The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Perth Red]

The area is going to grow significantly. Its population is already pushing towards 500k. A decent sized stadium in Moreton Bay will make it easier for RL fans on the Sunshine Coast to get to NRL games.

That’s like saying there’s 1 million people in northern sydney region so manly should get a new stadium. Dolphins moving to Redcliffe is just making the same mistake we made in Sydney

dolphins need to be the second brisbane club out of Suncorp, not an outer regional suburban club.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That’s like saying there’s 1 million people in northern sydney region so manly should get a new stadium. Dolphins moving to Redcliffe is just making the same mistake we made in Sydney

dolphins need to be the second brisbane club out of Suncorp, not an outer regional suburban club.

Manly doesn't promote itself as the Northern Sydney Sea Eagles. It makes sure everyone knows they only represent Manly and refuse to change. Dolphins have dropped "Redcliffe" and are trying to appeal to a large region.

 

[baselinepanther]

Manly doesn't promote itself as the Northern Sydney Sea Eagles. It makes sure everyone knows they only represent Manly and refuse to change. Dolphins have dropped "Redcliffe" and are trying to appeal to a large region.

thats right , all the way down through the nthn suburbs of brisbane ,
playing out of suncorp stadium. There won't be any significant improvements to the ground at redcliffe anytime soon. It'll be fine for the occasional trial same as the ground on the sunshine coast, but not for premiership matches.

 

[Jamberoo]

That’s like saying there’s 1 million people in northern sydney region so manly should get a new stadium. Dolphins moving to Redcliffe is just making the same mistake we made in Sydney

dolphins need to be the second brisbane club out of Suncorp, not an outer regional suburban club.

What mistakes were made in Sydney?

 

[yadamisha]

That’s like saying there’s 1 million people in northern sydney region so manly should get a new stadium. Dolphins moving to Redcliffe is just making the same mistake we made in Sydney

dolphins need to be the second brisbane club out of Suncorp, not an outer regional suburban club.

What a load of rubbish, why do they need to be a second Brisbane team? If that is the case maybe the NRL should have chosen a Brisbane team. They are representing an area not previously represented, that is a good thing!

 

[cumbrian Mackem]

What a load of rubbish, why do they need to be a second Brisbane team? If that is the case maybe the NRL should have chosen a Brisbane team. They are representing an area not previously represented, that is a good thing!

They need to be either or team instead of trying to be both.

 

[Colk]

What a load of rubbish, why do they need to be a second Brisbane team? If that is the case maybe the NRL should have chosen a Brisbane team. They are representing an area not previously represented, that is a good thing!

Considering the reason for the 17th team was a game at Suncorp every week then yes the team should have been a second Brisbane team rather than an area that isn’t

Essentially the Firehawks bid (terrrible moniker notwithstanding) would have achieved this but that’s not what News Ltd wanted.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Pretty sure Ballymore is getting a decent upgrade to the Western stand, there's talk they'll move back there once the construction is complete.

For RL, Redcliffe as is fine for trial games and maybe 1-2 club games a year against the lower drawing teams in Brissy (Newy and Penrith come to mind). Majority need to be a Suncorp, but I am reserved as to how successful this "club" will be..... They're announcement presser rubbed me up the wrong way with the whole 'we're not a manufactured club like the Broncos and NQ........' Oh okay then merkins, use your real name then if you're so proud of your heritage.

Isn't Ballymore becoming a hockey stadium though? Not sure it will be usable for RU/RL if that's the case.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

That’s like saying there’s 1 million people in northern sydney region so manly should get a new stadium. Dolphins moving to Redcliffe is just making the same mistake we made in Sydney

dolphins need to be the second brisbane club out of Suncorp, not an outer regional suburban club.

The Dolphins are the second Brisbane club playing out of Suncorp and the best of the three bids that were presented.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Considering the reason for the 17th team was a game at Suncorp every week then yes the team should have been a second Brisbane team rather than an area that isn’t

Essentially the Firehawks bid (terrrible moniker notwithstanding) would have achieved this but that’s not what News Ltd wanted.

I don't think it would make sense to choose the second best bid in a bidding process.

 

[beave]

Isn't Ballymore becoming a hockey stadium though? Not sure it will be usable for RU/RL if that's the case.

Unless somethings changed in the plans that I haven't heard about, the QRU went with a 18k capacity and a more subdued/cost effective model. The capacity is basically the same as before but better corporate digs on the west side.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Unless somethings changed in the plans that I haven't heard about, the QRU went with a 18k capacity and a more subdued/cost effective model. The capacity is basically the same as before but better corporate digs on the west side.

Thanks mate - I guess the redevelopment will allow hockey to be played on it but will continue to be a Rugby stadium afterwards.

BTW - how the hell do the QRU and AFL (Springfield) own their own ground in Brisbane and the QRL / NRL don't? RL really needs to get better at this Government lobbying thing. The AFL and RU seem to have it down.

 

[Big Salad]

The hockey won't be at Ballymore... they just said it would be to help get the Olympic bid across the line.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Unless somethings changed in the plans that I haven't heard about, the QRU went with a 18k capacity and a more subdued/cost effective model. The capacity is basically the same as before but better corporate digs on the west side.

What a shithouse looking football ground. Perfect for the Reds and Roar.

 

[Perth Red]

What mistakes were made in Sydney?

Thinking you need a club in every suburb to cover the city.

 

[MugaB]

Thinking you need a club in every suburb to cover the city.

It's not a mistake, its just they way the comp has expanded, ALF has expanded the same way out of Melbourne..
Its a different story if the game started from day dot, but it didn't so maybe once people get over that fact, we can move on

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It's not a mistake, its just they way the comp has expanded, ALF has expanded the same way out of Melbourne..
Its a different story if the game started from day dot, but it didn't so maybe once people get over that fact, we can move on

The BRL was relegated to second-tier status because the NSWRL had access to pokies since the 1950s. Queensland clubs didn't get the right to use pokies until the 1990s. Take away the pokies revenue that NSWRL clubs had over their counterparts in the BRL until the 1990s and the NSWRL never would have been able to expand like it did between 1982 until 1995.

The only reason we still have nine clubs in Sydney is because broadcast revenue, which wouldn't be as high without high-rating non-NSW clubs like the Broncos, Storm and Cowboys, allows our game to command enough money to keep players from jumping to RU while propping up unviable clubs like Cronulla and Manly. The money squandered keeping small Sydney clubs alive would be better spent at the grassroots level to counter the incursions AwFuL has made over the last 40 years, as it will go a long way to determining if our game remains a mainstream sport in this country in 2050 or becomes a niche game like RU.

AwFuL can spend millions of dollars on developing their game across Australia because their Melbourne-based clubs draw far more revenue from memberships and gate-receipts and, their broadcast deal is richer than ours, allowing them to have a bigger salary cap and convert the next generation of kids to their stupid game. While our game wastes its money on appeasing dumb old drunks from Sutherland and Northern Beaches who think it's 1967, AwFuL is slowly converting their children and grandchildren into Swans fans. This is going to come back and haunt our game in 30 years time. RU is cashed up around the world and will be in a position to plunder our best players when we become a niche sport, which is a real possibility because there just aren't enough young fans to replace the older ones who will die off over the next 30 years.

 

[Pippen94]

The BRL was relegated to second-tier status because the NSWRL had access to pokies since the 1950s. Queensland clubs didn't get the right to use pokies until the 1990s. Take away the pokies revenue that NSWRL clubs had over their counterparts in the BRL until the 1990s and the NSWRL never would have been able to expand like it did between 1982 until 1995.

The only reason we still have nine clubs in Sydney is because broadcast revenue, which wouldn't be as high without high-rating non-NSW clubs like the Broncos, Storm and Cowboys, allows our game to command enough money to keep players from jumping to RU while propping up unviable clubs like Cronulla and Manly. The money squandered keeping small Sydney clubs alive would be better spent at the grassroots level to counter the incursions AwFuL has made over the last 40 years, as it will go a long way to determining if our game remains a mainstream sport in this country in 2050 or becomes a niche game like RU.

AwFuL can spend millions of dollars on developing their game across Australia because their Melbourne-based clubs draw far more revenue from memberships and gate-receipts and, their broadcast deal is richer than ours, allowing them to have a bigger salary cap and convert the next generation of kids to their stupid game. While our game wastes its money on appeasing dumb old drunks from Sutherland and Northern Beaches who think it's 1967, AwFuL is slowly converting their children and grandchildren into Swans fans. This is going to come back and haunt our game in 30 years time. RU is cashed up around the world and will be in a position to plunder our best players when we become a niche sport, which is a real possibility because there just aren't enough young fans to replace the older ones who will die off over the next 30 years.

So game just secured biggest broadcast deal & ur response is this?! Some ppl take good news differently I see.

Considering the reason for the 17th team was a game at Suncorp every week then yes the team should have been a second Brisbane team rather than an area that isn’t

Essentially the Firehawks bid (terrrible moniker notwithstanding) would have achieved this but that’s not what News Ltd wanted.

Yeah, that wasn't the reason but keep telling urself that..

 

[Colk]

What was the reason then? Please enlighten me

 

[Tiger Shark]

So game just secured biggest broadcast deal & ur response is this?! Some ppl take good news differently I see.



Yeah, that wasn't the reason but keep telling urself that..

Ignore him, he's just miserable that the Cowboys are rubbish and will be for a while and his hate for Manly and Sharks is the only thing that gets him up in the morning.