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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Pneuma

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In your opinion. Many would say a full hill looks way better than a full grandstand, and creates a much better atmosphere. Either way hills are gonna be around for a LONG time in the NRL.

Any new comer to the game would not even notice the crowd or stadium - they would be more interested in what's actually happening on the field. Like most other footy fans.

Stop talking out of your ass and stating it's fact.
Solid response. Won’t shut him up though. He thrives on negativity.
 

yakstorm

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The Wests Tigers strategy of getting private equity to help fund works at Leichhardt Oval seem delusional.

PE generally won't invest in anything they can't own a share of & the Tigers don't own anything at LO to sell and the council isn't in a position to sell the land either.

That means the options become, either the PE own something at the venue, like the Grandstand, which maybe the council could lease them, or the PE grants a loan to the WT, which is becomes incredibly risky.

Considering the locals around LO generally want less big games at the venue, are anti any major capital works being done & the venue has a lot of nearby competition for events, I can't see anyone serious investing in the WT plan.

CSS has a lot more upside for investment, based upon location, number of regular tennants, amount of growth in the area, etc, but again I would be surprised if anyone bought.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Standing bays are no better than Hills really
That’s partly a matter of cultural preference though- in much of Europe fans actually prefer standing bays. There are grounds with removable seating to satisfy FIFA requirements where they actually take the seats out for local league games.
 

SpaceMonkey

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The Wests Tigers strategy of getting private equity to help fund works at Leichhardt Oval seem delusional.

PE generally won't invest in anything they can't own a share of & the Tigers don't own anything at LO to sell and the council isn't in a position to sell the land either.

That means the options become, either the PE own something at the venue, like the Grandstand, which maybe the council could lease them, or the PE grants a loan to the WT, which is becomes incredibly risky.

Considering the locals around LO generally want less big games at the venue, are anti any major capital works being done & the venue has a lot of nearby competition for events, I can't see anyone serious investing in the WT plan.

CSS has a lot more upside for investment, based upon location, number of regular tennants, amount of growth in the area, etc, but again I would be surprised if anyone bought.
Yeah it’s nuts. Plus Leichhardt in itself in its current configuration actually has heritage value. It should basically be preserved as is with the only upgrades being to keep the existing facilities up to code. If the Tigers want more than that play elsewhere.
I’d say the same for Kogarah, Brookie could go either way though I resale don’t see a case for much more than a no frills single tier stand to replace the hill there.
 

Suitman

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Kenilworth Rd, Luton Town.
Away supporters enter the ground through the two blue gates underneath peoples terrace homes as seen in the bottom right hand of the pic.
To say this ground is unique is an understatement!! Lol.

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Anyway, this is what they have planned on an alternative site in town.

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Iamback

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That’s partly a matter of cultural preference though- in much of Europe fans actually prefer standing bays. There are grounds with removable seating to satisfy FIFA requirements where they actually take the seats out for local league games.

Alot of that is safety. A full hill looks more open then a little tin box are standing in
 

The Great Dane

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Kenilworth Rd, Luton Town.
Away supporters enter the ground through the two blue gates underneath peoples terrace homes as seen in the bottom right hand of the pic.
To say this ground is unique is an understatement!! Lol.

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Anyway, this is what they have planned on an alternative site in town.

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I went with a local mate to game at Kenilworth Road to support QPR and sat in the Oak stand in 06.

Getting to a game by walking under somebody's house and through their backyard is a trippy experience. A lot of people like to say that it's the worst ground in England, but I thought it was great. It's a really unique ground, and worth going just for the experience.
 
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King-Gutho94

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I went with a local mate to game at Kenilworth Road to support QPR and sat in the Oak stand in 06.

Getting to a game by walking under somebody's house and through their backyard is a trippy experience. A lot of people like to say that it's the worst ground in England, but I thought it was great. It's a really unique ground, and worth going just for the experience.
My mates from England and those who from Australia who lived in England/London for a few years reckon Luton is a rough as guts town.

They didn't recommend ever going there haha.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Curious, what are everyone’s opinions on the current quality of NRL stadia and which needs upgrades, and which don’t ?

give them ratings of 1-5
5 - good modern stadium, no need for upgrades
4 - pretty good, no need for major works but could maybe do with some modernisation or minor works
3 - Partially ok, could be brought up to 4-5 with the addition of a stand or partial rebuild
2 - not NRL standard but good as a heritage ground with maybe some minor improvements
1 - due for a complete rebuild/replacement

Id say
5- Allianz, AAMI, Bankwest, Gold Coast, QCB, Suncorp
4 - Newcastle, Endeavor (based on when upgrades are finished)
3 - Mt Smart, WIN, Redcliffe
2.5 - Brookvale
2 - Leichhardt, Kogarah
1 - Canberra, Penrith, Campbelltown,

not rating Accor because we know it’s just oversized and not suitable for club footy generally.

Brookie gets a 2.5 as it’s always going to be on the small side but replacing the hill with another stand would get it to a reasonable level.

Thoughts?
 

Wb1234

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I went with a local mate to game at Kenilworth Road to support QPR and sat in the Oak stand in 06.

Getting to a game by walking under somebody's house and through their backyard is a trippy experience. A lot of people like to say that it's the worst ground in England, but I thought it was great. It's a really unique ground, and worth going just for the experience.

it’s a du
Curious, what are everyone’s opinions on the current quality of NRL stadia and which needs upgrades, and which don’t ?

give them ratings of 1-5
5 - good modern stadium, no need for upgrades
4 - pretty good, no need for major works but could maybe do with some modernisation or minor works
3 - Partially ok, could be brought up to 4-5 with the addition of a stand or partial rebuild
2 - not NRL standard but good as a heritage ground with maybe some minor improvements
1 - due for a complete rebuild/replacement

Id say
5- Allianz, AAMI, Bankwest, Gold Coast, QCB, Suncorp
4 - Newcastle, Endeavor (based on when upgrades are finished)
3 - Mt Smart, WIN, Redcliffe
2.5 - Brookvale
2 - Leichhardt, Kogarah
1 - Canberra, Penrith, Campbelltown,

not rating Accor because we know it’s just oversized and not suitable for club footy generally.

Brookie gets a 2.5 as it’s always going to be on the small side but replacing the hill with another stand would get it to a reasonable level.

Thoughts?
canberra and Penrith aren’t that bad

I’d put both ahead of shark park lo and Brookie and kayo
 

SpaceMonkey

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it’s a du

canberra and Penrith aren’t that bad

I’d put both ahead of shark park lo and Brookie and kayo
Wasn’t really intending it to be a ranking - hence the scores thing I came up with. More rating them for what should realistically be done with them
 

Perth Red

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Curious, what are everyone’s opinions on the current quality of NRL stadia and which needs upgrades, and which don’t ?

give them ratings of 1-5
5 - good modern stadium, no need for upgrades
4 - pretty good, no need for major works but could maybe do with some modernisation or minor works
3 - Partially ok, could be brought up to 4-5 with the addition of a stand or partial rebuild
2 - not NRL standard but good as a heritage ground with maybe some minor improvements
1 - due for a complete rebuild/replacement

Id say
5- Allianz, AAMI, Bankwest, Gold Coast, QCB, Suncorp
4 - Newcastle, Endeavor (based on when upgrades are finished)
3 - Mt Smart, WIN, Redcliffe
2.5 - Brookvale
2 - Leichhardt, Kogarah
1 - Canberra, Penrith, Campbelltown,

not rating Accor because we know it’s just oversized and not suitable for club footy generally.

Brookie gets a 2.5 as it’s always going to be on the small side but replacing the hill with another stand would get it to a reasonable level.

Thoughts?
Your rating LO, Kogorah and brookie higher than canberra And penrith? How’s that work?

id rate them
5- Allianz, AAMI, Bankwest, Gold Coast, QCB, Suncorp
4 -
3 - Mt Smart, WIN, Newcastle (all would benefit from new stands)
2 - canberra, Cronulla, penrith, Redcliffe (replacement or extensive development needed)
1 - Leichhardt, Kogarah, brookvale, Campbelltown, Sunshine Coast (not fit for nrl and should be replaced or not used)
 
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Wb1234

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Your rating LO, Kogorah and brookie higher than canberra And penrith? How’s that work?

id rate them
5- Allianz, AAMI, Bankwest, Gold Coast, QCB, Suncorp
4 -
3 - Mt Smart, WIN, Newcastle (all would benefit from new stands)
2 - canberra, Cronulla, penrith, Redcliffe
1 - Leichhardt, Kogarah, brookvale, Campbelltown, Sunshine Coast
*1 hbf park and craven park
5 mkm stadium
 
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