The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Perth Red]

The football club invests 5m in junior development. This is over and above the grants to junior clubs from the leagues club.

How and where as it Isnt showing up on the panthers annual reports and Im petty sure if they were they would be mentioning it!

 

[forby]

Because those other three grounds have eight tenants (Roosters, Bulldogs, Rabbits, Tigers, Eels, Sydney FC, Wanderers, Waratahs) based within spitting distance all committed to use the respective venues and Penrith has only one committed tenant with no one else based within a ballistic golly. Oh, you were asking why, not why not? Sorry, can’t answer that mystery.

Leigh.

Roosters and Sydney FC don’t play at BankWest, ANZ or Spotless. These three stadia are all within a stones throw of each other.

 

[BlueandGold]

Roosters and Sydney FC don’t play at BankWest, ANZ or Spotless. These three stadia are all within a stones throw of each other.

How long you been following sport in NSW?

They both play at Alliance normally when the stadium is not in rubble.

 

[Quidgybo]

Roosters and Sydney FC don’t play at BankWest, ANZ or Spotless. These three stadia are all within a stones throw of each other.

Spotless isn’t part of the Billion $ funding currently allocated for stadium upgrades.

Leigh.

 

[franklin2323]

How and where as it Isnt showing up on the panthers annual reports and Im petty sure if they were they would be mentioning it!

How does the junior league run without money? 9000 juniors

U16's, U18's in country League.
U16's, U18's, U20's and womens comp

The Football club funds and the Leagues picks up the shortfall

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

The federal seat of Lindsay, centred on Penrith-St Marys, is held with a margin of 1%. It is one of the closest in Australia and a bellweather seat since it was created, except for 2016. The party that wins Lindsay, wins Government. So if Panthers Stadium can't get some money for an upgrade under those circumstances, I don't like the chances of it happening in my lifetime.

Yeh, nah.

Bell weather seats are good indicators of national mood, but if you pump $300mil into the seat you don change the national mood.

Not saying its not an important seat, but its not important enough to single-handedly win an election.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

That's just classic insular RL fan rubbish.

I basically don't understand the existence of AFL but if I ran a club and a team came to me for sponsorship, and that sponsorship benefited the business, guess what? That's the only concern.

Anyway like you said, there would likely be little need or desire for Panthers to sponsor any AFL clubs or RU clubs in anything like the capacity they do for Penrith Cricket Club. But as a local business they can and should sponsor whoever they see fit.

I agree that a business is free to sponsor who they like and they should do that if it benefits them. But a business will rarely sponsor activities that benefit their opposition. As I said, I doubt very much that any AFL social clubs are handing out money to RL clubs in Victoria.

 

[Quicksilver]

Yeh, nah.

Bell weather seats are good indicators of national mood, but if you pump $300mil into the seat you don change the national mood.

Not saying its not an important seat, but its not important enough to single-handedly win an election.

Probably cheaper than the new SFS per seat.

 

[TheFrog]

Yeh, nah.

Bell weather seats are good indicators of national mood, but if you pump $300mil into the seat you don change the national mood.

You don't need to spend that much on it. All it really needs is a bit more capacity, which could be achieved by stands at the ends. You might have to take out a little bit of Howell Oval and the street on the north side which isn't really essential.

 

[juro]

Not meaning to be picky but the word is bellwether, not bellweather.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/bellwether

 

[Perth Red]

How does the junior league run without money? 9000 juniors

U16's, U18's in country League.
U16's, U18's, U20's and womens comp

The Football club funds and the Leagues picks up the shortfall

Subscriptions. NSWRL grants, the $300k plus grants showing on the books? You know same as all the other jnr set ups around the country. Any evidence to back up your claim the NRL Panthers are spending $5mill on jnrs?

 

[herbert henry1908]

Yeh, nah.

Bell weather seats are good indicators of national mood, but if you pump $300mil into the seat you don change the national mood.

Not saying its not an important seat, but its not important enough to single-handedly win an election.

Well there’s next to no chance of a $300m development for a single team, what’s relevant isn’t so much that the area is a bellwether, more that it’s a swing seat.

Panthers could possibly get a staged development similar to Newcastle, but there’s no way we’d get a whole stadium anytime soon.

 

[herbert henry1908]

You don't need to spend that much on it. All it really needs is a bit more capacity, which could be achieved by stands at the ends. You might have to take out a little bit of Howell Oval and the street on the north side which isn't really essential.

Disagree on capacity, that’s not the issue. Ammenities, viewing angles, toilets etc is the main issue.

We rarely get anywhere near capacity as is, if you want to grow crowds you need better facilities not bigger.

Penrith would be stoked if they would one day get a 20k version of Bankwest, that would do more for crowd growth than a 25k stadium.

Although the likely router is similar to Newcastle. Two good stands running down each side, the ends can wait or in the meantime build a simple safe standing area at the south. Needs some elevation.

 

[Perth Red]

Disagree on capacity, that’s not the issue. Ammenities, viewing angles, toilets etc is the main issue.

We rarely get anywhere near capacity as is, if you want to grow crowds you need better facilities not bigger.

Penrith would be stoked if they would one day get a 20k version of Bankwest, that would do more for crowd growth than a 25k stadium.

Although the likely router is similar to Newcastle. Two good stands running down each side, the ends can wait or in the meantime build a simple safe standing area at the south. Needs some elevation.

It is up to a limit.If you can get many more to the 2-3 big games a year it helps offset the games that draw low and boosts the avg. You might only test a 25k capacity twice a year but that helps lift the 10k games considerably.

 

[herbert henry1908]

It is up to a limit.If you can get many more to the 2-3 big games a year it helps offset the games that draw low and boosts the avg. You might only test a 25k capacity twice a year but that helps lift the 10k games considerably.

If you can get a high quality 25k seat stadium built, that’s great. It’s not too big as to distract from the atmosphere. However a 20k seat venue is cheaper and more realistic. But the main point is Penrith doesn’t need more seats first, it needs to improve upon what’s there. The current eastern stand has a low rake, knocking that down should be the first priority.

 

[Perth Red]

If you can get a high quality 25k seat stadium built, that’s great. It’s not too big as to distract from the atmosphere. However a 20k seat venue is cheaper and more realistic. But the main point is Penrith doesn’t need more seats first, it needs to improve upon what’s there. The current eastern stand has a low rake, knocking that down should be the first priority.

How much has Newcastles redevelopment cost? Something on a slightly smaller scale like that staged for Panthers would do the trick. Is there space around the Panthers stadium to incorporate other options into reconstruction to make a viable development?

 

[herbert henry1908]

How much has Newcastles redevelopment cost? Something on a slightly smaller scale like that staged for Panthers would do the trick. Is there space around the Panthers stadium to incorporate other options into reconstruction to make a viable development?

Newcastle was quite cheap actually. Not sure how, but I think the stands only cost $40 million each or so.

There’s plenty of room to the east. The western stand backs on to a road but it’s a very deep stand due to the low rake.

 

[unforgiven]

There’s plenty of room to the east. The western stand backs on to a road but it’s a very deep stand due to the low rake.

Opposite way around!

 

[T-Boon]

How much has Newcastles redevelopment cost? Something on a slightly smaller scale like that staged for Panthers would do the trick. Is there space around the Panthers stadium to incorporate other options into reconstruction to make a viable development?

Penrith is too close to Parramatta for the government to chip in for more spending so unless they can pay for it themselves it should not happen.
Just move their games to Bank West. Easy.

 

[TheFrog]

Just move their games to Bank West. Easy.

Up your bum, chum.