Iamback
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So we ignore the last 3 years of sell outs?
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You do understand the concept of “increase“ right? Panthers avg 3 Years ago was 12k. hopefully a new stadium and better customer engagement will see them lift that avg over the coming years significantly.
Wow thats either some serious lack of faith in our product or an indication that we may need to look at bigger markets.
Has nothing to do with faith. I’m not hoping this happens by just building a 200m stadium like you are. I’m actually looking at the market and understanding it.
New airport 20mins away in 2026, 4.5 star hotel being built next door, 60k more residents in ten years, successful on the field with local players.
You talking about an increase now? You said 20K earlier. What is it?
Game day revenue doesn’t pay the bills… tv revenue does. You seem a little preoccupied with increasing crowds. The punters want atmosphere and rivalry….and nothing does that better than Leichhardt…Shark Park or Brookie bursting at the seams with a vocal home crowd.
That’s just a myth put out because we can’t get bums on seats. A club could earn significantly more revenue from its fanbase than the current $13million nrl tv grant, if it can build a big customer base to sell to.
I want to see clubs building customer bases that 1. support them building revenue that keeps them sustainable and able to invest in growth and not be so reliant on the nrl handing out the tv grant 2. Looks awsome on tv so the general unwashed look at the game and go “wow that’s a major modern sport that might be worth following” 3. Lift the game beyond its current suburban mentality to be a truly national/regionally international game played in modern stadiums in front of big crowds.
Most clubs battle to break even on game day. Think the Sharks need 14k just to cover costs. Think we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
Let’s stay on the sharks here…
) will love to see shark park full at 15 to 16K, much better than kind full just at the ends in a 25K 200m debt stadium. Can’t have it both ways.
Yes but that’s the point lol. Rent Al on a modern stadium ranges from around $100-150k a game. At $30 ticket avg that’s 4-5000 tickets to sell. Throw in marketing, game day experience etc and you need to sell around 9-10k tickets to break even. Whilst you are getting crowds of 12-14k you’re not making much money! Get that up to 20k plus and you’re starting to see some decent revenue. add in increased corporate sales a modern stadia and big crowds give you and you’re now making money. Get memberships up to 40k and were in business. it shouldn’t be impossible for a popunlarr sport for a club to be generating $20million plus a year revenue from its game day and customer base. Most clubs at moment would be struggling to hit $7-10mill as either the game/club doesnt have a big enough customer base or they are doing a poor job at engaging them.
Pretty much every sport in the world that is number 1 code in a decent sized population city is able to be around or above a 20k crowd avg. why shouldnt RL? This is t just a Sydney issue, it’s a whole of game issue. We just arent very good at translating our casual fanbase into rusted on active customers.Let’s stay on the sharks here…
1. They have absolutely done this and are well ahead of some rivals now in regards to diversifying their income. This is why the development took priority over extra stadium upgrades. Non football related acquisitions and more to come have secured the future. Now we can look to smart ground improvements within the realms of reality.
2. People watching on tv (which is where the money comes from
3. NO, because in Sydney it’s not this at all. If you want that outside of Sydney fine but stop forcing Sydney to get to these heights. It’s simply not possible. It’s not NFL. It’s not EPL. It’s rugby league in Aus.
Name another city with a crowded market like Sydney/Brisbane have, though. It’s tough and you’re right, we’re not good at it.
Link?
You are not being realistic.
Not to sound completely racist, but sydney is really diverse... to the point where i'd say there 2/5th of the population that are from asian areas that arent interested in any sports, the demographics of sydney comparison to Melbourne or Brisbane is huge, but with Melbourne at least AFL has been ingrained in the city and sharing the one massive stadium, helps all punters to go watch their game, sydney doesn't offer that, the city isn't built central, theyve tried pushing homebush, but there's too much hate between all clubs to see other matches, why would i spend money at homebush to watch souths, dogs or tigers when i follow panthers etc... Melbourne people go to watch a live game, the clubs playing isnt as important as the "Magic round" mentality
