The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[titoelcolombiano]

Which isn't an issue because both the Reds and Roar are trying to move away from playing at Suncorp, they'd be gone already if a viable alternative already existed, and the Jets aren't an NRL side and won't/shouldn't join the NRL anytime soon if at all.

It's unlikely that there'll be another NRL side in Brisbane at least before the 32 Olympics, and by rights it probably shouldn't happen for a fair while after then either, but even then if/when a new stadium is built in Brisbane it should be a boutique stadium that's as centrally located as possible to suit the Roar and Reds needs as well, not expensive single tenant suburban grounds in the outer boonies for a gaggle of superfluous NRL sides.

Either way your problem is a non-issue.

Incorrect, Roar will play 9 games at Suncorp this season and the Reds all their games at Suncorp next season.

On Ipswich/ Western Corridor, it will happen and is a no brainer. I certainly didn't suggest that they come in next though. I'd be fine with giving the Dolphins a good decade.

On stadia, the Ipswich stadium was proposed amongst the Jets' recent bid which makes complete sense.

 

[TheEroticGamer]

How big should an Ipswich stadium be? Based off population growth surely no smaller than 30k. Same goes for Sunshine Coast.

Both are large, growing areas that deserve more than being tacked onto inner city bids that have nothing to do with them.

 

[Canard]

How big should an Ipswich stadium be? Based off population growth surely no smaller than 30k. Same goes for Sunshine Coast.

Both are large, growing areas that deserve more than being tacked onto inner city bids that have nothing to do with them.

Having a 30k+ stadium that's that remote from the majority of Brisbane would be a disaster.

Sports precincts need to be centrally located and close to multiple public transport options.

We need to avoid the Sydney model, not adopt it.

 

[The Great Dane]

Incorrect, Roar will play 9 games at Suncorp this season and the Reds all their games at Suncorp next season.

I never said that they weren't going to play games at Suncorp next season, and none of that changes the fact that for years now both have made it clear that they'd move away from Suncorp if it was possible. They'll move if/when a viable alternative exists, and would have already if it already existed.

The Roar were so desperate that they trailed playing games at Dolphins, which was a predictable disaster.

On Ipswich/ Western Corridor, it will happen and is a no brainer. I certainly didn't suggest that they come in next though. I'd be fine with giving the Dolphins a good decade.

On stadia, the Ipswich stadium was proposed amongst the Jets' recent bid which makes complete sense.

If we accept that it is in fact a 'no brainer' (it's not BTW, it's a stupid idea that's only appeasing to the luddite faction of the sport), that doesn't mean that it makes any rational sense from the point of view of city planning and the commercial viability of the stadiums for a government to invest in building single tenant stadiums in backwaters all over the city instead of other alternative strategies.

Like always you're just advocating that Brisbane should repeat all the mistakes that have been made in Sydney...

 

[Wb1234]

I never said that they weren't going to play games at Suncorp next season, and none of that changes the fact that for years now both have made it clear that they'd move away from Suncorp if it was possible. They'll move if/when a viable alternative exists, and would have already if it already existed.

The Roar were so desperate that they trailed playing games at Dolphins, which was a predictable disaster.

If we accept that it is in fact a 'no brainer' (it's not BTW, it's a stupid idea that's only appeasing to the luddite faction of the sport), that doesn't mean that it makes any rational sense from the point of view of city planning and the commercial viability of the stadiums for a government to invest in building single tenant stadiums in backwaters all over the city instead of other alternative strategies.

Like always you're just advocating that Brisbane should repeat all the mistakes that have been made in Sydney...

Yep having geographic spread of rugby league clubs over a major city has been a disaster for our game much the same as it hasn’t worked for our rivals in Melbourne

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I never said that they weren't going to play games at Suncorp next season, and none of that changes the fact that for years now both have made it clear that they'd move away from Suncorp if it was possible. They'll move if/when a viable alternative exists, and would have already if it already existed.

The Roar were so desperate that they trailed playing games at Dolphins, which was a predictable disaster.

If we accept that it is in fact a 'no brainer' (it's not BTW, it's a stupid idea that's only appeasing to the luddite faction of the sport), that doesn't mean that it makes any rational sense from the point of view of city planning and the commercial viability of the stadiums for a government to invest in building single tenant stadiums in backwaters all over the city instead of other alternative strategies.

Like always you're just advocating that Brisbane should repeat all the mistakes that have been made in Sydney...

So Ipswich, which is a different city, should play in Brisbane city? Makes sense, I'll let the Titans know to pack up and move to Suncorp too.

4 clubs in SEQ is not remotely the same as 9 clubs in Sydney and I've already advocated for the fact that the Broncos, Dolphins and Jets should play their big derby matches at Suncorp for capacity reasons. Much like I think Sydney could benefit from a match of the round each week at Allianz.

BTW, the Roar and Reds do have an option, it's called Ballymore, but they still prefer Suncorp.

 

[Perth Red]

So Ipswich, which is a different city, should play in Brisbane city? Makes sense, I'll let the Titans know to pack up and move to Suncorp too.

No but a South Brisbane Jets/Firehawks that represents Ipswich as well as the whole south of the river should. Do we really want another outer suburban club in the comp? I cant see Qlnd govt forking out $3-400mill for another stadium can you?

 

[Canard]

So Ipswich, which is a different city, should play in Brisbane city? Makes sense, I'll let the Titans know to pack up and move to Suncorp too.

4 clubs in SEQ is not remotely the same as 9 clubs in Sydney and I've already advocated for the fact that the Broncos, Dolphins and Jets should play their big derby matches at Suncorp for capacity reasons. Much like I think Sydney could benefit from a match of the round each week at Allianz.

BTW, the Roar and Reds do have an option, it's called Ballymore, but they still prefer Suncorp.

Redcliffe is 40km from Suncorp.

Ipswich is 40km from Suncorp.

It's also a crazy Sydney thing, to think they only people who live in one or two suburbs will support a team. RL fans travel from all around Brisbane, so a central location near a major transport hub is the best.

Your Sydney centric thinking doesn't apply here

 

[Perth Red]

Redcliffe is 40km from Suncorp.

Ipswich is 40km from Suncorp.

It's also a crazy Sydney thing, to think they only people who live in one or two suburbs will support a team. RL fans travel from all around Brisbane, so a central location near a major transport hub is the best.

Your Sydney centric thinking doesn't apply here

TBF no city in Australia uses the dispersed stadium model other than Sydney. Maybe a question of geography but more likely a question of mentality. The other cities have built top notch facilities centrally with great public transport options.

 

[mongoose]

Redcliffe is 40km from Suncorp.

Ipswich is 40km from Suncorp.

It's also a crazy Sydney thing, to think they only people who live in one or two suburbs will support a team. RL fans travel from all around Brisbane, so a central location near a major transport hub is the best.

Your Sydney centric thinking doesn't apply here

Ipswich is considered part of greater Brisbane as well, the Gold Coast isn't.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

TBF no city in Australia uses the dispersed stadium model other than Sydney. Maybe a question of geography but more likely a question of mentality. The other cities have built top notch facilities centrally with great public transport options.

Those other cities were all planned. Sydney grew into what it is with geography being a major contributor

 

[Canard]

Those other cities were all planned. Sydney grew into what it is with geography being a major contributor

Exactly, and that's why other cities need to avoid it

 

[Wb1234]

Those other cities were all planned. Sydney grew into what it is with geography being a major contributor

Hull wasn’t planned either hence his argument that his club play at craven park which is a dump compared to the 23k all seater five minutes drive away

 

[morley101]

Hull wasn’t planned either hence his argument that his club play at craven park which is a dump compared to the 23k all seater five minutes drive away

I thought it was 15 mins...

 

[T.S Quint]

Haha nothing screams top notch sports stadium like letting people take their dogs for a sht there!


BREAKING: We’ve just officially opened Leichhardt Oval for access as a public park.

You can now walk into the 8th wonder of the world from dawn til dusk, Monday - Friday, for a trial across summer as a public park.

You can go to the Wayne Pearce Hill for a picnic, to walk your dog or for a few late afternooon beverages.

Our aim is to make this permanent, all week, at the end of the trial.

Please stay off the playing surface because with so much high quality sport played on the ground we don’t want to jeapordise the surface quality.
Darcy Byrne

This made me laugh when I got the notice for it.

"Come and enjoy Leichhardt Oval!"

"P.S. Don't go on Leichhardt Oval."

 

[yadamisha]

Redcliffe is 40km from Suncorp.

Ipswich is 40km from Suncorp.

It's also a crazy Sydney thing, to think they only people who live in one or two suburbs will support a team. RL fans travel from all around Brisbane, so a central location near a major transport hub is the best.

Your Sydney centric thinking doesn't apply here

Both Redcliffe and Ipswich are separate cities to Brisbane. Both cities' fan base for their teams core support is not Brisbane. Redcliffe's is North Brisbane + Redcliffe / Moreton Bay Council Region and Sunshine Coast. Redcliffe is the center of that support base.

 

[Perth Red]

Both Redcliffe and Ipswich are separate cities to Brisbane. Both cities' fan base for their teams core support is not Brisbane. Redcliffe's is North Brisbane + Redcliffe / Moreton Bay Council Region and Sunshine Coast. Redcliffe is the center of that support base.

They couldnt sell 10k full memberships in the redcliffe area. Id suggest most of The Dolphins fanbase is actually south of redcliffe looking at crowds at Suncorp and their inability to sell all seats at Kayo stadium to members.

 

[TheEroticGamer]

If your intent is to give a sense of ownership of a team to Ipswich based people you need to give them something they don’t already have. The the’s are named as such to cater to everyone including Ipswich but alas a dodgy naming convention done by out of touch corporates isn’t viewed as sufficient. Why would a differently named third team make a difference?

If you’re not going to commit to Ipswich then don’t worry about it at all.

 

[mongoose]

Both Redcliffe and Ipswich are separate cities to Brisbane. Both cities' fan base for their teams core support is not Brisbane. Redcliffe's is North Brisbane + Redcliffe / Moreton Bay Council Region and Sunshine Coast. Redcliffe is the center of that support base.

lol stfu redcliffe is more a part of Brisbane than the sunshine coast is part of moreton bay

 

[Canard]

Both Redcliffe and Ipswich are separate cities to Brisbane. Both cities' fan base for their teams core support is not Brisbane. Redcliffe's is North Brisbane + Redcliffe / Moreton Bay Council Region and Sunshine Coast. Redcliffe is the center of that support base.

We're you stoned when you wrote this?