The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Timmah]

I'm fine with stadiums and arenas selling naming rights and names changing over time. What I don't understand is when they change the name of the type of facility it is - for example, NIB Stadium changing to HBF Park or Docklands going from a stadium to a dome and then back to a stadium.

I'd have thought that would be straight forward - Telstra already sponsored the now ANZ Stadium and as such they didn't want to have two Telstra Stadiums. Similarly two other venues in Perth already have HBF sponsorship (see my post earlier), a swimming venue (HBF Stadium in Claremont) and a sports precinct including swimming, basketball and an AFL ground (HBF Arena in Joondalup). As a result they had to choose a different trailing name.

As an aside, the sponsorless name for the rectangular venue in Perth is actually "Perth Oval" as it used to be just that - an oval.

 

[azza29]

I'm just disappointed AAMI Park never got a year or two before sponsorship as "Melbourne Rectangular Stadium"

During the Commonwealth Games the then Vodafone Arena had to be referred to as “Multi Purpose Venue” due to Telstra’s sponsorship of the Games. I think that takes the prize for blandest stadium name ever.

 

[sempmrh]

There's probably more examples of it happening in America than here with stadiums becoming fields becoming parks become coliseums, etc.

 

[sempmrh]

During the Commonwealth Games the then Vodafone Arena had to be referred to as “Multi Purpose Venue” due to Telstra’s sponsorship of the Games. I think that takes the prize for blandest stadium name ever.

It's going to take a long time for the Hisense Arena name to wear off for me, despite being there several times since the changeover to Melbourne Arena. Usually I'm good with stuff like that but Hisense just seems right.

 

[Timmah]

During the Commonwealth Games the then Vodafone Arena had to be referred to as “Multi Purpose Venue” due to Telstra’s sponsorship of the Games. I think that takes the prize for blandest stadium name ever.

Thankfully that is now simply Melbourne Arena.

 

[unforgiven]

I'd have thought that would be straight forward - Telstra already sponsored the now ANZ Stadium and as such they didn't want to have two Telstra Stadiums. Similarly two other venues in Perth already have HBF sponsorship (see my post earlier), a swimming venue (HBF Stadium in Claremont) and a sports precinct including swimming, basketball and an AFL ground (HBF Arena in Joondalup). As a result they had to choose a different trailing name.

As an aside, the sponsorless name for the rectangular venue in Perth is actually "Perth Oval" as it used to be just that - an oval.

The only time I ever went there, I think it was still called Perth Oval, thats what the sign out the front said anyway.

No just checked it was known as Members Equity Stadium, but it still had the old Perth Oval entrance.

 

[Quidgybo]

I don't know where you've got that idea - suggesting it should've been 40k (10k greater than current capacity) is hard turning it into a 'one-third full, oversized ground'. Nobody's suggesting we need a 60-80k rectangular ground in Melbourne.

In the nine seasons since AAMI Park opened there have been 101 regular season NRL games at an average of 14,597 (36.5% of 40,000 - ballpark of “one-third”) . Counting all 114 club games, including finals, there have been just five games in those eight years that have drawn > 27,000. Only one club game has drawn > 29,000. The game did not need a 40,000 seat venue in Melbourne, does not need a 40,000 seat venue in Melbourne and the vast majority of events the game holds in Melbourne would be a poorer fan experience if played in a larger venue with an extra 10,000 seats sitting empty. I really don’t know what else to tell you,

Leigh.

 

[Perth Red]

I'd have thought that would be straight forward - Telstra already sponsored the now ANZ Stadium and as such they didn't want to have two Telstra Stadiums. Similarly two other venues in Perth already have HBF sponsorship (see my post earlier), a swimming venue (HBF Stadium in Claremont) and a sports precinct including swimming, basketball and an AFL ground (HBF Arena in Joondalup). As a result they had to choose a different trailing name.

As an aside, the sponsorless name for the rectangular venue in Perth is actually "Perth Oval" as it used to be just that - an oval.

perth oval history.
http://www.amnet.net.au/~daveiza/royals/po.html


Park is very unflattering for a stadium!

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Depends - ABC Grandstand (who cannot mention sponsor names as part of their charter) use the old 'Lang Park', but I don't believe that's the official name anymore (similarly, they use Olympic Stadium when the official name is Stadium Australia for ANZ).

For all major tournaments in recent years where Suncorp has been de-sponsored due to governing body regulations (i.e. FIFA and RLWC), it's been called Brisbane Stadium.

I thought Stadium Australia predated ANZ.

 

[Captain Apollo]

I thought Stadium Australia predated ANZ.

Nope. The QEII Jubliee Sports Centre in Brisbane was known, during the Broncos tenure of it (which was 1993 to 2003), as ANZ Stadium.

 

[Timmah]

In the nine seasons since AAMI Park opened there have been 101 regular season NRL games at an average of 14,597 (36.5% of 40,000 - ballpark of “one-third”) . Counting all 114 club games, including finals, there have been just five games in those eight years that have drawn > 27,000. Only one club game has drawn > 29,000. The game did not need a 40,000 seat venue in Melbourne, does not need a 40,000 seat venue in Melbourne and the vast majority of events the game holds in Melbourne would be a poorer fan experience if played in a larger venue with an extra 10,000 seats sitting empty. I really don’t know what else to tell you,

Leigh.

Probably because you're looking at the whole nine seasons rather than the last few, where the Storm's membership base and home crowd averages have spiked significantly.

 

[Timmah]

Nope. The QEII Jubliee Sports Centre in Brisbane was known, during the Broncos tenure of it (which was 1993 to 2003), as ANZ Stadium.

I don't think he's referring to the old ANZ, but the chronology of the current one.

I thought Stadium Australia predated ANZ.

Stadium Australia is the original unsponsored name for ANZ, and was known as that until Telstra picked up the rights in 2002. My point was about ABC who still call it the Olympic Stadium instead

 

[siv]

Depends - ABC Grandstand (who cannot mention sponsor names as part of their charter) use the old 'Lang Park', but I don't believe that's the official name anymore (similarly, they use Olympic Stadium when the official name is Stadium Australia for ANZ).

For all major tournaments in recent years where Suncorp has been de-sponsored due to governing body regulations (i.e. FIFA and RLWC), it's been called Brisbane Stadium.

Wonder if it has a legal name

Prefer to use the wording Lang Park when discussing it in its old comfiguration

 

[Timmah]

Wonder if it has a legal name

Prefer to use the wording Lang Park when discussing it in its old comfiguration

In the Major Facilities (Sports) Act of 2001, it's currently known as Brisbane Stadium (Lang Park) following a 2016 amendment.

 

[siv]

Anyway NRL HQ continues to be evacuated in the lead up to the SFS rebuild

 

[Perth Red]

Anyway NRL HQ continues to be evacuated in the lead up to the SFS rebuild

Is that why there is no sign of Todd in these troubled times?

 

[Saint Doc]

It’s funny how some names stick and others don’t.

A lot of people, especially younger people who weren’t that familiar with jubilee oval prior to us leaving there, still call it “OKI jubilee” despite that sponsorship ending 10 years ago. WIN Jubilee and UOW Jubilee never took off.

The Sharks home ground is Shark Park or Toyota Stadium to many, despite many other names like Remondis and Southern Cross Group.

 

[Suitman]

Parra Leagues Hotel development has been submitted.
The little house stays!!

Parramatta Leagues Club Hotel

DA on exhibition..

Construction of a 17 storey hotel comprising 209 hotel rooms, one basement level for services,
ancillary uses including a pool, gym, cafe, bars and function room on lower 4 levels.
Pool/Fitness and Wellness Centre.

Vehicular access from Connell Street.

Architecture, Urban Design, Landscape HASSELL

No additional parking is proposed, with parking to be accommodated in the adjoining large carpark, which provides parking for 773 cars.

The 4-star equivalent hotel is intended to be run and managed by the Parramatta Leagues Club (PLC).

However, this will obviously be reviewed over time, and if not the PLC, the entity will report to PLC.

http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.go...ob&job_id=8800

 

[titoelcolombiano]

So what is Suncorp called without sponsorship ?

Preger a naming convention that keeps its original name

Eg Sponsor "Stadium name"

It is Lang Park and it is a disgrace that it was ever changed. It is an iconic ground just like the Gabba and should never been called Suncorp Stadium let alone the abomination that is Brisbane Stadium (for events that don't allow sponsorship).

 

[Vee]

I think

Is that why there is no sign of Todd in these troubled times?

I think he's on leave, with Beattie and Weeks at the same time. I read somewhere that's why they've been slow to comment on the flood of different incidents.