The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[ayatollah_murdoch]

Thats how stadiums are built these days, or at least how they built the new stands at HBF stadium.
Difference is if concrete or scaffold. Scaffold obviously a lot cheaper and easier to remove.
Heres the east stand at hbf, each of those big concrete spine parts were craned in and the roof was all pre made sections craned into place.

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Example of a roofed modular scaffold stand. These could work well for the ends of a cheaper build stadium.

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They can make modular stands for the Brissy Olympics

 

[Vlad59]

They can make modular stands for the Brissy Olympics

Great idea although afl red would prefer a 60000 seat afl stadium.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

AFL Red, architect.

 

[beave]

yeh really didnt get the comment about wombledon!

I suppose depends how temp they are? HBF stadium seemed to have those type stands prior to the refurb for over a decade. How long was NQ cowboys temp stands up for? Biggest issue for thos stands is more having a decent roof, its hard to build a decent sized roof out of scaffold.

Maybe two main stands in concrete and two of these style end stands would bring costs down a bit?

At $300mill+ for two stands at Penrith I doubt we are going to be seeing any new stadiums anywhere for a long time.

you talking about the ones they set up for origin at QCB on the northern end?

 

[Perth Red]

you talking about the ones they set up for origin at QCB on the northern end?

yeh
the ones at hbf before the upgrade were there for about 15 years I think.

 

[beave]

yeh
the ones at hbf before the upgrade were there for about 15 years I think.

they started to get built about 1.5 weeks out from the game were being pulled apart the next morning. I think it was trucked up from Brissy.

 

[cinders7]

Last I checked QE2 stadium (QSAC/future Brissie olympic athletic stadium) still has temp stands from the 1982 Commonwealth Games. They were not fun to sit on when watching the Broncos back in the day.

Temp stands definitely have their place, moreso for a small club building their way up to higher leagues in an open system. In the NRL they'd be joining at the highest level immediately and would need to compete with top level amenities or deal with the lack of casuals at their games.

 

[Brutus]

Last I checked QE2 stadium (QSAC/future Brissie olympic athletic stadium) still has temp stands from the 1982 Commonwealth Games. They were not fun to sit on when watching the Broncos back in the day.

Temp stands definitely have their place, moreso for a small club building their way up to higher leagues in an open system. In the NRL they'd be joining at the highest level immediately and would need to compete with top level amenities or deal with the lack of casuals at their games.

It was an absolutely awful ground to watch footy at - QEII. Those temp stands were so far away and on a terrible angle.

 

[cinders7]

It was an absolutely awful ground to watch footy at - QEII. Those temp stands were so far away and on a terrible angle.

The original Graveyard, not just for visiting teams but for home fans aswell. View, atmosphere, amenities, you name it: it sucked in every way.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

It was an absolutely awful ground to watch footy at - QEII. Those temp stands were so far away and on a terrible angle.

It was 8 long years

 

[yakstorm]

The modular approach can be built to be more permanent. The National Football Stadium in Port Moresby contains a 3,000 seat permanent concrete grandstand (which includes corporate facilities, etc), whilst the other seats around the venue were built using the modular approach and are expected to be in place for the next 25 years.

Cost for that was AUD$88m (https://populous.com/an-optimistic-...national-football-stadium-in-papua-new-guinea), with the biggest cost being bringing the equipment and materials into PNG.

 

[Canard]

The modular approach can be built to be more permanent. The National Football Stadium in Port Moresby contains a 3,000 seat permanent concrete grandstand (which includes corporate facilities, etc), whilst the other seats around the venue were built using the modular approach and are expected to be in place for the next 25 years.

Cost for that was AUD$88m (https://populous.com/an-optimistic-...national-football-stadium-in-papua-new-guinea), with the biggest cost being bringing the equipment and materials into PNG.

That just isn't going to be suitable for a stadium in Australia for the NRL though.

No roofing (or a tiny amount), no corporates. I would suggest the facilities (food, beverage and toiltets etc. would be next to non-existent.

This would be great for a QCup or NSW Cup side maybe.

 

[yakstorm]

That just isn't going to be suitable for a stadium in Australia for the NRL though.

No roofing (or a tiny amount), no corporates. I would suggest the facilities (food, beverage and toiltets etc. would be next to non-existent.

This would be great for a QCup or NSW Cup side maybe.

It actually has corporate facilities for 500 people, a 300 person viewing deck, over 200 toilets and 50 food & beverage outlets, but regardless, I wasn't stating it was an NRL ground, just that the modular grandstands can be built to be permanent.

No NRL club is going to be building a completely modular stadium anyway. Anyone who may consider that approach, firstly wouldn't be in a position to just knock down all the permanent structures they have in place, and secondly would only be considering this as an option of increasing capacity at the lowest possible cost point.

 

[parrawentyfan]

That just isn't going to be suitable for a stadium in Australia for the NRL though.

No roofing (or a tiny amount), no corporates. I would suggest the facilities (food, beverage and toiltets etc. would be next to non-existent.

This would be great for a QCup or NSW Cup side maybe.

Potentially better than the hills they have at places like Brookvale and WIN?

but yes lack of facilities would be painful.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Modular doesn’t necessarily mean scaffolding either. It’s basically anything that can be built offsite to a standard design and assstmbled onsite. Think steel girder construction with a design life in the decades. But yeah in general it’s suited for just building stands, not so much fully serviced stadia. Though some facilities like toilet blocks and merch/food stands can also be effectively provided with modular buildings or mobile facilities.

 

[Captain Apollo]

It was an absolutely awful ground to watch footy at - QEII. Those temp stands were so far away and on a terrible angle.

The temp stands were also mainly in the sun during day games. Hence it felt like sitting on an oven hot plate when it was warm weather.

 

[siv]

What have centres of xelence done for the game?

Created a bunch of lower grade venues

Seems we are heading towards NRL and NRLW being played at main venues

While RG and U21s are played at CoE fields with no hill or seating

 

[The Great Dane]

I've said for a while that the Raiders should explore building a cheap or modular stadium as a stop gap until the government gets around to building the new stadium in the next couple decades.

With the help of a developer and potentially the government and NRL, the Raiders could buy some decent land and build a 16-20k basic stadium as cheaply as possible, no thrills just the bare necessities. They could rent it out to the Brumbies and potential A-league side and continue to use Bruce for bigger matches where necessary. Once the new stadium is finally built they could simply dismantle it and develop the land.

It'd be a solid compromise if they could pull it off, which I admit isn't a given, but they'd never consider it. They are too entitled and lacking in ambition to seriously attempt to solve the issue for themselves.

 

[Canard]

Modular doesn’t necessarily mean scaffolding either. It’s basically anything that can be built offsite to a standard design and assstmbled onsite. Think steel girder construction with a design life in the decades.

That's how all modem stadia are built.

It's not like the steel was cast in situ at Commbank or the SFS for example.

The only difference I can see is in the construction of the footing and foundations.

And that's not exactly the major cost item anyway.

 

[Panfas]

Penrith stadium old vs new