thorson1987
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Will always be Caltex Field to me.
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Wrong!
I respectfully suggest you re-read my preceding two posts and what I was responding to. I did not suggest the ground has a capacity of 40k but argued against an opinion that “AAMI park however should have been built to hold 40k as it is in a major city” rather than the 30k that you correctly point out was ultimately built. I said that if it were built to 40k it would only be one-third full for most games Rugby League plays there. When another member queried where I got the idea that an increased capacity would only be one third full, I demonstrated that the average crowd for regular season games over the last nine years was indeed around one-third of 40k.
My figures are drawn from the following...
Three successive Grand Final appearances and one Premiership in the “last few” seasons tend to have that effect (an average of 15,678 for 33 regular season games in last three seasons - 39.2% of a hypothetical 40k capacity). But it doesn’t change the fundamental point that if there were 10,000 extra seats at AAMI, they would be 10,000 extra empty seats for nearly every game we play there. Do you or anyone else here truly dispute that 10,000 extra seats that we don’t use and won’t likely need for many years to come can only serve to detract from the atmosphere at the majority of games we play there and thereby actually hamper our efforts to build crowds?
Doesn't seem to hamper 25-40k crowds at Suncorp, so no. Provided it's well designed I don't see an issue.
You’re comparing greater than 50% full for a monopoly team in a Rugby League stronghold with less than 40% full in a non Rugby League frontier market where we really have to work just to keep patrons coming back, let alone build on that figure. An extra 10,000 empty seats simply won’t help that effort. I’m all for ambition to grow but not ambition founded on the deliberate ignorance and self delusion of our current position and unrealistic expectations for short and medium term growth.
If the Storm start selling out the existing capacity for regular season games then absolutely, a capacity expansion is justified. But it shouldn’t be on some arbitrary timescale of a decade or two. Nor should it have been built to 40k from day one, as in the original proposition I responded to. It should happen when it is actually needed. We didn’t need the extra capacity when the stadium opened in 2010, still don’t need it nine seasons latter and won’t need it for the foreseeable future. It’d be a waste that can only harm the majority of events we hold there as fan attracting spectacles.
Looks good and even better that Icon aren’t involvedParra Leagues Hotel development has been submitted.
The little house stays!!
Parramatta Leagues Club Hotel
DA on exhibition..
Construction of a 17 storey hotel comprising 209 hotel rooms, one basement level for services,
ancillary uses including a pool, gym, cafe, bars and function room on lower 4 levels.
Pool/Fitness and Wellness Centre.
Vehicular access from Connell Street.
Architecture, Urban Design, Landscape HASSELL
No additional parking is proposed, with parking to be accommodated in the adjoining large carpark, which provides parking for 773 cars.
The 4-star equivalent hotel is intended to be run and managed by the Parramatta Leagues Club (PLC).
However, this will obviously be reviewed over time, and if not the PLC, the entity will report to PLC.
http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.go...ob&job_id=8800
