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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Showtime

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In the last few weeks we’ve seen a trainer on the field in the games biggest event and actually have an influence on the game and now we commit the same game to a stadium unsuitable to the sport.

Could you imagine LeBron James in game 7 going up for a dunk and one of the guys who wipe the sweat off the floor getting in the way or NFL or premier league fans accept the fact that they have to watch their sport from a ridiculous distance.

God love rugby league.
 

unforgiven

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Could you imagine LeBron James in game 7 going up for a dunk and one of the guys who wipe the sweat off the floor getting in the way or NFL or premier league fans accept the fact that they have to watch their sport from a ridiculous distance.

It actually happens fairly regularly!

 

seanoff

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doesn’t take into account revenue from food and drink, increased merch sales, marquee games were ticket prices are significantly more, attraction to naming rights sponsors, corporate facility increased sales, attraction of other events etc. etc

And you’re missing the increases in maintenance, cleaning, electricity, possible loan repayments.
Other events? Too big for community events. Too small to take concerts. Mega acts want huge capacity (anz, Optus, AO, MCG, Marvel, suncorp/gabba). Other larger artists have Perth Arena, Rod Laver, qbank, bec, aec, 20000 -30000 is no mans land.

penrith, brookvale, kogarah, win, have no natural 2nd tennant. No concerts, too big for community stuff. So the extra costs will likely eat any extra revenue.

it’s also why the sfs is such a waste. 30000 seats that are gong to be used once a year if that. Vast cost without the returns.

Most stadiums do not pay for themselves. Minimising the losses is more the aim. And hoping the economic benefit is at least positive For the surrounding area.
 

horrie hastings

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What are the chances of ANZ going over schedule and not being finished by 2022? Is there more chance of a 2022 GF being moved if this is the case?

Not sure why it would matter, ANZ isn’t suppose to host a Grand Final till 2023, The SFS or Allianz is suppose to host the 2022 Grand Final, that’s the one that would be the problem for 2022 if not finished on schedule.
 

Brutus

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It's a shame Brisbane didn't get to host one GF at this opportune time.

It would would have forever been known as the 'Brisbane Grand Final' - a special moment in the history books.

You've had a shocker NRL.
 

taipan

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anz is perfectly fine on gf day. Certainly not worth the nrl losing a potential $3mill a year in ticket sales
WSS should be able to cope with two fulltime Tenants and one part time one.

Iv'e been there on G/F day.Of course it's fine when it's packed, but thats' for 1 perhaps 2 days a year.Regardless, there are areas in that stadium because of he configuration regardless of packed or not packed are sh*thouse for watching the actuals game.When you spend half the time looking at the screen for the action,therein lies a problem.
Reducing the capacity and bringing many areas in and having a rectangular field is going to make the attendance far more intimate.
You cite a figure of $3m per year, how do you know what the figure will be? Reduced capacity in a rectangular stadium with cover ,is going to encourage more people to attend club games as well as SOO and G/F.The law of supply and demand comes into vogue.
In fact the NRL may not have to provide as many freebies for majors, the NRL may in fact be able to lift prices in some areas ,they may attract more families as a result.
And if club games have a bigger uplift in attendances ,the grants could possibly be reduced from teh current Beattie giveaways.

So who are the long term full-time WSS NRL tenants ? Eels naturally.
Bulldogs and Tigers have fans closer to the East and in the case of the WT at Campbelltown. Souths are committed to ANZ and worst case ,back to the new SFS.Can't see Penrith moving to WSS.

Also WTF give the AFL an even break.They get Govt money to expand Spotless Stadium and the SCG and you want to leave ANZ as is,.so they in fact in Sydney will have 3 AFL suitable all seater stadiums and the rectangular codes 2.Imagine a similar situation in Melbourne LOL in reverse.
Sometimes I think you unknowingly ,promote AFL over rugby league.
 

Canard

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In the last few weeks we’ve seen a trainer on the field in the games biggest event and actually have an influence on the game and now we commit the same game to a stadium unsuitable to the sport.

Could you imagine LeBron James in game 7 going up for a dunk and one of the guys who wipe the sweat off the floor getting in the way or NFL or premier league fans accept the fact that they have to watch their sport from a ridiculous distance.

God love rugby league.

He'd have some Communist party official sort it for him.
 

Burns

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https://www.canberratimes.com.au/st...rch-for-new-canberra-sports-stadium/?cs=14264
"The long-awaited new Canberra sports stadium could be built at Exhibition Park - rather than in the city - under the ACT government's new $14 billion infrastructure strategy.

Chief Minister Andrew Barr has also revealed the government has been approached by superannuation funds interested in potentially investing in a stadium project.
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According to the new infrastructure plan, the Canberra Stadium rebuild and Civic pool options are still on the table, but they are now being examined alongside a sporting venue at the home of Summernats and the Royal Canberra Show.

The plan estimates the cost of a new stadium at between $250 million and $500 million regardless of location.

In an interview with The Canberra Times, Mr Barr said the Exhibition Park option had only emerged during planning for the new infrastructure strategy.

Mr Barr said the Flemington Road precinct - which includes 77 hectares of outdoor space - had a range of features which made it an attractive location for a new stadium.

"You have no shortage of [government-owned] land, you have a public transport connection with light rail running past it now, and it's geographic location is not too bad in terms of access points on major highways," Mr Barr said.
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But there were a number of logistical challenges which the ACT government would have to overcome.

The existing site is too small, meaning the government would need to secure Commonwealth support for a realignment of Parkes Way to free up more space.

The "physical constraints" of the Civic pool site also has implications for the type of playing surface used in the stadium.

Unlike at EPIC or in Bruce, a stadium on the Civic Pool site would have to run on an east-west orientation, which is not ideal for growing and maintaining natural grass.

Mr Barr said if natural grass was used, it would "cook" inside an indoor stadium during summer.

An artificial surface could be used as an alternative, but Mr Barr said it was unlikely that the NRL or Super Rugby would allow matches to be played on it.

"And you would not build something that they would not play on, so that's one of the other challenges that we need to contemplate," he said.
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But there were a number of logistical challenges which the ACT government would have to overcome.

The existing site is too small, meaning the government would need to secure Commonwealth support for a realignment of Parkes Way to free up more space.

The "physical constraints" of the Civic pool site also has implications for the type of playing surface used in the stadium.

Unlike at EPIC or in Bruce, a stadium on the Civic Pool site would have to run on an east-west orientation, which is not ideal for growing and maintaining natural grass.

Mr Barr said if natural grass was used, it would "cook" inside an indoor stadium during summer.

An artificial surface could be used as an alternative, but Mr Barr said it was unlikely that the NRL or Super Rugby would allow matches to be played on it.

"And you would not build something that they would not play on, so that's one of the other challenges that we need to contemplate," he said.
 

siv

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anz is perfectly fine on gf day. Certainly not worth the nrl losing a potential $3mill a year in ticket sales
WSS should be able to cope with two fulltime Tenants and one part time one.

That's easily addressed

Increase the ticket prices by 15%
 

greenBV4

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Not sure why it would matter, ANZ isn’t suppose to host a Grand Final till 2023, The SFS or Allianz is suppose to host the 2022 Grand Final, that’s the one that would be the problem for 2022 if not finished on schedule.

Hows it going? behind schedule yet?

Also hope everyone is ready for extremely overpriced ticket prices for the next 2 GFs so the NRL can try recoup some money
 
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Hows it going? behind schedule yet?

Also hope everyone is ready for extremely overpriced ticket prices for the next 2 GFs so the NRL can try recoup some money

There shouldn't be. The NSW Government are paying between $10-$15 million compensation (depending on which media source you consult) for lost earnings due to reduce ticket availability.
 

adamkungl

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The government almost certainly forced the NRLs hand here.
If the NRL sent it up to QLD for 2 years, the NSW Gov would have tried to backpedal on ANZ and the SFS.

Fact is, getting the 2 stadiums over the line for the next 30-40 years of premium experiences is worth a lot more than 2 individual GFs.
 
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