Why should Cronulla and Manly and their supporters suffer so this happens?

Manly are from Manly and want to play in Manly. Cronulla are from Cronulla and want to play in Cronulla. What's so hard to understand about that for you people?

 

[Perth Red]

You are shifting the goalposts. You said they were reliant on the NRL for millions in handouts. Wrong. Yes they have some small debt which is being easily serviced. Big deal. There was a time when he Sharks were rooted but that's long gone and you hoping and wishing for them to fall over just looks more and more pathetic the stronger they get. Give it up PR, your dream of the Sharks falling over and Perth coming in is dead. Back another carcass to circle you vulture.

Simply stating facts. To somehow say sharks, at this time, are fine staying as they are is simply not true looking at their financial performance in the last three years SINCE they flogged off their assets. Their debts are once again rising and they are running at significant losses each year. Maybe moving to a central stadium isn't the answer for them but it seems staying as is isn't either at the moment. If they're not careful any remaining money from the development is going to go the same way as the first windfall and just service their debts and losses.

But off the sharks I still say an NRL controlled game of the week at a new Allianz and ANZ on a Friday and Sunday is the answer. That would provide 50 games then dogs, parra and Souths playing their remaining games at new parra stadium with roosters split between new Allianz and Gosford would easily cover 65 games and be a good outcome fir the fans.

 

[Dogs Of War]

So what your saying is Dogs , Bunnies, Eels and Roosters shouldn't have to move their remaining 1 or 2 games they don't play at a big stadia despite the fact they are getting 1.6 bn spent on their home grounds.

If I was the NSW governement I'd tell them to feck off

Well it's not like other teams can't make up the numbers and if your going to grow your brand taking games elsewhere is the best way to do it. Souths make lots of cash from there Perth game and the Bulldogs go with giving something back to there members with the belmore games.

Other clubs can step in and contribute to achieving the required number of games at the two big stadiums.

As it is. Roosters are talking about an eight and four game split between the sfs and Gosford which would mean even more games would need to be made up by the teams not currently locked into the sfs/anz to play at least 2/3 games. I'm not discounting the panthers either. I think they should be taking a couple of games to anz as well.

So for analysis sake

Bulldogs 10 games anz
Eels 10 games anz/parra stadium
Souths 10 games anz
Roosters 8 games sfs

That's 38 games.

To get to 64 what is needed are another 26 games

Tigers 8 games anz
Dragons 6 games sfs

This leaves 12 to be made up by manly, Penrith and sharks.

Though the dragons/nrl should be arguing that the gong games they play are not counted against the percentage which might reduce the amount a little.

The Easter show goes over two weekends might should provide another couple opportunities to play with decent crowds some other match ups like manly v sharks and Penrith v Roosters alternating each year to make up the required numbers and get good crowds to those games. Stuffed if I know why we never plays games on that second weekend of the Easter show.

 

[flamin]

The whole point of the exercise is to upgrade ANZ stadium (and the SFS). Why should Cronulla and Manly and their supporters suffer so this happens?

Manly are from Manly and want to play in Manly. Cronulla are from Cronulla and want to play in Cronulla. What's so hard to understand about that for you people?

Erm you already replied to that post.

As I said before I don't want Manly or the Sharks to fail. But being unwilling to move 1 match a year to a stadium in the same city to help out the game while also failing to see the potential opportunity for your own club is ridiculously short-sighted.

 

[Bastard Squad]

Building a new stadium at Moore Park is a huge waste of NSW tax payers money, the SFS can be upgraded for a tenth of the cost of a new stadium. The big problem is bar/food and toilets. You can modify the stadium to increase and improve these areas.

All NSW tax payers should be up in arms about this colossal waste of money in replacing one of the best viewing stadiums in Australia !!!

 

[big hit!]

Building a new stadium at Moore Park is a huge waste of NSW tax payers money, the SFS can be upgraded for a tenth of the cost of a new stadium. The big problem is bar/food and toilets. You can modify the stadium to increase and improve these areas.

All NSW tax payers should be up in arms about this colossal waste of money in replacing one of the best viewing stadiums in Australia !!!

somebody by this bastard a beer! if you have the patience to line up for one!!

as he says, the current stadium at Moore Park doesn't need to be demolished and rebuilt. 35-40k is fine for this area. TBH, the area can barely handle this amount anyway. for any large scale venue, there needs to be one of two things - i) a massive car park with a 4 lane motorway on the door step to filter traffic onto; or ii) a large capacity rail station - two things that Moore Park doesn't have.

just renovate the joint, improve the rake at the ends, and purchase several of those four pourer contraptions so beers can be ready to takeaway as soon as you get to the front with wait times reduced. At present you got one dude just pouring them singularly. no doubt it's probably an rsa measure so us merkins don't get through a heap of them during games, but at the same time, you see long lines on courses that are just as much a hazard.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Why isn't this stupid new stadium on kippax lame rumour dying yet

Surely it has to be $500m for a reconfigure of anz

150m on allianz refurb

And Parra stadium new

 

[BlueandGold]

Why isn't this stupid new stadium on kippax lame rumour dying yet

Surely it has to be $500m for a reconfigure of anz

150m on allianz refurb

And Parra stadium new

There is 1billion left over for ANZ and Alliance.

Would like the split to be

800m to ANZ
200m to Alliance for refurbish

300million has been set aside for Parra.
300m for new indoor arena's

 

[Brutus]

We need cash to keep Henson Park away from the f**king Swans.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/nice-gig-mi...-bowl-and-premier-league-20160324-gnqn7u.html

Looks like sfs wants all the cash

 

[unforgiven]

There is 1billion left over for ANZ and Alliance.

Would like the split to be

800m to ANZ
200m to Alliance for refurbish

300million has been set aside for Parra.
300m for new indoor arena's

Let the lease holders of ANZ contribute to the redevelopments there. If the new Moore park stadium starts taking the major games away from ANZ they will soon stump up to redevelop and then we get 2 new stadiums and a redevrloped ANZ for no extra outlay.

 

[cleary89]

unless anz is knocked down its still going to be shit

 

[Perth Red]

Yep, even a pretty 80k stadium with 18k fans in it looks and feels totally shite. No club game other than ones likely to draw 30k plus should be played their full stop.