The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Jamberoo]

$3.4b for a 55k stadium is highway robbery no matter which way you paint in. Again for context, it would be the second most expensive stadium ever built behind Sofi in LA without most of the bells and whistles that come with that stadium.

That huge spend then leaves Suncorp stadium, which hasn’t been touched for 30 years, in the lurch for quite a while as there would be no appetite for spending money on stadiums anytime soon after that. Suncorp is the main stadium in the city, the one that has sold out 9 times this year for Rugby League alone, soon to be 10.

I’m a big cricket fan myself but how often is cricket going to need those extra seats? Likewise AFL? Maybe a couple times a year if that. Some of the QSAC math is questionable for sure, but spending 2-3 stadiums worth of money on one that isn’t even that big and won’t ever be the city’s most used isn’t the answer either. For $3.4b Brisbane should be getting A LOT more than the Victoria Park “plan”.

Cricket and AFL don’t need many more seats at all, they will simply need a new stadium in 10 or so years. Just like Moore Park reached the end of its useful life so will the Gabba. Just make it 42k like the Gabba used to be. Forget this 55k+ nonsense. Make it less round, more oval like Adelaide, so it can be used for RL when Suncorp needs to be rebuilt in 10 - 15 years.

 

[Perth Red]

Just look at what London did for their 2012 stadium. They built a stadium on the cheap that was designed to be reduced in capacity after the games. Brisbane can do some thing similiar with QSAC.

London, like Brisbane, don’t have a need for a 70,000 seat oval.

London 2012 has been hailed as one of the greatest ever games.

London Olympic stadium had an 80k capacity!

 

[jim_57]

Cricket and AFL don’t need many more seats at all, they will simply need a new stadium in 10 or so years. Just like Moore Park reached the end of its useful life so will the Gabba. Just make it 42k like the Gabba used to be. Forget this 55k+ nonsense. Make it less round, more oval like Adelaide, so it can be used for RL when Suncorp needs to be rebuilt in 10 - 15 years.

There won’t be any rebuild of Suncorp any time soon if $3.4b is spent on a new oval at Victoria Park which is what I’m driving at. That’s the spending for 2 and a bit Optus stadiums for example, people have mentioned $300m only getting 2 stands at Penrith, with the Victoria Park money Queensland could build 11 Penriths.

The money being thrown around has gotten out of hand. If you’d have said a few years ago that Suncorp & the Gabba would split $1.2b then you’d assume both would be getting capacity increases and a nice makeover, now who can be sure. That’s why we need to see an actual detailed plan of what the money will get.

 

[Jamberoo]

There won’t be any rebuild of Suncorp any time soon if $3.4b is spent on a new oval at Victoria Park which is what I’m driving at. That’s the spending for 2 and a bit Optus stadiums for example, people have mentioned $300m only getting 2 stands at Penrith, with the Victoria Park money Queensland could build 11 Penriths.

The money being thrown around has gotten out of hand. If you’d have said a few years ago that Suncorp & the Gabba would split $1.2b then you’d assume both would be getting capacity increases and a nice makeover, now who can be sure. That’s why we need to see an actual detailed plan of what the money will get.

The current plan of QSAC and tarting up Gabba/Suncorp is $3.2B. $3.4B was for a ‘60k - 80k’ stadium. Make it 40k - 45k, then put $1B towards a Suncorp rebuild.

 

[i0Nic]

London Olympic stadium had an 80k capacity!

So? Because London had 80k Brisbane needs to have 80 too?

 

[jim_57]

The current plan of QSAC and tarting up Gabba/Suncorp is $3.2B. $3.4B was for a ‘60k - 80k’ stadium. Make it 40k - 45k, then put $1B towards a Suncorp rebuild.

The $3.4b was for 55k capacity for Victoria Park.

 

[i0Nic]

Look at what's been happening with Paris having events in Marseille and Tahiti. LA is having events at Oklahoma City. Maybe Brisbane should move athletics to the MCG or Accor. It's time to get more creative with the budget for these games.

 

[Perth Red]

So? Because London had 80k Brisbane needs to have 80 too?

yes, or there about.
40k is a joke and not seen for over a hundred years.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Look at what's been happening with Paris having events in Marseille and Tahiti. LA is having events at Oklahoma City. Maybe Brisbane should move athletics to the MCG or Accor. It's time to get more creative with the budget for these games.

Gold Coast is an obvious choice. We've already shown an athletics track fits in the ground (doesn't fit into the Gabba in current configuration) and temp seating brings it up to 40k as it was during the commonwealth games. Minimal spending and 45 mins south of QSAC, not too bad.

Then put $600M into Suncorp to bring it up to 70k with a new western stand and filling the corners in for opening and closing ceremonies plus soccer. Money will have to be spent on Suncorp anyway so may as well use this opportunity.

Put $400M into modernising the Gabba as a 35k stadium (sustainable size for the footprint the Gabba has to work with) which is more than enough for cricket and Fitzroy). Again, the Gabba is going to need money spent on it anyway so may as well use this opportunity.

Spend $500m on a new 30k rectangular venue at Perry Park, Ballymore, Showgrounds or Redcliffe for Rugby 7's and Olympic Soccer.

Brisbane Olympics then leaves a legacy for NRL, NRLW, AFL, Cricket, Soccer and Union.

Brisbane has a 70k Suncorp for events like NRL GF's, Magic Rd, Origin, Concerts, big NRL derbies, Wallabies, Socceroos, Matildas.

A modern, state of the art oval for cricket and fumbling.

A much needed mid sized rectangular venue for Reds, Roar, some Dolphins games, smaller Wallabies tests, NRLW Origins and Finals games and magic round overflow once we hit 20 teams.

1.5m spent to actually set the city's stadium infrastructure up for the next 30 years.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

yes, or there about.
40k is a joke and not seen for over a hundred years.

Being that Perth is not a non Olympic city, how about you stay out of this and leave it to us as we are an Olympic city