The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Willow]

not that I am always logged into, I go into here on the work laptop on incognito mode. Not sure if that affects it

I'm telling you it does. The restrictions are attached to your membership.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Their supporters aren't.

Big whoop. You want to dsicriminate based on supporters financial basis? Talk about blatant stupidity.

 

[Iamback]

I'm telling you it does. The restrictions are attached to your membership.

again though other sites get ads. I will have to look at the settings, it isn't intentional my end

 

[Willow]

again though other sites get ads. I will have to look at the settings, it isn't intentional my end

Please read again what I posted. It's attached to your membership, so you need to turn off any ad blocker on all devices where you have logged into LU.

I'm not saying it's intentional, just trying to help you understand.

 

[Rod Coil]

ROFLMAO. You'd ignore both the Canterbury Bulldogs and Penrith Panthers who are amongst the most affluent of clubs?!

Don't take the bait. Waste of time.

 

[T-Boon]

Big whoop. You want to dsicriminate based on supporters financial basis? Talk about blatant stupidity.

They could exclude the less desirable clubs/burbs by saying no clubs that are more than 30 minutes from the CBD of their city.

 

[siv]

They could exclude the less desirable clubs/burbs by saying no clubs that are more than 30 minutes from the CBD of their city.

You mean the original Western Suburbs territory & Bears territories

 

[mongoose]

the NRL should exclude people based on their postcode? well this thread it officially cooked

 

[Timbo]

I don’t really see the point of another 12,000 seat stadium in Brisbane.

It’s too small for NRL, too big for Q-Cup.

 

[Dogs Of War]

I don’t really see the point of another 12,000 seat stadium in Brisbane.

It’s too small for NRL, too big for Q-Cup.

The area needs something. Not everybody wants to go into town. It's not like it won't host musical festivals and the like. And if you have been to Wynumn, it's aging and it's best days were like the 70s. Something like this can be the catalyst to getting the area moving in the right direction.

 

[AdelaideSharky]

The AFL will make sure that a rectangular SA won't happen - I suggest that is one reason they have started playing matches there again.

Plus, like the 2022 bid, any future WC bid will have the final at the MCG, which will be partly rebuilt by then with a capacity of 105K (new southern stand) plus 5k drop in seats (like Optus) to make it quasi rectangular. 110K will be hard for FIFA to resist - would be the biggest crowd since 1968 I think.

There already is one in Hindmarsh in Adelaide United's home ground in Coopers Stadium.

The problem is with any potential CBD stadium here is you get the old farts from the North Adelaide Residents Association who get their curlers and apricot slices in a tizz over any development in the Parklands as they think Colonel Light personally grew every blade of grass in there.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I wonder if they'll keep the Leagues Club on Wondall Rd and set up another one at Kitchener Park?

Possibly, I wonder how much non-football related traffic goes through the current leagues club? I'd imagine for some it's just a place to have a drink, a feed and to hand over some money to the pokies without really caring about which club the place is attached to.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

The area needs something. Not everybody wants to go into town. It's not like it won't host musical festivals and the like. And if you have been to Wynumn, it's aging and it's best days were like the 70s. Something like this can be the catalyst to getting the area moving in the right direction.

Yeah good points and I'll reluctantly admit I grew up in Wynnum and you're right, it hasn't changed much over the decades.

 

[AdelaideSharky]

So how do you explain the success of the Brisbane Lions and Sydney Swans?

If what you're saying is true, then they would draw no more than 5k to 10k people to their home games, yeah?

Lions draw more than the Bears ever did.

It makes a mockery of everything you said, doesn't it?

Swans are also the largest club in Sydney. Bigger than any RL club in Sydney.

So what evidence do you have that no one in Adelaide or Perth will support a couple of relocated RL clubs from Sydney?

Do you have any evidence, or is it just a biased and narrow-minded opinion that you're presenting as fact?

I've said it many times before and I'll say it again the Swans success was due to on field success from 96 onwards, the Super League war and the demise of clubs like Balmain & Norths etc.

Bar the Edelelsten years in the mid to late 80's the Swans had it incredibly tough and had to be bailed out by the AFL twice in the early 90's to avoid going out of business.

Had Tony Lockett, Paul Roos etc not come from St Kilda & Fitzroy respectively would the Swans have been the Cinderella story it was in the 90's? Highly doubt it.

 

[AdelaideSharky]

That's just your opinion and there's no evidence to support it. You're entitled to your opinion, but you cannot present it as an undeniable truth that must be blindly accepted.

Brisbane Bears were a new club and struggled. They merged with Fitzroy and have been far more successful. Their example makes a mockery of your claim.

Neither the Rams nor Reds failed. They drew more fans through the gate than some Sydney clubs. Arthurson, Quayle and News Ltd were responsible for The Reds' axing. Adelaide was a sacrifice to appease lowbrow hicks from struggling Sydney clubs who didn't want to accept reality.

Pretty sure the Rams died as the league knew it can't compete with the AFL down here.

The Crows had gone back to back the year the Rams died and Port entered the top league the year before too.

If Adelaide United and the 36ers can't compete with the Crows and Power how do you think RL will?

I hear talk all the time about bum sniffers from people here when I say I'm a league fan.

 

[Perth Red]

Possibly, I wonder how much non-football related traffic goes through the current leagues club? I'd imagine for some it's just a place to have a drink, a feed and to hand over some money to the pokies without really caring about which club the place is attached to.

Pretty much the same as nearly all LC's then? Hence why they have 30k plus members and the NRL clubs have 15k.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Possibly, I wonder how much non-football related traffic goes through the current leagues club? I'd imagine for some it's just a place to have a drink, a feed and to hand over some money to the pokies without really caring about which club the place is attached to.

A lot of people go in there to buy grog, bread, milk and have a spin on the pokies. Having a second one at Kitchener Park would be good for business.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Pretty sure the Rams died as the league knew it can't compete with the AFL down here.

The Crows had gone back to back the year the Rams died and Port entered the top league the year before too.

If Adelaide United and the 36ers can't compete with the Crows and Power how do you think RL will?

I hear talk all the time about bum sniffers from people here when I say I'm a league fan.

Cronulla is getting its arse kicked by the Sydney Swans.

Attendances over recent seasons.

Cronulla Less tham 13k
Swans More than 31k

Rugby League Tables / Attendances /Cronulla

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

AFL Tables - Sydney - Crowds

afltables.com

How can we have a team in Cronulla when its attendances are just over a third of what the Swans get?

The Rams drew more than 15k through the gates in 1997 and their all time average is higher than Cronulla's by 800.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances /Adelaide

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

 

[AdelaideSharky]

Cronulla is getting its arse kicked by the Sydney Swans.

Attendances over recent seasons.

Cronulla Less tham 13k
Swans More than 31k

Rugby League Tables / Attendances /Cronulla

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

AFL Tables - Sydney - Crowds

afltables.com

How can we have a team in Cronulla when its attendances are just over a third of what the Swans get?

The Rams drew more than 15k through the gates in 1997 and their all time average is higher than Cronulla's by 800.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances /Adelaide

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

Are you and that soccer troll on Youtube one and the same?

Nobody is more cooked in the head than you two.

The Swans represent the entire city of Sydney where as the Sharks represent the Sutherland Shire an area in the southern suburbs of Sydney.

Maybe rugby league nationwide should die using your rationale as the Swans kicked every club in the NRL's arse for crowds.

In the last year before the pandemic hit the Swans averaged 30K, the highest Sydney club that year was Parramatta with 18K in the first year of their new stadium.

You hate us and tar us all with the same brush because of the actions of a few drunk idiots which every club has.

I'd guarantee it that if I went to a Cowgirls game in Townsville a section of your own fans would do the same thing.

Moral of the story is EVERY f**king club in every sport worldwide has their fair share of moron supporters.

If you got out of that bubble you live in you'd realise that.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Yeah good points and I'll reluctantly admit I grew up in Wynnum and you're right, it hasn't changed much over the decades.

Thats got a lot to do with who owns most of Wynnum. He is getting old, and hopefully once it changes hands at some point it's real potential will be realised. I see it becoming something like Bulimba. It has most things in place, just needs a major refresh and some creative thinking like blocking off half of Edith Street so restaurants etc can move in.