Future NRL Stadiums

[Goddo]

Anyone know if Parra will get an upgrade? I remember they were pushing for a second corporate tier at one end 2 years ago but didn't get any funding.

Edit: Is it still in the pipeline/club plans, or is it dead? The reason I ask is I saw this
http://www.parramattasun.com.au/news/local/news/general/venues-under-one-authority/2322553.aspx

Venues under one authority

11 Oct, 2011

PARRAMATTA Stadium is set to be overseen by a new state authority to be known as Venues NSW.


The authority would unite under one banner the Parramatta Stadium Trust, which manages the stadium, with existing bodies like Illawarra Venues Authority and the Hunter Region Sporting Venues.

The state government hopes the body will boost opportunities to secure major sporting events.

The stadium would join others, including WIN Stadium in Wollongong and Ausgrid Stadium in Newcastle, as part of Venues NSW.

NSW Minister for Sport and Recreation Graham Annesley said the move would mark a new era for Parramatta's biggest sporting venue.

"Venues NSW will be better placed to take advantage of new opportunities in sport and entertainment by co-ordinating the venue operations in western Sydney, Hunter and Illawarra," Mr Annesley said.

The legislation has been introduced into Parliament but, if passed, there is no set date or timeframe for when the authority would start operating.

A spokesman for the minister said it would be up and running by the end of the government's term.

The Parramatta Trust has created a draft master plan for the home of the Eels in the year of its 25th birthday.
The plan includes increasing the capacity of the venue to more than 30,000 people, adding rooms and gymnasiums for hire and upgrading the grandstands.

 

[Perth Red]

They'd prob have more success if they could convince another club to move in with them. In fact it is tailor made for the NRL to buythe ground and invest money in bringing it up to 35K modern stadium with 2-3 clubs playing out of it, rename it NRL stadium or something neutral.

 

[smithie]

They'd prob have more success if they could convince another club to move in with them. In fact it is tailor made for the NRL to buythe ground and invest money in bringing it up to 35K modern stadium with 2-3 clubs playing out of it, rename it NRL stadium or something neutral.

Ultimately this is where the NRL is heading with all of the Sydney clubs playing out of 2 or 3 stadiums.

 

[Goddo]

Ultimately this is where the NRL is heading with all of the Sydney clubs playing out of 2 or 3 stadiums.

I don't think so.

Manly can't really move to the SFS as its to hard for the fans to get to. Gosford maybe if the Bears don't get in. I think in the long term if they don't get a new stadium a relocation out of Sydney is a possibility.

Cronulla is the same - no good if at SFS/ANZ. Has to be in the shire. St George are set for the next 20 years with the recent stadium upgrades.

Chooks at SFS, maybe Souths back there too. Dogs will be at ANZ, part time at Belmore maybe.

Parra will get some form of upgrade at Parra Stadium. No big stadium at Blacktown so Penrith wont be moving either.

Wests - probably the only team I can see moving more games to a bigger ground. ANZ is probably the better location for Wests, but SFS is the better stadium.

There would have to be a new stadium of around 35k in either blacktown, liverpool, north Sydney or near the Georges River to see any club move. And even then it would have to have a favourable tenancy agreement to get sides to shift.

 

[Perth Red]

Manly-Gosford (sorry Bears)
Sths, St's, Roosters - SFS (20k suburban ground is not going to be ebough for St's over 20 years)
Dogs, Eels, Tigers - NRL stadium,Parramatta (35k modernised parramatta stadium owned by NRL and clubs pay % of gate receipts for usage)
Penrith can stay where they are, crowds not seemingly going to test their capacity for a long time
Sharks - Adelaide

Sydney sorted!

 

[Green Machine]

Anyone know if Parra will get an upgrade? I remember they were pushing for a second corporate tier at one end 2 years ago but didn't get any funding.

Edit: Is it still in the pipeline/club plans, or is it dead? The reason I ask is I saw this
http://www.parramattasun.com.au/news/local/news/general/venues-under-one-authority/2322553.aspx

The previous state government put funding aside for the construction of a southern stand. I think they were after equal funding from the commonwealth:
Page 10:

http://www.parramattastadium.com.au/about-us/Annual Report 2008.pdf

 

[smithie]

Manly-Gosford (sorry Bears)
Sths, St's, Roosters - SFS (20k suburban ground is not going to be ebough for St's over 20 years)
Dogs, Eels, Tigers - NRL stadium,Parramatta (35k modernised parramatta stadium owned by NRL and clubs pay % of gate receipts for usage)
Penrith can stay where they are, crowds not seemingly going to test their capacity for a long time
Sharks - Adelaide

Sydney sorted!

That's pretty close to what I was thinking.

Wellington is probably a better fit for the Sharks now as a second NZ team is inevitable within the next ten years.

Eventually there will probably need to be a merger between two of the western Sydney clubs to continue to be viable in the national competition into the future.

 

[seanoff]

They'd prob have more success if they could convince another club to move in with them. In fact it is tailor made for the NRL to buythe ground and invest money in bringing it up to 35K modern stadium with 2-3 clubs playing out of it, rename it NRL stadium or something neutral.

AMEN.

SFS, Parra and ANZ should be the default syd stadiums.

Parra and SFS perfect for NRL Need ANZ for the size.

Jesus wept i just looked up the stats. Combined SFS and Parra were used 25 times in 2011. The two best purpose built rectangular stadiums in syd were used less than once a week combined.

 

[Yosemite Sam]

No thanks. I don't think many supporters would want to share their stadium with anybody. Sydney is too tribal.

Leave it the way it is, upgrade the stadiums we have. Simple.

 

[smithie]

No thanks. I don't think many supporters would want to share their stadium with anybody. Sydney is too tribal.

Leave it the way it is, upgrade the stadiums we have. Simple.

It's not financially viable for the state and/or federal government to continue to redevelop suburban grounds to a national standard when they are only used by one tenant and for only half the year.

 

[bobmar28]

They'd prob have more success if they could convince another club to move in with them. In fact it is tailor made for the NRL to buythe ground and invest money in bringing it up to 35K modern stadium with 2-3 clubs playing out of it, rename it NRL stadium or something neutral.

It has one problem. Lack of parking/distance from Parramatta station. A 40k stadium at Blacktown could serve the Panthers and Eels.

 

[Panfas]

Manly-Gosford (sorry Bears)
Sths, St's, Roosters - SFS (20k suburban ground is not going to be ebough for St's over 20 years)
Dogs, Eels, Tigers - NRL stadium,Parramatta (35k modernised parramatta stadium owned by NRL and clubs pay % of gate receipts for usage)
Penrith can stay where they are, crowds not seemingly going to test their capacity for a long time
Sharks - Adelaide

Sydney sorted!

I like this. However, IMO something like this could actually work. Each Sydney team has no more than 10 home ground games with 2 traveling games to either outside area or to a bigger ground. Tigers and Dragons excepted for obvious reasons. Each home ground to have min 25k capacity (some upgrades required), and each traveling ground (Darwin etc) to have min 18k capcity and be broadcast standard.

Sydney teams
Manly - 10 Brooky (with upgrade) + 2 Bluetounge v Tigpies & Knights
Souths - 10 SFS + 2 WA (even after Reds come in) v Dragons & Broncos
Roosters - 10 SFS + 2 Wellington v Sharks & Cowboys
St George - Gong 6, Kog 5, SFS 1 v Roosters.
Tigpies - ANZ 6, C'town 4, Leichhardt 2
Parra - 10 Parra, 2 ANZ v Dogs & Tigpies
Dogs - 10 ANZ, 1 Belmore (when fit for NRL games, if at all), 1 Adel v Sharks. If no Belmore, than 2 Adel.
Cronulla - 8 Toyota, 4 Adel
Penrith - 10 Penrith, 1 Bathurst, 1 Port Macquarie (get them NRL ready)

Non Sydney teams
Melbourne - 11 AAMI, 1 Adelaide v Sharks
Canberra - 10 Canberra, 1 Albury, 1 Wagga (get them ready)
Warriors, 11 Auckland, 1 Wellington v Roosters
Knights, 12 Newcastle
Cowboys, 11 T'ville, 1 Cairns (get it ready)
Gold Coast 11 Skilled, 1 Darwin
Brisbane, 12 Suncorp

Expansion teams
Reds - 10 NIB, 2 Joondalup (upgrade required)
Brisbane 2 - 12 Suncorp

Cronulla play in Adel 6 times in a year while still playing 8 games in Sydney. Surely the shire fans would be happy with that.

The ongoing games in regional areas will not only increase tourism and $$$, but also provide better RL and sporting facilities

 

[Red Bear]

Henson Park is getting an upgrade

http://anthonyalbanese.com.au/launch-of-upgrade-of-henson-park-home-of-the-newtown-jets

The $920,000 in funding has come from the Gillard Labor Government’s Community Infrastructure Grants program. The proposed works include:

• Improvements to the grandstand building including replacement of the roofing, waterproofing, improved handrails and repainting
• Reconstruction and resurfacing of the grandstand forecourt to provide an accessible entry ramp to the building and repair damaged pavements
• Refurbishment of the public toilets and sports canteen in the tower building (adjacent to the grandstand) and refurbishment of the canteen in the scoreboard building
• Installation of an electronic scoreboard to replace the existing manual scoreboard

Bit sad the scoreboard is changing to electronic, manual sort of suits the place, but good to see

 

[Cheesie-the-Pirate]

New stadium debate: CBD v Belconnen
BY NOEL TOWELL, CHIEF ASSEMBLY REPORTER
01 Dec, 2011 04:00 AM
The ACT Government is looking at building a football stadium by the shores of Lake Burley Griffin's West Basin next to Civic as a long-term replacement for the ageing Canberra Stadium.

Sports Minister Andrew Barr has told fellow politicians that officials are investigating a CBD football arena to be co-located with a new convention centre at West Basin that would host the city's rugby code teams as well as other sports.

The idea of building in Civic is an alternative to a rebuild of Belconnen's Canberra Stadium, which is thought to be no more than 10 years away from obsolescence.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/new...bate-cbd-v-belconnen/2377359.aspx?storypage=0

 

[beave]

I'm no architect, but I always thought the old Bruce stadium was alright. My only gripe with it is the western side, the lower bowl's gradient is far too shallow, the head in front of you is not much lower than eye height.


Does anyone know why it would considered obsolete in 10 years??

 

[Raiderdave]

hmmmm

interesting
but I hope they make it a purpose built " rectangle " stadium
like Skilled
maybe with a roof , they'd need a new car park to go with it ... & a big one too as Canberra is a driving city ... long distances deter people taking public transport

as long as they keep AFL off it ... & it would be a goer ;-)

 

[TheRam]

As long as it is rectangle and not multi purpose(NO AFL) and with 100% covered seating.

 

[Goddo]

Agree with above, it has to be a football stadium - they have a Union and League team, and may have an A-League team in the future.

Also, it needs a decent roof - Canberra can be aweful on a cold wet winter night. Maybe a toned down "national stadium" is needed in the capital. Something around 35k with the best facilities possible. Turn the old Canberra stadium back into a cricket ground.

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

What the hell? Canberra Stadium was completely rebuilt for the 2000 Olympics and remains one of the most modern grounds in the NRL. Yeah, some of the design decisions were rubbish, but it hardly needs to be rebuilt.

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

maybe with a roof , they'd need a new car park to go with it ... & a big one too as Canberra is a driving city ... long distances deter people taking public transport

if it was in civic it would be better for public transport. main bus routes all head through the cbd.

i would love for this to happen. 35-40k...under roof. catering to the raiders, Brumbies, an A League team and national games. Manuka for GWS and cricket.

Bruce probably

geez it would be good to see a Kangaroos game in the nations capital.


however, i thought there were strict rules of what could be built around the lake given the national capital authorities continued push to keep things "within the vision of burley griffin"or whoever decides on that.
there was a stink over building in the parlimentary triangle over something a few years ago.

no doubt some greeny or ainslie resident will whinge about this though. especially if its taxpayer funded (id be fine with it)

make this happen canberra.