The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[MugaB]

umm

the dragons aren't manchester united or the dallas cowboys

Still happened? they knocked back the offer

 

[MugaB]

Woodward Place set to transform Liverpool City Centre over the next 30 years

Liverpool City Council today released the Woodward Place Master Plan for public exhibition detailing Council’s bold vision to transform the 28-hectare Woodward Park into Woodward Place, a precinct which will inject new life and connectivity into the heart of the City.

www.liverpool.nsw.gov.au

Does this kill off this location for a Liverpool stadium? Isn't this where the Bulldogs own the land?

Not sure, but if the dog own that land, wherever it is, then they can build whatever they like on it... plus if the Liverpool stadium doesn't go ahead, fixing up belmore and campbelltown surely would be more suitable for the NRL, in terms of clubs/fans push back, plus finally pushes tigers to play in the macarthur area for 9 games rather than the nomadic presence they have now... the tigers director has already pushed for the idea to play moreso in campbelltown in future, i think a 9/3 split between Campbelltown and Leichardt is better than sharing with bankwest

 

[Perth Red]

pi

you mean european soccer clubs & NFL clubs owned by arab & russian billionaires. We don't have that here .. the interest bill alone would start at around 15 million per year ( interest & principal 30m) , leaving in lean years nothing for grass roots development etc

its a dog of an idea

A lot of european clubs built their own grounds a long time before the arabs and oligarchs got involved. If they could finance them with just themselves playing there then don’t see why nrl couldnt finance one with income from three tenants, naming rights, other events etc etc.

you’ve been telling me enough we’ve got outstanding management delivering a $50mill surplus, shouldn’t be a problem with such leaders managing the $’s lol.

 

[baselinepanther]

A lot of european clubs built their own grounds a long time before the arabs and oligarchs got involved. If they could finance them with just themselves playing there then don’t see why nrl couldnt finance one with income from three tenants, naming rights, other events etc etc.

you’ve been telling me enough we’ve got outstanding management delivering a $50mill surplus, shouldn’t be a problem with such leaders managing the $’s lol.

we do have exellent management , delivering a 50 million profit in one year during a global pandemic while your beloved AFL has dropped about 60 million over the last 2 years.
Pretty sure we can work out from that who managed their sport well over covid & who didn't do so well eh einstein ?

 

[baselinepanther]

Still happened? they knocked back the offer

because the offer was rubbish.

 

[Perth Red]

we do have exellent management , delivering a 50 million profit in one year during a global pandemic while your beloved AFL has dropped about 60 million over the last 2 years.
Pretty sure we can work out from that who managed their sport well over covid & who didn't do so well eh einstein ?

So no worries covering cost of a stadium then.

 

[MugaB]

because the offer was rubbish.

Im pretty sure they didn't want to be owned by an overseas tycoon of sorts, the money would have set them up for eons

 

[TheRam]

Agreed! The AFL push for new facilities all the time and don't seem to care about not having more than one tenant or use cases. They just care than their AFL team has a ground to play at.

Exactly. In fact I think it is even a preferred option to not have anyone else use the facility and it is known as only a RL stadium.

Besides the prestige it also means that the surface should be in pristine condition for all RL fixtures. Win, win.

 

[RedVee]

Woodward Place set to transform Liverpool City Centre over the next 30 years

Liverpool City Council today released the Woodward Place Master Plan for public exhibition detailing Council’s bold vision to transform the 28-hectare Woodward Park into Woodward Place, a precinct which will inject new life and connectivity into the heart of the City.

www.liverpool.nsw.gov.au

Does this kill off this location for a Liverpool stadium? Isn't this where the Bulldogs own the land?

There or next door to there is the Bulldogs land from my memory.

The dedicated busway runs by pretty close to there, the train station is a good walk away. Not too far but maybe a bit far for those with less mobility - but pretty flat walk.

 

[ground zero]

There or next door to there is the Bulldogs land from my memory.

The dedicated busway runs by pretty close to there, the train station is a good walk away. Not too far but maybe a bit far for those with less mobility - but pretty flat walk.

lets talk about a Liverpool stadium in 30 years time then. maybe Liverpool might have a team by then.

 

[Perth Red]

A RL stadium, be it Liverpool or elsewhere would be home to two NRL tenants as well as being the "home" of RL in Sydney so could host women's origin, all stars, test matches, world club challenges etc on regular basis. In fact anything the NRL wants to make an event and make a quid out of that is best suited to a 30k stadium.

 

[T-Boon]

A RL stadium, be it Liverpool or elsewhere would be home to two NRL tenants as well as being the "home" of RL in Sydney so could host women's origin, all stars, test matches, world club challenges etc on regular basis. In fact anything the NRL wants to make an event and make a quid out of that is best suited to a 30k stadium.

Parra Stadium is already that stadium and it is available for all the western sydney teams.

 

[RedVee]

Parra Stadium is already that stadium and it is available for all the western sydney teams.

But not owned by the NRL as the proposal for Liverpool is.

 

[baselinepanther]

Parra Stadium is already that stadium and it is available for all the western sydney teams.

and we didn't pay a penny for it & have to service a debt for the next 20 years

 

[TheEroticGamer]

Parramatta is centre-east sydney.

 

[baselinepanther]

So no worries covering cost of a stadium then.

no worries covering the cost , but its a stupid idea & not essential like the afl having to buy docklands because its clubs were going broke playing out of it...

if the govt won't build liverpool then our 2 clubs will be fine playing at the present grounds they play @, no need to panic.
If the code is going to venture into stadium ownership then its needs to be a far grander venture then a pissy little 25K seat venue.

 

[ash the bash]

I don't know why the Wests Tigers and MCBulls soccer have not come out with a joint statement for Campbelltown Stadium (CS). Bit like Commbank stadium it will have winter and summer anchor tenants.

It's a bit far SW for the Bulldogs to move. Having never been there on the surface it looks a decent venue. Right next door to rail it has ample parking around along with a leagues club. Even if Wests Campbelltown leagues don't have any ownership in the WT's anymore, they still sponsor the Tigers along with junior footy out that way so they have skin in the game.

WT's base 9 games at CS and 3 at LO will sort out the future for Tigers. Having the HQ in the inner west closer to city and beaches while having some sort of centre located in Campbelltown for the juniors will see WT's sorted.

I was originally in favour of a stadium in Liverpool but the distance from train station and lack of parking nearby has swayed me. Not sure what that means for the Bulldogs but they could be based in Stadium Oz/Commbank stadium as they are currently now.

 

[Colk]

no worries covering the cost , but its a stupid idea & not essential like the afl having to buy docklands because its clubs were going broke playing out of it...

if the govt won't build liverpool then our 2 clubs will be fine playing at the present grounds they play @, no need to panic.
If the code is going to venture into stadium ownership then its needs to be a far grander venture then a pissy little 25K seat venue.

I agree with your last part about the size. That area from Liverpool to MacArthur will be huge and if you could build it on land near the airport the increase in land value will pay for the asset itself. But it would be much better if it was a decent stadium

 

[Colk]

I don't know why the Wests Tigers and MCBulls soccer have not come out with a joint statement for Campbelltown Stadium (CS). Bit like Commbank stadium it will have winter and summer anchor tenants.

It's a bit far SW for the Bulldogs to move. Having never been there on the surface it looks a decent venue. Right next door to rail it has ample parking around along with a leagues club. Even if Wests Campbelltown leagues don't have any ownership in the WT's anymore, they still sponsor the Tigers along with junior footy out that way so they have skin in the game.

WT's base 9 games at CS and 3 at LO will sort out the future for Tigers. Having the HQ in the inner west closer to city and beaches while having some sort of centre located in Campbelltown for the juniors will see WT's sorted.

I was originally in favour of a stadium in Liverpool but the distance from train station and lack of parking nearby has swayed me. Not sure what that means for the Bulldogs but they could be based in Stadium Oz/Commbank stadium as they are currently now.

Depends on where they build it in Liverpool. If it’s on the line near the new airport then it would be perfect.

If they squib this then all should play a majority of their games at Bankwest (Tigers could play some of their games at Campbelltown I guess). Leichhardt needs to be confined to NSW Cup like a lot of Sydney grounds

 

[Perth Red]

and we didn't pay a penny for it & have to service a debt for the next 20 years

And we don’t own it, have to pay rent on it and get a fraction of the revenue for its use that our own could offer.