Future NRL Stadiums

[Perth Red]

Actually, that part of the Parramatta light rail will be scraped (hopefully) in favour of the Sydney West Metro.

One of the downsides of the clubs refusing the NRL stadium strategy as part of the new agreement will be continued poor stadium choices for games.

Ideally each week you would see a Sydney block buster on a Friday night at sfs
Double header at ANZ on Sundays
Full members of clubs incvolved given access to these games

Then western Sydney stadium used as home ground for 3 or 4 teams

 

[dangerousdave]

One of the downsides of the clubs refusing the NRL stadium strategy as part of the new agreement will be continued poor stadium choices for games.

Ideally each week you would see a Sydney block buster on a Friday night at sfs
Double header at ANZ on Sundays
Full members of clubs incvolved given access to these games

Then western Sydney stadium used as home ground for 3 or 4 teams

Actually, the clubs didn't refuse the stadia strategy. The Stadia Stategy was a strategic planning document full of fluff and no actual outcomes other than a broadly defined policy of centralisation.

The clubs were on board with this.

Then, last year an implementation report by the weasel John Brogden came out and it became clear that the whole purpose of the stadia strategy was so the state liberals could funnel money from the public coffers to their friends at the SCG trust. It was corruption of the highest order and the clubs called them out on it. Then weasel #2, Stuart Ayers, threatened to pull the funding all together because the clubs were being uncooperative. The clubs called his bluff and weasel #3, Mike Baird, sensing a poo storm in a teacup, removed stadia strategy implementation from weasel #2's portfolio and made a rushed decision on funding allocation based on an arbitrary 75 game commitment from NRL clubs to play in VenuesNSW stadia.

While I think that the eventual outcome was better than the 800mil to 1 billion, 55k-65k seater at Moore Park, it's still a damn shame that the government never engaged in a full review of our options.

My kingdom for a 30-35k stadium at Sydnenham to host Souths, Canterbury and half the Dragons. Parra, half the Tigers and 2 x Panthers games out there. And a big Sydney blockbuster at ANZ every Sunday.

We can but dream.

 

[Von Hipper]

Actually, the clubs didn't refuse the stadia strategy. The Stadia Stategy was a strategic planning document full of fluff and no actual outcomes other than a broadly defined policy of centralisation.

The clubs were on board with this.

Then, last year an implementation report by the weasel John Brogden came out and it became clear that the whole purpose of the stadia strategy was so the state liberals could funnel money from the public coffers to their friends at the SCG trust. It was corruption of the highest order and the clubs called them out on it. Then weasel #2, Stuart Ayers, threatened to pull the funding all together because the clubs were being uncooperative. The clubs called his bluff and weasel #3, Mike Baird, sensing a poo storm in a teacup, removed stadia strategy implementation from weasel #2's portfolio and made a rushed decision on funding allocation based on an arbitrary 75 game commitment from NRL clubs to play in VenuesNSW stadia.

While I think that the eventual outcome was better than the 800mil to 1 billion, 55k-65k seater at Moore Park, it's still a damn shame that the government never engaged in a full review of our options.

My kingdom for a 30-35k stadium at Sydnenham to host Souths, Canterbury and half the Dragons. Parra, half the Tigers and 2 x Panthers games out there. And a big Sydney blockbuster at ANZ every Sunday.

We can but dream.

There was that, yes, but I think he is referring to the clubs not siging the MOU as well, and any eventualy ability for perspective on game planning from the ARLC which is critical now.

And as an extension of that all, he is (like most people are) hoping for some semblance of rationaility in stadia (without grossly affecting clubs) such as the ARLC stepping into the void [but at least they stopped the rot, and remember Smith picked the winning horse in the game, except by the end of it the government changed the rules, which was a great thing nonetheless]...

Personally I too hope the ARLC steps in via the liscenses; its a great policy to have with a national competition, done in consultation, but flexible enough to limit sydney stadia options.

That second stadia would be awesome, and in the plan they said there may be another one in future years, so hopefully.

 

[Perth Red]

Correct, there remained in the agreement that NRL wanted its authority to dictate a right game right stadium strategy. Clubs have refused this.

 

[LeagueXIII]

All Sydney clubs should have decent 20-25,000 stadiums similar to the MLS stadiums in the US

 

[Perth Red]

And I should have a Ferrari by now, life rarely turns out how it should lol.

 

[Suitman]

All Sydney clubs should have decent 20-25,000 stadiums similar to the MLS stadiums in the US

That would be perfect. The MLS stadiums aren't large in fact. They are the perfect size. 20-30 000.
But they are all in one city teams.
We don't have the population, nor the govt support. to back up that type of infrastructure expenditure.
Nor do OUR clubs invest in this.
It's as simple as that.

 

[Canard]

That would be perfect. The MLS stadiums aren't large in fact. They are the perfect size. 20-30 000.
But they are all in one city teams.
We don't have the population, nor the govt support. to back up that type of infrastructure expenditure.
Nor do OUR clubs invest in this.
It's as simple as that.

Are they all taxpayer funded like most of the NFL stadiums?

 

[Suitman]

Are they all taxpayer funded like most of the NFL stadiums?

No. There is quite an amount of private investment in these stadiums.

 

[dangerousdave]

Correct, there remained in the agreement that NRL wanted its authority to dictate a right game right stadium strategy. Clubs have refused this.

Ahh, gotcha.

I thought you were talking about the NSW Stadia Strategy not Right Game Right Venue.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Actually, that part of the Parramatta light rail will be scraped (hopefully) in favour of the Sydney West Metro.

Interesting , that's even better then.

Olympic park is only going to get easier & easier to get to , will be great once it's a quality rectangular field.

 

[siv]

That would be perfect. The MLS stadiums aren't large in fact. They are the perfect size. 20-30 000.
But they are all in one city teams.
We don't have the population, nor the govt support. to back up that type of infrastructure expenditure.
Nor do OUR clubs invest in this.
It's as simple as that.

The need for 25k minimum capacity venues is very important for ongoing growth

How we achieve this is another issue

 

[dangerousdave]

Interesting , that's even better then.

Olympic park is only going to get easier & easier to get to , will be great once it's a quality rectangular field.

Yeah, it will be brilliant alright. It's really just finally the realisation of the post-Olympic vision for Olympic Park. Basically, the development for the Olympics was meant to be a catalyst for urban growth along that corridor.

In a way, Sydney failed in this because of the ambitious and untested nature of such a project (London did it much better 12 years later). After the Olympic hype died down, funding for further infrastructure was hard to come by and the area was never going to boom with mass transit provided only on a spur line that is only viable to run on event days.

A new line from Maroubra to Parra is an absolute game-changer. Not just for the game day experience but for Sydney in general.

In the meantime , ANZ will remain in it's own little urban isolation chamber. Shit to get to. Shit game day experience. Etc.

But the new development, and finally the proper delivery of the infrastructure befitting the major venue of a major world city, offers a light at the end of the tunnel to get very excited about.

 

[Suitman]

Olympic Park is going to go gangbusters in the next 10 years.

 

[siv]

Olympic Park is going to go gangbusters in the next 10 years.

So when will transport access from the north improve ??

Sorry until Strathfield and Central are serviced by a regular train service from Olympic Park nothing changes

It is easier to walk 45 min from Rhodes than catch a train

 

[Suitman]

So when will transport access from the north improve ??

Sorry until Strathfield and Central are serviced by a regular train service from Olympic Park nothing changes

It is easier to walk 45 min from Rhodes than catch a train

Even easier to walk 25 minutes from Concord West.

 

[siv]

Even easier to walk 25 minutes from Concord West.

Not when express trains dont stop at those locations

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

I thought the SFS was only going to get the remaining scraps for a refurbishment?

If they've got 1.6 bill to spend then after completing West Sydney and Homebush they should have at least $400-500 mill to play with. Pretty decent coin I would've thought, unless they're planning not to spend the full amount.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

All Sydney clubs should have decent 20-25,000 stadiums similar to the MLS stadiums in the US

That would be f*cking terrible...

Even if, by some miracle, you convince some idiot to part with the $2billion needed to build these, the transport to all of these places would still be abysmal. Thats the problem with "Suburban" stadiums. You are literally in a suburb!! These places arent designed for 30k people to come and go in an afternoon on top of the regular traffic.

Rather than 9 shitty stadiums, make 2 or 3 well placed grounds the best that they can be (including transport to and from...). Also, centralised grounds would make it much easier to bring in neutral fans, when its a stadium/area they know and are comfortable with...

 

[forby]

It seems obvious from all this that nobody lives west of Parramatta!